"Grybauskaite, who has a martial arts black belt and says her heroes include Margaret Thatcher and Winston Churchill, has pledged to pull the nation of 3.34 million 'out of the political and economic shadows.'"
Well, looking away from "martial arts black belt" which is about as clear as fog, let us focus on the AWESOME of this woman.
Wow she's so pretty! To be honest, I'd probably get dressed up to vote too. I voted in the election, and it was the first time I was old enough to vote and it was really a great feeling. And it's never been illegal or dangerous for me to do so, so I can completely see this being such a special occasion for some people.
@missnicolec: This is actually how Indian people dress everyday. It's not a special sari. Although there has been violence in the region, it has been legal for men and women to vote since independence. Also, a far greater percentage of Indians vote than Americans do. My impression when I was there is that people just do it. It's not the big deal to pat themselves on the back over like it is in the U.S.
I love how saris look and they seem like they would be incredibly comfortable and I want to wear them. To my Jezzies of Indian origin, how would you feel if you saw a random white girl on the street in a sari?
@Beets.Go.On: I see it as appropriation and it makes me uncomfortable. Here's why:
I was born and raised in America to Indian parents. I was teased and treated like a foreigner my whole childhood. Kids gathered around my lunchbox and said "EWW! What is that?" I answered "what does it mean when they wear the dot on their forehead?" about a hundred million times. I wanted more than anything to not be defined as the Indian girl, assumed to be related to every other Indian person.
If I wear Indian clothes in America, people treat me like a weird foreigner. They avoid me, treat me coldly because they think I'm an immigrant, stare, act like I don't speak English even after I've spoken, talk slowly and loudly, etc.
Meanwhile Indian stuff is cool for white people to try on. Bindis, saris, yoga, henna "tattoos" Hippies come up to me and want to talk to me about how they love samosas and how India is sooo spiritual. Vogue sends white models to India to pose in Indian inspired designs among exotic human props.
It doesn't make it okay if you gush about the beautiful colors or the comfortable material. It's like when white girls hold their arm next to mine and say they wish they could tan like that. It's an expression of privilege to be able to put on a sari one day and know you won't be treated differently.
@HanaMaru: I'm really sorry you had that experience. I'm not sure where you live, but where I am (the SF Bay Area/Silicon Valley) there is a huge Indian population and the cultures, food, fashion, music and faith traditions that originate in India are fairly normative. I moved away from where I grew up to get away from a culture wherein the sort of horrible treatment you suffered was/is okay.
Also, I like samosas. I'm not sure where that came from in your speech up there, but I do love Indian food and I have been practicing yoga since I was 12 years old. Indian food has way more delicious vegetarian options for me and yoga is central is to my spirituality. I'm sorry if that somehow makes me a bad person.
On Jezebel, I constantly feel like I have to apologize for being white and that I have to defend myself against being lumped into the same category as the people who hurt you and the editors of Vogue who made those abominable decisions in India. I'm sorry you went through what you did and I will remember your experiences. Thank you for being so honest and frank.
@Beets.Go.On: I would love you. Being open to and interested in different cultures is nothing to be worried about.
@HanaMaru: Poor thing ): I've never had a single experience like that. Where are you?
I still have my mehndi (henna) on from Bengali New Year, and random people have stopped to tell me how beautiful it is. When I wear Bengali clothing, people tell me how beautiful the embroidery is or how they love how it goes with my skin tone. And I see no problem in sharing the beauty, because it generally gets appreciated.
@Beets.Go.On: White people's love of Indian food is something they like to come up to me and talk about. It's one of the ways in which actual Indian people are othered by well-meaning white folks. Even if they think Indian stuff is awesome, I am primarily defined by my race to them. So that's why I put it in my "speech", or, as I call it, "answering your question"
I didn't call you a bad person and I don't expect you to apologize for how you were born, just like I'm not asking for any sort of sympathy medal for having dealt with xenophobia. I don't think you're rotten, I just think you're clueless as to how your white skin benefits you and what the baggage is when you wear a sari, versus when I do. It's clueless, just like the girls who hold their arms next to mine, and, yes, in the same category as the Vogue editor who wants to put an exotic touch on a white model(which I do consider merely clueless)
Since you feel that way though, why do you consider a Vogue story in India abominable, while you walking around in a sari is just putting on something pretty? If my answering your question with an explanation of why it makes me uncomfortable reads to you as a harsh wholesale condemnation, were yeses the only answer that would have been okay?
@HanaMaru: Like I said, I'm sorry for being born white and for the crap you had to deal with. It sucks that you have had to deal with so much hardship in your life as a result of your ethnicity and the ignorance of others. I admire your culture and I realize that you are more than your race. I am sorry you find that "clueless" or somehow disrespectful.
