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Elle O. Elle
07/31/09

In reply to Mayim Bialik Did Not Exactly Adore Her WNTW Outfit
While it sucks that they didn't listen to her requests, what's she going to do if an acting job requires her to wear something that she can't? I'm sure in most cases it would be easy enough to adjust an outfit for her, but not every time.
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Breamworthy
07/31/09

@Elle O. Elle: Well, the article said that she wore sleeveless stuff for the show and she just made it clear that she would wear a cardigan or something overtop if she left the studio. So it sounds like she is okay with wearing something for filming that she wouldn't wear in real life.
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amowls
07/31/09

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I feel like pants are more conservative than skirts. A skirt you can just lift up and do the nasty any time you want, pants are a little trickier.
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cuteasabutton
07/31/09

@amowls: That's what I was thinking!
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veronykah
07/31/09

@amowls: I have always thought that too...you'd think TRUE conservatives would want women to wear pants. No funny business on the fly.
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J.D.Regent
07/31/09

@amowls: car sex, for example, is barely worth the effort in pants. but i guess, no cars on shabbos anyway?
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liz.lemonade
07/31/09

@amowls: I was just about to ask that, but you've put it much better than I would have.

I watched the episode when it aired. She was apparently fine with knee-length skirts. I will admit that I know very little about that particular "Conservadox" Jewish custom, so I'm asking this out of genuine, non-snarky curiosity! Why do they favor skirts over slacks? Unless the skirt is ankle-length, then skirts show off far more of the leg (along with the potential to show even more on a windy day.) Or is it because skirts are traditionally considered more "feminine"?
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juniper
07/31/09

@liz.lemonade: Hey, I know the answer to something!

One reason Orthodox Jewish women don't wear pants is kli gever, the biblical prohibition for a women to dress like a man. (There is an opposite prohibition, too!) Once upon a time, skirts were women's clothing only and pants were men's clothing only. Obviously this isn't the case anymore, but it has stuck.

Another reason is modesty. Now, while it doesn't make sense when you think about hikin' it up and doin' it in your Saab, I promise that most Orthodox women wouldn't consider that, and I'm sure most Orthodox men wouldn't either. You won't find Orthodox Jewish women in miniskirts, or skirts above the knee, or in tight skirts. Consider another example of modesty: married women cover their heads, and only their husbands can see their hair in all its glory.

Finally, there is the issue of the community norm. Most Orthodox Jewish women wear exclusively skirts. It's a communal religion, and the Orthodox communities stick together. It's absolutely normal and expected, just as any other community clothing option makes sense.
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t-yo3
07/31/09

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To someone who watched the show with Mayim, were the final outfits things that didn't fit in with her application of tzniut: sleeveless clothes and short skirts and that? Did S&C appear to push these on her or anything? Or were her requests accommodated, even though the qualifications and explanations were left on the cutting room floor? I think I need a little explanation of how the show actually went down to understand properly what she's saying...
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J.D.Regent
07/31/09

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It's really too bad they didn't honor her request; they are usually so good at helping people work within their own constraints and it would have been really interesting to see a cool, flattering, modest wardrobe. I wonder if she is willing to make exceptions for costumes. Come to think of it Blossom's wardrobe was fairly modest.
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NefariousNewt
07/31/09

@J.D.Regent: Her hats seemed to be her biggest accessory.
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cuteasabutton
07/31/09

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" />Did anyone else covet her hats and outfits like me?
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NefariousNewt
07/31/09

@cuteasabutton: I totally forgot that Joey Lawrence was on that show! Where has he disappeared to?
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swashbuckling
07/31/09

@cuteasabutton: I stole a hat like the one in the bottom right corner. It was from Target.
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cuteasabutton
07/31/09

@swashbuckling: Oooohhh Tar-jay was great for stuff like that!
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cuteasabutton
07/31/09

" />@NefariousNewt:
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Plum-Pie
07/31/09

@NefariousNewt: Musicals, ABC Family and the internet! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Lawrence
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NefariousNewt
07/31/09

@Plum-Pie: I do remember his guest shot on CSI:NY as a serial killer, but thought that was just a kind of fluky thing.
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BabyJane
07/31/09

@cuteasabutton: He turned into Yul Brynner in The King and I? WHOA!
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cuteasabutton
07/31/09

@BabyJane: HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
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J.D.Regent
07/31/09

@cuteasabutton:In 7th grade my best friend MADE me a tie skirt like Blossom's. I wore it with black fishnets over maroon tights and my sister's 20 hole Docs. I am STILL proud of that motherfucking outfit. I credit it with convincing the best dressed, coolest girl in 9th grade (bassist in a band, published a zine, super tall and Korean in my lily white town) to be my math tutor; she totally complimented me on it.

