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    Image of Tart of Darkness Tart of Darkness
    11/23/08

    In reply to The Way We Were: Life Magazine Photos Of Women In The 1940s
    I want hats. Hats and gloves. The only thing I mind about the '60's hippie era is the overthrow of hats and gloves for every day wear as a necessity for women.
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    Image of Speeble Speeble
    11/22/08

    In reply to The Way We Were: Life Magazine Photos Of Women In The 1940s
    The Dead Letter office kind of disturbed me I have to say. Not because of the people in it but because of the purpose of the office in the first place. It's where they'd write letters to the families of service people telling the families their kin died in combat. I'm such a freaking Debbie Downer.
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    Image of Dodai Dodai
    11/22/08

    @Speeble: no no no! it's for undeliverable mail. the letters you're talking about would be written by the military, not the post office.
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    Image of Hana Maru Hana Maru
    11/22/08

    In reply to The Way We Were: Life Magazine Photos Of Women In The 1940s
    I am really enjoying this series. I can't pick a favorite and I'm just going to stare at them all.
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    Image of ceejeemcbeegee is not here ceejeemcbeegee is not here
    11/22/08

    In reply to The Way We Were: Life Magazine Photos Of Women In The 1940s
    And the Black women are... where, exactly?
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    Image of Tart of Darkness Tart of Darkness
    11/23/08

    @ceejeemcbeegee: On the right of the picture in the second row of desks from the aisle. The first woman (next to the pillar) and the woman behind her are black.
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    Image of ceejeemcbeegee is not here ceejeemcbeegee is not here
    11/22/08

    In reply to The Way We Were: Life Magazine Photos Of Women In The 1940s
    Hmmm... someone's missing....
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    Image of Seriously Seriously
    11/21/08

    In reply to The Way We Were: Life Magazine Photos Of Women In The 1940s
    Does the girl 2nd from the left, top row, look just like Dita Von Teese?


    Or, maybe I am just obsessed with her.

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    11/21/08

    @Seriously: Sorry, meant in the Hawaii pic.


    I have had some wine.

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    Image of Jesscooks Jesscooks
    11/21/08

    In reply to The Way We Were: Life Magazine Photos Of Women In The 1940s
    I think you can see in the Rainbow Club picture why Hawaii is the only state that could produce Barack. It's 1945, vast tracts of the country are segregated. In the south, even the U.S.O.'s were divided into white (nice) and black (shabby). But here, asians, blacks, whites - everyone is dancing and having a good time. Hawaii doesn't have to 'get over it' when it comes to racial issues, because they never had it. Kinda makes me want to move (I say when it's rainy and Oregon outside).


    Yay!

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    Image of Tart of Darkness Tart of Darkness
    11/23/08

    @Jesscooks: Actually that is not really true. For one example, consider the Massie rape/murder case in Hawaii which is described in (excruciating) detail in the book Honor Killing: How the Infamous "Massie Affair" Transformed Hawai'i There was always plenty of prejudice to go around. Another period piece which captures a white view of Hawaii is From Here to Eternity.


    In addition there were Japanese interment camps in Hawaii, a fact that the US government denied at least until the 1980's. I know that because a friend of mine's grandfather-in-law was in one.


    Yes, there were some areas where various races did mingle and much more so than in the contiguous U.S. but racial identity and limitations were still in place.

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    Image of Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
    11/21/08

    In reply to The Way We Were: Life Magazine Photos Of Women In The 1940s
    The photo of women cycling in France does look cool, but given that Europe was at war, I'm not so sure how 'awesome' it truly was...
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    Image of lisas lisas
    11/21/08

    In reply to The Way We Were: Life Magazine Photos Of Women In The 1940s
    Ok, crew cuts for women, "alternate view"? That's totally Judy Garland on the left right?


    I love the lady truck drivers. LOVE the plaid blazer. REQUIRE the plaid blazer.

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    Image of whats_in_a_name whats_in_a_name
    11/21/08

    @lisas: I loved the truck drivers as well, and if that's the kind of truck i think it is I'd very much like to own it.
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    Image of TheCatlady TheCatlady
    11/21/08

    In reply to The Way We Were: Life Magazine Photos Of Women In The 1940s
    What's cool about the photo with the people dancing is you have a black man and white woman dancing together in public. What are the odds of that happening in the 1940's???
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    Image of Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
    11/21/08

    @TheCatlady: And Asian?
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    Image of Tart of Darkness Tart of Darkness
    11/23/08

    @TheCatlady: I actually think that the black man is dancing with a very light-skinned black woman and I believe the Asian man is dancing with an Asian woman judging by her height and hair color and style.


