@fabulousrobots: Ugh, that is horrible! If I ever get engaged, I am thinking that I want to keep it a secret just so I can avoid fools and their judgey weight related commentary.
@greengrey (raidersofthelostSTAR): For my wedding, I want to gain as much weight as possible so I can take up more of people's visual fields so there will be more attention on me!
@fabulousrobots: 0_0 Not. Cool. I will never, ever, EVER forgive members of my husband's family for slapping food out of my hand at a picnic the day before my wedding because "You have to fit into a dress tomorrow." Because, apparently, a turkey burger at a BBQ will make me gain so much weight I won't be able to wear the dress that I had been fitted for the day before.
@fabulousrobots: "Well, my boobs don't get bulbous until I gain ten to fifteen pounds, but--and this might be too ambitious, I don't know--I'm thinking about aiming for 25 for maximum Church cleavage."
I'm pretty sure the 6 to 9 pounds more is compared to singles over time. People gain weight as they get older and married people might gain slightly more than their single counterparts.
I'm sure they made adjustments normalizing the impact of honeymoons, pre-wedding crash diets, etc. Surely it's impossible that these geniuses just collected and graphed the pretty numbers without considering biases.
I read about that study somewhere else, but it just said people who cohabitate .... didn't break it down into legal relationship status. So, even though it's still kind of a DUHHHH study, it wasn't quite so condescending.
I think it has more to do with the fact that women who spend more time with their husbands tend to eat like their husbands do, and if your husband eats anything like my boyfriend . . . well, it's no surprise I've gained 15 pounds since meeting him.
I think they've documented a similar trend on women who move in with their boyfriends. People tend to eat the way people around them eat, and most men can eat more without gaining than women can.
Can we talk about how vile that "Bulging Brides" show is? I actually like weight-loss shows, generally, but that one does everything wrong, both from a human standpoint and a dieting standpoint. It's all about humiliating the bride-to-be, and they basically make her do the least fun kinds of exercise and convince her that eating healthy has to be this giant painful sacrifice because she's been such an awful person by, you know, eating those candy bars at work.
@nora charles: I gained ten pounds when I first started dating my boyfriend because we did nothing but eat grilled hamburgers, chicken, steaks, brats every day. It was delicious, but not exactly the healthiest lifestyle. Now, instead of trying to keep up with him and his insatiable appetite for meat, I exercise regularly and eat "me" sized portions. I feel much better too.
@nora charles: I had a similar experience. I've lost a LOT of weight since moving out/breaking up with the ex. More than that, he had the tendency to ask if I was going to finish my meal while I was still eating! (This led to me eating like I was in prison - fast and protectively!)
However, I'd also be interested to see what birth control methods are being employed by the couples in question.
@nora charles: I have always LOST weight when I have been in a relationship and/or lived with someone. Way more small portions and actual sit-down meals and way fewer drinking-lots-of-wine and eating fried calamari with girlfriends nights. Plus, not as much "grazing" throughout the day.
@DinaRonson : Elizabeth Cady Stanton: exactly, I just don't.get.it. If s/he feel for you, s/he likes you as is. More than that, crash diets don't work and are dangerous. Healthy brides and grooms, FTW
@DinaRonson : Elizabeth Cady Stanton: I have never understood why losing weight is part of getting married for some women. Your guy wanted to marry you at whatever your weight is, and I am pretty sure your family and friends know what you look like so...what is the point? Buy a flattering dress and go say your vows.
@DinaRonson : Elizabeth Cady Stanton: I don't think brides lose weight for their groom so much as they lose it to look "good" in pictures or in front of all their guests.
@LaFemme: I generally don't think its about the guy or the friends-- its about you. You want to fit into some mental image you've had of yourself as ideal, and as long as its not unhealthy for you to lose the weight, I don't see why its a bad thing, if its something you truly want.
I wonder if "singles" means "folks who aren't paired off," or simply "folks who haven't legally married." Because I know I've gained weight every time I've moved in with a guy. (Which is a sample size of "twice," admittedly.) And friends of mine, when they first moved in with a partner, reported the same. Particularly female friends under 30 moving in with male partners under 30, because in almost every case the guys' metabolisms can handle a lot more crap and the girls started eating more and more of it without noticing at first...
When Mr. P and I started dating, everything we did was excessive: sex, food, sex and more food. Within two years, we were both chubby Romans, lounging around in our free-fitting clothing, still stuffing our faces and pulling each other to the floor in a romantic (albeit more slow-moving) frenzy. Fast-forward 20 years and now we're eating dry chicken breasts and popping fish oil caplets, but the spark is still there! I guess my point is, "for better or for worse" implies "through thick and thin" in my book. *wink*
@Mama Penguino: Yay! I have easily gained 15-20 pounds in two and a half years since I started dating my boyfriend. Entire weekends spent in bed eating delivery can do that to you! I wouldn't change it for anything.
