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J.D.Regent
05/11/09

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So when is Megan McCain gonna come out against Don't Ask Don't Tell? What, daddy wouldn't like it?
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ellaesther
05/11/09

@J.D.Regent: Probably about the same time that Cheney's gay daughter does.

Man, I would not want to be the daughter of one of these men for all the tea in China. Not even for all the chocolate in Switzerland.
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hfree
05/11/09

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Speaking of military spending, did anyone see Lara Logan's 60 Minutes report on the pilotless planes? (or I guess they have pilots, it's just that the pilots are in Nevada and the planes are in Afghanistan) It was frightening.
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J.D.Regent
05/11/09

@hfree: so fucking scary. The use of unmanned weapons really implicates legal doctrines on proportionality of force in war...if our people are facing no danger and we are taking out "their" civilians as well as armed combatants, how can this shit be legal?
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bluebears
05/11/09

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I wish she had roasted the press corps a bit more. I also wish she had just gone balls out and ripped all the repubs a new one in the most vicious way imaginably but I understand why that wouldn't have been appropriate. sigh.
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bluebears
05/11/09

@bluebears: uh...imaginable.
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Sister Toldja
05/11/09

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I wish Wanda had went in on Meagan too. That would have been hilarious. "Girl, being pretty, hip and curvy aint gonna trick nobody in to joining your wack ass party."-but like, a million times funnier, as I am not a comedian. She shoulda got Michael Steele's GOP lawn jockey ass too.
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rainy_day
05/11/09

@Sister Toldja: Did you see the part where Obama made fun of Michael Steele? aMAZing!
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Sister Toldja
05/11/09

@rainy_day: That was heeeeelarious!
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J.D.Regent
05/11/09

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Why.did.John.Edwards.run????
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bluebears
05/11/09

@J.D.Regent: I'm still, STILL! so fucking pissed about that.
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J.D.Regent
05/11/09

@bluebears: I just don't get it. If he knew he would have to pull his campaign at some point...and how did E.E. go along with it? I usually don't give a SHIT about poltician's private lives but this whole thing really shows how out of control the Edwards ego is.
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bluebears
05/11/09

@J.D.Regent: yes, I don't want to judge her and who knows what she knew and when she knew it, but honestly if she knew she should have put her foot down as well and refused to continue with the farce. I have no doubt that the McCain camp would have saved this whole thing up for an October surprise and we'd be looking at a very different White House.
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J.D.Regent
05/11/09

@bluebears: can you fucking imagine? The Palins would look like the fucking Cleavers in comparison.
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laureltreedaphne
05/11/09

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I do have to say that I think wishing death on someone with a dissenting opinion and then having our president laugh about it makes me uncomfortable. Rush Limbaugh is a douche, but I think that crosses a line. It's one thing to make a joke like that at her own comedy show, another at the White House Correspondents Dinner. And, I think it damages the bi-partisanship that Obama is trying to build.

I don't know. It left a bad taste in my mouth.
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AtomiClash: humanitarian misanthrope
05/11/09

@trakkie: The video froze for me 10 minutes in, but Rush Limbaugh, in the absence of any real Republican leadership, has become the de facto voice of the party. That is unacceptable and horrifying. Not that wishing death on him is okay, but he is not what the republican party is or should be, and yet he seems to be placed prominently at the forefront of their agenda-setting. Not okay. Besides, Obama probably laughed because he was as uncomfortable as you were. It was a comedy routine, so...
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Ipomoea
05/11/09

@trakkie: At first I was a little weirded out by it, then I was like, FUCK IT AND FUCK HIM.

Where was the outrage from Republicans when Rush said "I hope America fails?" The man gleefully admitted to hoping that American fails (which to me means lost jobs, increased poverty, more dead soldiers, etc) so that he could say he was right about Obama.

He mocked Michael J. Fox's Parkinson's symptoms and said he was faking them. I've had family members die of Parkinson's. So you know what? Fuck you, Rush. And fuck you, Republicans, for sitting back and letting your leadership fellate this loudmouth asshole. There are good Republicans, but this fanatic loyalty to this hateful blowhard is why people are leaving.
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Ginmar Rienne
05/11/09

@trakkie:

I think "I hope the President fails" deserves a more severe word than 'douche.' Rush Limbaugh made fun of Matthew J. Fox's illness nad called him a faker.
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Hiroine Protagonist
05/11/09

@Ginmar Rienne: Seriously. It's comedy, which makes me interpret it differently than just casual extemporaneous speech. The parallel between Rush saying he hopes Obama/America fails and Wanda's incredulous outrage hoping his kidneys fail isn't necessarily a personal feeling. It's a metaphorical comparison between two such sentiments to highlight the not-just-hypocritical but vicious statement about the country making it as shocking as wishing someone's kidneys to fail. The point is - it's incredible that someone would say that about his own country that he's claimed to love beyond reason.