    On the other hand, Maxine Hong Kingston documents that Chinese men were allowed into the dime-a-dance places in New York City and danced with "blonde demonesses".


    Hawaii is a nice place and definitely has a wonderfully ethnically mixed population, but to oversimplify the suffering of its people of color over the time from the advent of the missionaries based on one photograph from the 1940's is sad to me.


    For example, the original culture of ethnic Hawaiians has barely been preserved in a form truer than almost parody. Ethnic Hawaiians that refused to leave areas that whites wanted for agriculture were rounded up and sent to leper colonies at Molokai, thus guaranteeing their death.


    Chinese and Japanese came as emigrant laborers and worked hard to make it into the fabric of the greater society.


    And again in the picture this is one USO club in a war zone. At the time Honolulu off the military bases was more like today's Bangkok where native Hawaiians and those of mixed race worked in the sex industry to make enough money to buy the inflated necessaries of life.


    You would never see an openly gay man OR woman at that "Rainbow Club".


    Today's Hawai'i is a product of its past just like any other place. Could Barack Obama have come from a different state? I certainly hope so. He came to national prominence in the very heartland of America and for that I think we should all be thankful.

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    Image of PinkSoxHat PinkSoxHat
    11/21/08

    In reply to The Way We Were: Life Magazine Photos Of Women In The 1940s
    I would not say no to those protesting women. They mean serious business.


    Also, if anyone has sewing talent and can make me that polka-dot dress, I will be your best friend forever.

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    Image of The HZA. The HZA.
    11/22/08

    @PinkSoxHat: I am pretty sure you can get a pattern similiar to that still. Like a McCalls pattern. I have one, I just havent made the dress because I dont have room to layout the fabric. If I find the pattern number I will PM you.
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    Image of electriclarrylandus electriclarrylandus
    11/21/08

    In reply to The Way We Were: Life Magazine Photos Of Women In The 1940s
    Wow. I was totally born in the wrong decade. Those women look fabulous.
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    Image of The HZA. The HZA.
    11/22/08

    @electriclarrylandus: I can never decide what decade I should have been born it. I always change my mind. Lately I am thinking the 40s.
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    Image of Raspberry Swirly Raspberry Swirly
    11/21/08

    In reply to The Way We Were: Life Magazine Photos Of Women In The 1940s
    Can I just say that I adore bridge lady's fluffy hat? Seriously, where can I sign up to get one?
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    Image of jocelyn_1 jocelyn_1
    11/21/08

    @Raspberry Swirl the Waitress:


    I'm like, how could one seriously pin that on one's head and walk out of the house with a straight face? And they were all the rage!

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    Image of Raspberry Swirly Raspberry Swirly
    11/21/08

    @jocelyn_1: Oh, I would do it with a smile on my face. But I have very little shame about hats.
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    11/21/08

    In reply to The Way We Were: Life Magazine Photos Of Women In The 1940s
    I have always had tremendous sympathy for the Brits after WWII. Unlike the States, things didn't bounce back for a decade. There was still food rationing and all kinds of shortages for years. Plus they were bombed, which we weren't.
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    Image of aubonpam aubonpam
    11/21/08

    @brendastarlet: and yet they still managed to set up universal health care!
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    Image of JLady JLady
    11/22/08

    @brendastarlet: My grandmother was a war bride and my grampa (after returning to Canada) used to sent her silk stockings in resealed Jello packets because for the six months she had to wait before going to Canada to meet him, there was a major shortage of things in London. I've always thought that was kind of sweet.
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    Image of Fizzy77 Fizzy77
    11/22/08

    @JLady: We were bombed, it was called... Pearl harbor.
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    Image of JLady JLady
    11/22/08

    @Fizzy77: I didn't think my post had anything to do with whether or not the U.S. was bombed?
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    Image of wordinedgewise wordinedgewise
    11/21/08

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    methinks these need a LOL treatment!!
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