@Buenavista: ha i watched an episode when i was in canada recently and it was horrid, every episode there is tears about being a fatty - its like this is the best day of your life ladies! I'm sure hubby wouldn't have proposed if he thought you some kind of big fatty fatso, most of them don't even look that extremely overweight.
@nothanks: Yes, I hate that show, I've never seen one where I thought the woman actually looked unhealthy - and half of it is supposed to be just to fit into the dress. BUY A BIGGER SIZE! Problem solved.
@lijakaca: Because wedding dresses are sized differently than normal clothes, I know women who have absolutely refused to buy the size that fits in favor of the size that shares a number with their favorite pants. Which means dieting and working out to lose two-three sizes by wedding day. Ugh.
also...don't most married couples end up having more children down the line than non married couples? that adds on weight.
married couples have to shuffle two schedules...so when getting home at 5 or 7 it's not easy to make a fast meal that's not prepackaged...unless i'm just lazy and you can actually cook a roast beef at 7 and eat sometime by 7:30 when hungry.
@monkeydance: You really can easily cook dinner most nights of the week if you put a little thought into your shopping. I usually spend less than 30 mins cooking a night. Personally, I just find most pre-packaged food kind of gross, so I don't buy it but cooking really doesn't have to be a big to do.
@monkeydance: Its hard to cook a roast beef in half an hour, but there are plenty of quick, easy meal options-- broiled fish, pan fried chicken, ham steak, salads, and veggies all take under a half an hour to cook. Plus, there's the whole Rachel Ray revolution, though I'm not really a fan of her, so I don't know how realistic her 30-minute meals are.
@clevernamehere: Some recipes would be appreciated. I HATE cooking and my poor son is getting sick of hotdogs, peanut butter sandwiches, chicken nuggets and whatever is on the hotwarmer at walmart. Help me.
@Cole23: There are a million places to look. Epicurious has a whole section of fast meals. Pasta and stirfry can be done in one pan (or two if you're boiling the water). Kids are a little tricker, but one of my easiest meals is cut up tomatoes with salt and pepper + torn arugula/spinach tossed with whole wheat pasta. In the summer, I add the raw veggies to pasta with a little balsamic and olive oil. In the winter, I saute some garlic, add the tomatoes, followed by the arugula and the pasta. The whole thing takes me maybe 15 mins and is loosely based on recipes I found on smittenkitchen (hot version) and in Jamie Oliver's cookbook (cold version).
@inabook: Racheal Ray isn't bad, her cookbooks were the first ones I read, but a lot of her meals require you to be a pretty fast cook in 30 mins. Plus, a lot of the food is really heavy. But she has a lot of sandwiches with portobella mushrooms that are super fast and I really never would have thought of on my own.
@greengrey (raidersofthelostSTAR): Have you missed the memo? Single women are all magazine editors these days. Welcome to 2004, my friend, I think you'll like it here.
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Does it say something about me that the first thing I thought of was Xander and Anya snarfing junk food right before their wedding?
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1) pre-wedding crash dieting provides a too-low baseline.
2) cooking for two, perhaps less healthily than for one.
3) pregnancy and associated weight gain
4) lack of time for exercise associated with family life and children (seriously, I just got a DOG and I have no time, I can't imagine a baby)
5) that cake is gorge. What, I'm hungry!
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Also, it'd be super awesome if Jez could have found and linked to the study.
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Also off topic: I hate fondant. Don't invite me to your birthday or wedding for whipped cream or fondant. I will hate you forever.
Buttercream now, buttercream forever!
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I think they've documented a similar trend on women who move in with their boyfriends. People tend to eat the way people around them eat, and most men can eat more without gaining than women can.
Can we talk about how vile that "Bulging Brides" show is? I actually like weight-loss shows, generally, but that one does everything wrong, both from a human standpoint and a dieting standpoint. It's all about humiliating the bride-to-be, and they basically make her do the least fun kinds of exercise and convince her that eating healthy has to be this giant painful sacrifice because she's been such an awful person by, you know, eating those candy bars at work.
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Every bride I've known (even the ones who had a 2 month window ring to aisle) went into turbo training mode.
He fell in love with you, for you. Not because it was possibly your dream to be your smallest size ever in your wedding photos.
I now risk detaching my retina from over rolling of the eyeballs.
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married couples have to shuffle two schedules...so when getting home at 5 or 7 it's not easy to make a fast meal that's not prepackaged...unless i'm just lazy and you can actually cook a roast beef at 7 and eat sometime by 7:30 when hungry.
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If you're single don't you still have two schedules?
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AMIRITE, Boyz?!
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I suggest preparing the souls with just a squeeze of lemon, It really cuts the calories and they're still delicious.
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