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Rooo sez BISH PLZ
07/07/09

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Warning. Yellow light. TMI. Overload. Approaching. Warning. Warning. Red light.

Too late.

Forget the waaahmbulance. Better call ROOOOXanne
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Penny
07/07/09

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This is somewhat off-topic, but I was reminded of an old film (the name escapes me, as does the plot) where Selma Blair is having sex with a Black actor and he tells her to call him the n-word. Does this sound familiar to anyone? I remember finding it really interesting, the weird power dynamic.
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Lymed
07/07/09

@Penny: Was that a deleted scene from Cruel Intensions?
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Rooo sez BISH PLZ
07/07/09

@Penny: *sigh*

Cruel Intentions.

"interesting"

*is slightly ill*
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Penny
07/07/09

@Rooo sez BISH PLZ: Um, no.

Why would that make you ill? You don't even know what I am talking about.
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Rooo sez BISH PLZ
07/07/09

@Penny: You want to bet?

No. Never mind.

I really don't have it for this today.
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labeled
07/07/09

@Rooo sez BISH PLZ: This conversation is weird. In an interesting way. Because it sounds a similarity in both movies - and Selma Blair was in both.

Rooo, don't you think it's possible that the scene you are remembering (not from Storytelling, but Cruel Intentions) wasn't "interesting" but the one from Storytelling was?
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bangers
07/07/09

@Rooo sez BISH PLZ: i've seen cruel intentions too many times to count. he definitely does not ask selma blair to call him the n word. that would take away from more of the interesting layers of his character!
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Leucadia
07/07/09

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All I need to know about male prostitutes, I learned from watching My Own Private Idaho.

1. they are hot

2. they has a sad

3. their lives eerily parallel Henry IV.
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Lymed
07/07/09

@Leucadia: You forgot, some of them are narcoleptic.
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Penny
07/07/09

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They are consenting adults, they can do whatever they want. I think a lot of fantasies people have would seem "disturbing" to some.
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morninggloria
07/07/09

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I would not have sex with a male prostitute, because I only have sex with virgins.
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special_boots
07/07/09

@morninggloria: Where do you find them all?
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LolaQuinn is full of beans
07/07/09

@special_boots: Comic-Con.
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morninggloria
07/07/09

@special_boots: Freshman dorms of local colleges and universities.
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andBegorrah
07/07/09

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Okay, but wait, I'm confused. Who climbs whose fire escape to save whom from what?
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JinxyMcDeath
07/07/09

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I'm a firm believer that unless you're into beastiality, pedophilia, or fecalphilia...your closed-door lifestyle is fine with me.

Also, the whole prostitution thing sounds so much worse than it is...it's charging people to do something that you usually do for free. It's so odd to me.

And I think male prostitution for straight women is a great idea. Heidi Fleiss was trying to make it happen...I wonder why it didn't...I think there was red-tape or something. Anyways, most women want to get laid, but they don't want to meet some stranger in a bar because it's scary and dangerous. Men don't really have this problem since they're rarely kidnapped, raped, and killed by women they meet in bars and go home with...so, it's actually quite safe if done properly in a brothel setting ala "The Bunny Ranch."
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wooden_shoes
07/07/09

@JinxyMcDeath: "fecalphilia" is actually called "coprophilia" and personally I don't think it should be added into that list you have there: bestiality (also known as zoophilia) and pedophilia are both done with non-consenting partners. Coprophilia can and often is done with consenting partners.
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labeled
07/07/09

@JinxyMcDeath: I'm curious - assuming fecalphilia is what I think it is (whomever is ready to tell me to google it.. um, no - stupid google searches will be the end of my marriage someday, I swear)... why is that a linecrosser for you, on par with sex with children or animals?
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JinxyMcDeath
07/07/09

@wooden_shoes: @labeled: It's not in the same category as animal or child rape...as I agree it's consensual. But I do find it be incredibly deviant. It's my opinion.
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labeled
07/07/09

@JinxyMcDeath: I'm not getting on you, you're obviously entitled to your opinions. I was just curious if there was some larger public health thing which colored that opinion.

FWIW, the argument could probably be made that some bestiality is consensual as well, rendering it only "deviant," as well.