Or, I am reading too much into it.
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ellaesther
05/11/09

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And wasn't the POTUS just the ultimate magical unicorn at the WHCD?

[www.c-span.org]

Dude, I know that about every other day I say "woe is me, I'm losing faith in his ability to turn this shit around!" -- but then I see stuff like this and cannot help loving him way more than is altogether healthy.

I love our President sooooo much!!!1!!
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TheJacqueline ValJean
05/11/09

@ellaesther: See, comments like this freak me out.

I want Obama to succeed as much as everybody else does, but the man is a politician. Healthy skepticism of our government is important, lest we let them lead us blindly down a worse path that we've already taken.
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stacyinbean
05/11/09

@TheJacqueline ValJean: Oh relax. After dealing with the shit we've put up with for the last eight years can we not enjoy these fucking first few months? Nobody is blindly following him around like a fucking zombie.
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ellaesther
05/11/09

@TheJacqueline ValJean: Oh honey, you clearly haven't read me much! I am skeptical. I just thought the President was very funny, and that made me happy. (Note the "1" in my series of exclamation points -- indication of an understanding that I was over the top. Promise!)
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ellaesther
05/11/09

@stacyinbean: Ok, I want you on my side, always.

@TheJacqueline ValJean: Not that there are sides! We're all cool!

But @stacyinbean: ? I want you on my side.
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bluebears
05/11/09

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I hope to GOD that this "promise to slow rate increases" is not going to replace actual health care reform for another 13 yrs.
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J.D.Regent
05/11/09

@bluebears: and what if we somehow magically manage to get a gov. plan passed? will they revoke these meager offerings? to me it looks like they are only doing what will make them marginally competitive against a gov. ins. plan. god willing they will have to fight for their lives.
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bluebears
05/11/09

@J.D.Regent: If we actually get a gov plan I look forward to the insurance companies collapsing. Although mo-glo is right, they'll probably then demand a government bailout.
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morninggloria
05/11/09

@J.D.Regent: What a lot of people forget is just how gigantic insurance companies are and how tied up in the rest of the economy they are. If a gigantic publicly traded insurance company fails, that's several more percentage points out of your 401(k), because most mutual funds own lots of insurance.

Not saying that I wouldn't be glad to see them and their oft-slimey lot crash and burn, but it would be a painful process for many more than just the insurance companies.
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TheGuvnah
05/11/09

@J.D.Regent: i'm just hoping they're not doing it as some back-room quid pro quo to get a public plan off the table.
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J.D.Regent
05/11/09

@TheGuvnah: I'm pretty sure they are. I just hope the Dems ignore them and do it anyway.
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danadevin85
05/11/09

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oh my god it was a f-cking roast

what do they think happens at these events?

if they think that was brutal

they need to take a look at the

those old roasts with Dean Martin and others

now those were rowdy

im so tired of them and weekly fake outrages

1. teleprompter

2.shaking hand with Hugo Chavez

3. gift giving
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onestrawplz
05/11/09

@danadevin85: To add to fake outrage list:

MustardGate '09. [www.facebook.com]
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onestrawplz
05/11/09

@onestrawplz: I have no idea why that linked through facebook, but if that doesn't work...

[www.huffingtonpost.com]
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Majrhoulihan
05/11/09

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If I ever saw Wanda Sykes in person, I would run up to her and kiss her full-on on the mouth. I just love her.
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ellaesther
05/11/09

@Majrhoulihan: ... and I'm sure that the police officers down at the station would enjoy hearing you tell the tale! "Hey, O'Leary, we got another Sykes kisser!"

(Yes, in this fantasy, the cop is Irish. I'm from Chicago).
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richcreamerybutter
05/11/09

@Majrhoulihan: I used to say that until I did see her in person. Instead I froze! It was one of the few times I've felt "starstruck."
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LisaMc
05/11/09

@richcreamerybutter: That happened to me with Patty Smith. I like to think I'm not affected by celebrity to that extent, but I was a deer in the headlights. If I ever meet Wanda, I'll desperately try to overcome this tendancy so I can tell her how great she is.
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Majrhoulihan
05/11/09

@LisaMc: Patty Smith sat in front of me when I graduated from college!
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baraqiel
05/11/09

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Dick Cheney: keep on digging that hole. Maybe one day you'll hit upside-down land where everyone listens to irrational demagogues instead of reasonable people! AKA, maybe the hole makes you time travel back 5 years! Just keep on trying, Dick!
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morninggloria
05/11/09

@baraqiel: At this point, I imagine him as a robot. Like, an actual robot.
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wtfox?!
05/11/09

@morninggloria: I imagine him as a demon vomited up from the underworld because the other malevolent spirits hated having him around.