NERD ALERT!
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cuteasabutton
07/31/09

@J.D.Regent: Fellow Nerd - PRESENT! I lived in a very small town and tried my best to find Blossom-esque outfits. When I did manage to pull one together, I was looked like I was an alien.
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YourScreenplaySucks
07/31/09

@cuteasabutton: I'm sure Blossom's style had a powerful place in preteen Carrie Bradshaw's subconscious.
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J.D.Regent
07/31/09

@cuteasabutton:i had one ill-advised day where I got up the nerve to rock a purple tutu from childhood over leggings. but then when i stepped off the bus i was suddenly filled with a panic and deep dread and realized how naked I felt in what was essentially just tights; it was like a nightmare where you realize you have shown up naked to school and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it all day long. nothing to cover up with. then i forgot my gym uniform and was forced to play co-ed volleyball in it. I have flashbacks every time I see a picture of Lindsay Lohan.
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J.D.Regent
07/31/09

@Your Screenplay Sucks: Wow, that is a great call.
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kerry
07/31/09

@J.D.Regent: Holy crap, I made my own tie skirt, too! My mom was super impressed with my can-do attitude. I, too, had 20-hole docs to wear it with.
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J.D.Regent
07/31/09

@kerry: I too am impressed with your can-do attitude! I probably would have befriended you in 7th grade and convinced you to make me one first!
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Plum-Pie
07/31/09

In reply to Mayim Bialik Did Not Exactly Adore Her WNTW Outfit
She is far too clever, objective etc for reality TV. (Also, I cannot be the only Brit smirking that 'Tablet' is a Jewish mag in the US, whereas 'The Tablet' is a Catholic mag in the UK.)
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cuteasabutton
07/31/09

@Plum-Pie: OMG I forgot about that! I'm so chuckling at that right now.
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NefariousNewt
07/31/09

In reply to Mayim Bialik Did Not Exactly Adore Her WNTW Outfit
She looks the same. I swear. It's like she never "grew up."

Well, Clinton and Stacey are good, and I'm sure they did their level best to be accommodating, but then, knowing the usual tenor of the show, I'm not sure why she'd really want to be on it.
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cuteasabutton
07/31/09

@NefariousNewt: That's what I was thinking. From all the photos I've seen of her it doesn't make sense. I've always got the impression that she was one of those people really comfortable in her skin and the way she represents herself so would find something like this unnecessary.
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NefariousNewt
07/31/09

@cuteasabutton: Though I can see, how, if she was serious about getting back into acting, her wardrobe would be a serious detriment.
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precipice
07/31/09

@NefariousNewt: I remember watching this show, they did show her saying that she doesn't wear pants. But there wasn't an explanation for that, I don't think.

I don't think Clinton and Stacy believe that wearing clothes that fit, and are sexy, means being scantily clad, either. I definitely didn't think Mayim's outfits at the end of the show were scantily clad, or even particularly sexy! What they were, though, was better-fitting.

I wonder why she went on the show as well.
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LoSpaz
07/31/09

@NefariousNewt: On the show, as in the article, she did mention making a transition back into acting after years in school and having two kids. I can see why that would be a good time to upgrade one's wardrobe.

I watched the show and she was a really good sport. I've seen people buckle under much milder criticism from Stacy and Clinton.

I do understand why she might feel slighted that they cut the bits where she talked about being Jewish and why she dresses the way she does - and I think it would have made the show a bit more three-dimensional - but again, she seems to have a sense of humor about it. I didn't get the impression from the show or the article that she was truly unhappy with anything.
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NefariousNewt
07/31/09

@precipice: Well, it's certainly a good way to get a wardrobe update, and perhaps put in some face time as well?
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NefariousNewt
07/31/09

@LoSpaz: I think it was inevitable that they would water down the parts about her being Jewish. The show just isn't like that -- they are more concerned that the person feel better about themselves at the end.
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precipice
07/31/09

@NefariousNewt: The funny part to me is that she paid for the new wardrobe that she's complaining about!
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Breamworthy
07/31/09

@precipice: I wonder why she went on the show as well

Hella publicity when she's trying to restart her acting career, plus $5000 worth of clothing for free... I think I understand why she went on the show.
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GirlyQ is a manta ray
07/20/09

In reply to Stella Loves Critters; Diane Von Furstenberg Is A Swinger
Where I live, the taxidermy is not ironic. I'll leave you all to contemplate that horror.