(More thoughts I'd never have thought, much less said "out loud," brought to you by Jezebel.
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Lymed
07/07/09

@JinxyMcDeath: Unfortunately, prostitution is often accompanied by abuse. If it were legal and there were regulations protecting the prostitutes it would be one thing, but as it is, I don't think many prostitutes would get beaten by their pimp or their john for free.
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JinxyMcDeath
07/07/09

@Lymed: I'm only talking about legal prostitution...and the example I used was of a legal regulated brothel in Nevada.
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Lymed
07/07/09

@JinxyMcDeath: Thanks for clarifying. Although, I don't think legal prostitution in Nevada has all the protections I'd like to have. Perhaps part of it is that there is a lot of illegal prostitution in Las Vegas.
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miggery sow
07/07/09

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The white women are pretending to be the clients' girlfriends or wives ... so, basically, the white man is just hiring two people, a white woman and a black man, to have sex in front of him?
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nolongerinacubiclestillawhore
07/07/09

@miggery sow: Yeah I find that odd(er).
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Laulau
07/07/09

@miggery sow: Exactly my response. Perhaps I'm terribly innocent, but ... people are really paying good money simply to watch in person what I'm sure they could get much cheaper as porn? I'm willing to believe that I'm just totally naive, but that surprised me big time.
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Lymed
07/07/09

@Laulau: I've been told men are visual, and I guess live it more visually appealing than on a screen
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ngoandy
07/07/09

@Laulau: It is the same as listening to an MP3 versus going to see a show live.
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Laulau
07/07/09

@ngoandy: Ha, that's actually a great analogy for me because I don't really like concerts, but am aware other people do.
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sybann
07/07/09

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Last bit? Too weird. And I have to say that if I thought I could handle it, it would be much easier to hire someone - however my mind wouldn't let me. I would be too disturbed by the thought of what this person has had to do with others, not to mention what the life would be doing to his psyche.
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labeled
07/08/09

@sybann: You're such a chick. Next thing you know you'll be crying at cellphone commercials or something.
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morninggloria
07/07/09

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That last anecdote makes my kink of hiring prostitutes to bake fancy pastries in front of me seem innocuous.
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CurtCole
07/07/09

@morninggloria:

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CurtCole
07/07/09

@CurtCole: ...insert shitty comment about frosting here...
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Lymed
07/07/09

@morninggloria: You hire black prostitutes to make vanilla pastries, don't you?!?
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rmric0.wedding.photographer.and.manny
07/07/09

@morninggloria: Most delicious fetish ever.
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Rare Affinity
07/07/09

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I will never understand the male sex drive. I remember one potential guy who was into being a cuckold. Not my thing at all. Likewise, when in annoyance at seeing ads from men offering to "play rape" women, I placed an ad to" "play castrate" men. I was stunned by the number of genuine replies I had.
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thePrototype
07/07/09

@Rare Affinity: I think you would be amazed by the number of women that have non-vanilla fantasies/kinks as well.

Most of the women I know are into dominance of some level (play rape if you will), and almost every woman I know (that I discuss sexuality with) loves having intercourse with other partners in front of their husbands.
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taxbaby
07/07/09

@thePrototype: ... I think there's a self-selection issue there. I doubt your experiences could be generalized to the population at large.
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Ms. Ville Valo
07/07/09

@taxbaby: I hope so. None of the women I know would want to do that or would want their boyfriends/husbands to do that in front of them.
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thePrototype
07/07/09

@Ms. Ville Valo: From my experience there is a big difference between wanting to do something and admitting they want to do something, even though the end result appears the same.
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Rare Affinity
07/07/09

@thePrototype: @amowls: @thePrototype: I am not surprised that some women might have rape fantasises. However in the context of the adverts, I wondered whether fantasy and reality could collide in a horrific way. The guy wanted to remain completely anonymous and meet up with a woman. Have sex with her forcibly, apparently against her will and leave. The mind boggles at to what could happen if the woman decided at any stage that she did not want to go head with the fantasy and the man assumed she was just "play acting" resistance.
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Tmoney02
07/07/09

@Rare Affinity: Didn't tracie (under her old nickname)write an article a long time ago about how she posted a rape fantasy ad and went through with it under her old nickname. I did a few searches but couldn't come up with it. It was very interesting if someone can find it.

So yes its not just men that post these ads, but women looking as well. Just curious if your annoyance extend to them as well?

Also one last thing:
"Have sex with her forcibly, apparently against her will and leave."

It wouldn't be against her will she sought it out and assumingly is consenting the entire time. (As the other poster mentioned safe words and some trust would be needed should she change her mind.) They are only playing out a fantasy that it is not consenting.
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LadyFabulous
07/07/09

@Tmoney02: I remember reading that... I wonder if I could find it again...
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
07/07/09

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You know, I read a really weird Something Awful article about this fantasy. And by "article" I mean that a bunch of people went to a forum and took screencaps of the weirdest stuff.

The black man/white wife thing? REALLY popular over there.
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nex0s
07/07/09

@Zombie MissSkittles is not your kind of lady: Not just over there but over here too. I find it incredibly disturbing as a black woman. There's a lot of women too who like the idea of fucking a black man - but would NEVER date one or GOD FORBID MARRY one! The stereotype of the "black buck" is straight out of slavery.
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Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
07/07/09

@nex0s: Or Othello.
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