His evil is ancient.
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ellaesther
05/11/09

@wtfox?!: Ooh, when you're hated by the other malevolent spirits, you're in really, really bad shape, man.

Which I suppose he is, and yet we still have to listen to him.
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baraqiel
05/11/09

@morninggloria: Oh, but what kind of robot? The evil HAL kind or the Bicentennial Man kind that knows he's not human but eventually learns to love?
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pupsnpies
05/11/09

@baraqiel: I don't understand why he keeps making appearances. Does he have a book to promote or are GOP members actually asking him to make these statements?

It seems like such a stupid strategy that could only be fueled by the need to stroke his massive ego. If that were the case, though, I'm sure there'd be a lot of big GOPers out there publicly chastising him. I don't know...I'm just so confused.
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morninggloria
05/11/09

@baraqiel: Sort of like the Tin Man possessed by Satan.
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baraqiel
05/11/09

@pupsnpies: I'm pretty sure he's on the "reinvent the GOP committee" so, yes, he's being asked in some sense to say these things.
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ellaesther
05/11/09

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Ok, so George Will says that it would have been "a tragedy" if the philandering John Edwards had won the Democratic nomination.

Because in the history of politics, politicians have so consistently kept it in their pants -- our moral fiber would have been torn to fucking SHREDS! As the scales fell from our EYES! And the country would have gone up in FLAMES!

Which is not to say that it might well have been a tragedy for the Democratic Party and the entire nation, as the hypocrites in the GOP might have been able to actually win the general election as a result.

But come ON. George Will opining on the tragedy of a philandering candidate? God I hate stupid shit.
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ellaesther
05/11/09

@ellaesther: I meant: "Which is not to say that it didn't have the potential to be" -- I am far too tired to be trying to construct such complicated sentences.
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sarah.of.a.lesser.god (aka Mrs. BrutallyHonestHobbit)
05/11/09

@ellaesther: It pains me that I enjoy his baseball writing, because he is such a dick otherwise.
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bluebears
05/11/09

@sarah.of.a.lesser.god (aka Mrs. BrutallyHonestHobbit): ohhh. an ex of mine used to say the same thing all the time.
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baraqiel
05/11/09

@ellaesther: Um, George Will thinks it's a tragedy that people wear blue jeans so much nowadays. I think he gets an official "not to be listened to" stamp now.
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ellaesther
05/11/09

@sarah.of.a.lesser.god (aka Mrs. BrutallyHonestHobbit): I know!! Me too!! I come from Cubs-loving stock, and for a long time, I kind of thought of him as "that writer who tried so hard to keep lights out of Wrigley, why are my friends so mad at him?" And then I started really reading his other stuff.

And I also think, in all honesty, that he's gotten more extreme since 2000. Or more honest? Hard to tell with some of these folks.
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sarah.of.a.lesser.god (aka Mrs. BrutallyHonestHobbit)
05/11/09

@bluebears: @ellaesther: father.of.a.lesser.god, who is about as liberal a soul as you will ever meet (and a former politics professor to boot), has all of his baseball writings. But he rants and raves about the man's political/social writings.
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J.D.Regent
05/11/09

@sarah.of.a.lesser.god (aka Mrs. BrutallyHonestHobbit): that's because holding on to tradition for tradition's sake makes sense for things like baseball. for things like blue jeans and who should be president, not as much.
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morninggloria
05/11/09

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The American health care system sure is fucked. Insurance companies/drug manufacturers are really "from my cold, dead hands" about their astronomical profits, and so I fear the only way anything will actually change is if the system completely collapses.