Now I'll just have to wonder if they are going to airbrush Bambi and give other little deer unrealistic expectations.
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argle-bargle? or fou-ferraw?
07/20/09

@girlyQ: God, taxidermy... It's not ironic where I am either (weekend warrior hunter types abound) and I've got to admit that I'm kind of fascinated by it. It's just so weird to want preserved dead animals in your house in 'action poses'!
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GirlyQ is a manta ray
07/20/09

@argle-bargle? or fou-ferraw?: One of these days I'm going to take it to the next ridiculous extreme. Like a dead squirrel rock band or something. Sitting on my coffee table.
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gherkinfiend
07/20/09

@girlyQ: I got outbid on Ebay for a taxidermy squirrel sat at a revolving drum kit. I had to settle for the little guy in my picture instead...
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argle-bargle? or fou-ferraw?
07/20/09

@gherkinfiend: You have no idea how happy I am to know that you OWN that squirrel in your avatar!
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argle-bargle? or fou-ferraw?
07/20/09

@girlyQ: If I ever become insanely rich, I want an entire family of white-tailed deer in my living room, drinking from a little pond. You know, to make guests uncomfortable!
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BAngieB
07/20/09

In reply to Stella Loves Critters; Diane Von Furstenberg Is A Swinger
Now if they would just get rid of Carmindy, things would be great at What Not to Wear.
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FattyCatty
07/20/09

@Dr. BAngieB: I no, I love Carmindy! That woman works magic. I am thrilled, on the other hand, to see Nick go. All he ever did was chop everyone's hair too short.
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PrairieGirl
07/20/09

In reply to Stella Loves Critters; Diane Von Furstenberg Is A Swinger
Nooo, don't go Nick. I'll miss your Manchester accent and overly product-laden curly hair.

Also: Will someone just put Crocs out of their misery already? They need to do the decent thing and head off to Switzerland and an assisted suicide clinic. I volunteer to do the assisting. It's the right decision for everybody.
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Gretchen is a new kitten mom!
07/20/09

@PrairieGirl: I've been plotting murder on Crocs since they hit the market. They are great for children, I'll admit, but other than that - NO.

I was shocked to find they are very popular in southern Germany. Relief came when I learned they are used for garden shoes. I was puzzled in the meantime - I had not seen one adult in them on the street, yet they were available in every store.
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LucilleMcGillicuddy
07/20/09

In reply to Stella Loves Critters; Diane Von Furstenberg Is A Swinger
WNTW item translation - Nick wanted a raise.
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graciousplum
07/20/09

@LucilleMcGillicuddy: I wasn't a fan of how he always threatened a necessity to chop off "a LOT of hair". The bob is not for everyone, dude...
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BatCat!
07/20/09

@LucilleMcGillicuddy: Or maybe they finally wised up to the fact that 90% of his haircuts sucked. If I were ever ambushed and asked to participate in an episode of WNTW, Nick is the only part of the experience that would have given me pause.
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Grim Reaper of the Forest
07/20/09

@BatCat!: I hate about half of what he does.
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sympathyforthebasementcat
07/20/09

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But it would look so much better if she were wearing Thumper as a coat.
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marshmallory
07/20/09

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So we've got the green alligators, but will any of the Birkins be made of long-neck geese, humpty-back camels or chimpanzees?
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BabyJane
07/20/09

@marshmallory: Yes, it also comes in cats and rats and elephants, but sure as you're born
You're never gonna see no unicorns Birkins.
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Grim Reaper of the Forest
07/20/09

@BabyJane: The unicorns went extinct in 1000 BC because of a unicorn-skin handbag craze.
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BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
07/20/09

In reply to Stella Loves Critters; Diane Von Furstenberg Is A Swinger
Who do you suppose I should wear if I want to attract cartoon mice and birds to make me a ball gown in order to attract a prince?
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femaledwightschrute
07/20/09

@BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs....: I'm thinking dirtied-up, androgynous stuff like Costume National would work. It'll look like you did your time sweeping chimneys,doing errands and uglying up for your evil stepmother.
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Ailatan
07/20/09

@BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs....: Eau de Aniston.... it reeks of lonely desperation. Also useful, Single by Jessica Simpson, it comes with a miniature Papa Joe, so beware!
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sportz.star
07/20/09

@BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs....: It's not what you wear - you need ugly stepsisters, a day job of working in fireplaces, and despite all of that, perfectly clear skin.
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
07/20/09

In reply to Stella Loves Critters; Diane Von Furstenberg Is A Swinger
Salamino, who taught second grade, was fired after her relationship with Walter, by whom she has a child, was discovered.

Wait, why was SHE fired?
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colormeroutine
07/20/09

@Zombie Ms. Skittles: I was wondering the same thing. Unless maybe it has something to do with the age difference, was he a student when it started? If he's 20 now that could be possible
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milominderbinder
07/20/09

@Zombie Ms. Skittles: they got together when he was a 17 year old student so she lost her job because he was still a minor.
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
07/20/09

@milominderbinder: Ohhhh gotcha. Thanks.
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milominderbinder
07/20/09

@Zombie Ms. Skittles: Yeah, i feel bad for the kid because the dad is in jail the mom probably has a difficult time getting work after a scandal like that and even if she does work then who takes care of the baby? Sad stuff.
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