Sort of like what's happening in banking right now.
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Santos L Halper
05/11/09

@morninggloria: It's not only the insurance and drug companies, it's also the American public itself preventing a change. You've got these pundits screaming "SOCIALISM" and "TAXES," which John Q. Public hears and parrots to the next guy and so on. Until the public can be convinced that universal healthcare can exist in a democratic society, big pharma will keep profiting and Americans will keep getting sicker.
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saintbernadette
05/11/09

@morninggloria: I have a feeling it will collapse. It has to, right?
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CurtCole
05/11/09

@morninggloria: Yeah, I work for a non-profit hospital. We don't deal with insurance companies at all. It is fascinating to see how efficiently things can be run when you can provide quality health services without worring if insurance companies will approve what you are doing; not to mention how cheap medicine is at cost.
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brinkswomanship
05/11/09

@morninggloria: I mean, there's only so long they can keep increasing the insurance premiums faster than the inflation rate before a kajillion % of your salary has to go to health care! That can't be sustained.
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J.D.Regent
05/11/09

@Santos L Halper: but I really think there are not enough regular voters against healthcare reform to stop it. The insurance companies on the other hand have both the power and the will to derail it. But I guess what did I expect. Industrial regulation has ALWAYS been written by the very industries involved.
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J.D.Regent
05/11/09

@CurtCole: oh, you mean being forced to negotiate with a giant, resource-sucking middle man who provides no essential services ISN'T more efficient than just providing health care to those who need it without discrimination? Hmmm. They didn't teach me THAT in public policy school.
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J.D.Regent
05/11/09

@saintbernadette: i think they will eke out a plan before it totally collapses. the plan itself of course will need to be reformed again in a few years, but who can afford foresight in these times?
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morninggloria
05/11/09

@J.D.Regent: There are a lot of very loud, whiney voters. If I've learned anything from these past several months, it's that right wingers beat left wingers at whining, hands down.
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J.D.Regent
05/11/09

@morninggloria: I agree they are loud and whiney and I think it makes them seem larger and more menacing than they are. Look at gay marriage -- a lot of times there is a silent moral majority on progressive issues but people get bullied into not speaking up or even voting against their conscience.
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SomeAuthorGirl
05/11/09

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I wish someone braver and better-connected than myself would grasp Dick Cheney by the shoulders and tell him flat out that he is a creepy irrelevant old fart of a war criminal.
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AtomiClash: humanitarian misanthrope
05/11/09

@SomeAuthorGirl: That's all you want to do? Impressive.
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hkcd
05/11/09

@AtomiClash is a ball-cutting cybersuccubus: Seriously. I'm not sure what would happen if my dad saw him on the street.

In related news, someone from my dad's office saw Donald Rumsfeld in the parking lot of a Costco and screamed at him.
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Jack_Burton
05/11/09

@SomeAuthorGirl: This thread is full of win!
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lalaland13
05/11/09

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Did they really plan to do that, or is this just a way for them to cover their asses after the fact?

I hope they would have done it, would have said, "Hey, this guy is cheating on his wife. Run awaaayy!" But I'm afraid they would have just stood quietly by.
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bluebears
05/11/09

@lalaland13: this is CYA big time.
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Santos L Halper
05/11/09

@lalaland13: Yeah, it's a little suspicious that they're claiming that they sabotaged the campaign conveniently right after all this cheating stuff came to light. I say ass-covery abounds.
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AtomiClash: humanitarian misanthrope
05/11/09

@lalaland13: How is it any of their business, anyway? Yes, the whole situation is scummy and horrible, but it has nothing to do with them (unless there was, indeed, questionable financial shenanigans). Who appointed Edwards' staffers the Morality Police? And why are they blabbering about it now?
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ellaesther
05/11/09

@AtomiClash is a ball-cutting cybersuccubus: One of the quotes was that they're "Democrats first," and Edwards staffers second -- I can see discovering such a fact, realizing that it meant that the Republicans would likely take the election, and doing what I could to stop the crazy train so that the Democrats would win. I don't have any real idea what their thought process was, but that one line gives me the impression it went something like this (if it wasn't, as has been suggested, CYA).
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lalaland13
05/11/09

@ellaesther: Yeah, they would kill one to save many from a McCain/Palin presidency. Oh god. Typing that made me throw up in my mouth a little.

I wish Johnny Boy had the sense to know the affair made running a bad idea, but, like many politicians, he has a bit of tunnel vision.
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HarpMadness
05/11/09

@lalaland13: Right -- I think that's what they meant. If he had been the nom and then the affair would have come out during the general election, it pretty much would have put McCain in the white house. I don't think Palin would have been in the mix because they wouldn't have needed to stir the pot or grandstand or whatever it was they were trying to do by picking her, but whomever it was would have been just as bad for the country. So, I take it that the aides are trying to say that they would have stopped Edwards from becoming the nom so it didn't come to that for that reason -- not because they thought they had to out him for moralistic reasons over the affair.
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