I'm sorry I upset/offended you. I can't apologize enough. Your culture is beautiful and I am sorry that for me to think so is offensive and somehow culturally insensitive. The culture into which I was born is vile and I truly wish I could be rid of the guilt inherent to my skin color. But I can't, and I'm sorry.
@Beets.Go.On: Enough with the maudlin nonpologies! Like I said, I don't blame you for being born white/expect sympathy for having dealt with xenophobia/ et cetera. I don't expect you to automatically know where I'm coming from; that's why I shared my perspective without any judgment of you. You lost your shit before I even said "clueless", which itself should hardly induce guilt. If you don't know something, you don't know it, and guilt isn't helpful, but listening is. I don't know about experiences outside my own and I wouldn't get offended if I was called clueless about them. I am clueless about them.
Clearly, you have no interest in actually listening and all you wanted were affirmations. Your original query wasn't even asked in good faith. What a waste of time.
@N i s t h a: they sure do. Now if you would please explain the misteries of keeping the dupatta in place on the head. I have one at home and I am a failure at this.
what's the trick: bobby pins, eyelash glue, superglue?
Seeing this post makes me think of my mother. She always says that she doesn't know why there is always this gasp of "surprise" from the West when things happen the way they are supposed to in the so-called "Third Wolrd." My country recently had elections--they were free, fair and incredibly close. They went to a run-off in which no one died. The loser conceded and urged peace, the winner assumed his position and preached bipartisanship. No blood was spilt. Not a single person was harmed. And the world was atwitter. Why does democracy become a beautiful thing when it is poor brown people doing it?
Dodai this isn't directed at you--i know there have been problems with voting in India and little spates of violence so that's probably where this is coming from but it made me want to ask a general question.
@rumpelshowsskin: Thank you! Women have been voting for a long time in India, as long as men have. They have much better representation than we do in America, and they have a press that actually calls out and criticizes politicians. They have more democracy than we do and some people here are all "aww, women finally vooootingggg!!!!!"
Pictures of people voting always make me feel happy and proud. The posts in November with all the pictures of people voting around the country made me teary.
Take me to India take me to India PLEASE SOMEONE TAKE ME TO INDIA.
Awesome semi-related story:
I had a professor when I did my abroad in London who was originally from New Zealand. He emigrated to England when he was a young man, in the 1960s. Back in those days there wasn't really affordable commuter airfare from/to New Zealand, so he flew to Australia, took a BOAT to India and then hitchiked, with his wife and all their stuff, through India, Pakistan, the Middle East and all of Europe until they got to France, where they took another boat to England.
@stoprobbers: I'LL TAKE YOU WITH ME. It's amazing there. I really want to go to Goa, which, I know is a tourist-y place, but seriously? the old European style homes in a tropic setting is divine. I went there before when I was young, and it was just so peaceful.
@N i s t h a: the daily border closing at Wagah (close to Amritsar) sounds all kinds of awesome. Rajasthan, Tamil Nadu, ... everything seems worth a trip, really.
I miss going to an actual polling station. It gave voting a sense of accomplishment. Now I just stick a stamp on the ballot and stick in with the bills.
@token_y_chromosome: I'm excited, because I'm going to be home for the CA special election in May, even though it's only for 6 ballot measures... Not being able to actually GO VOTE for Obama in November was disappointing, but my home county needs me more than LA, so absentee it is.
Wow. Either she got dressed up to vote (which would be an awesome thought) or that woman wears saris that gorgeous every day. Either way, lady, your outfit is delightful.
@baraqiel: 74th Street, in Jackson Heights, Queens, is known as 'Little India'.
The women who live, work, and shop there are always dressed GLORIOUSLY. There are Sari shops showcasing incredibly beautiful clothing. And the JEWELERY STORES! All that gorgeous gold Indian brides wear -- this is where they come to buy it. The cheapest thing I have seen in those stores was five thousand dollars. Everything encrusted with rubies and emeralds and sapphires.
It's a great day trip, complete with a Bollywood theater. Get some henna tattoos, call it a day.
@NewsBunny: Yes! nice to find an Indian mango devotee on Jez!
I have lots of family in India who own Mango farms and the crop has been shitty this year, I'm not too sure about other areas though. Here in England Mangoes have been far more expensive than in past years, so I don't know how much mango eating will be done this year ;(
@sabi: My friend saw Indian mangos for sale at an Indian grocery store for six dollars/lb! And this is fucking California where mangos are regularly shipped from Mexico.
@Rosaxe: There are hundreds of types of mangoes and the varieties exported from India tend to be different than the typical one you would see in grocery stores(usually imported from Mexico). Alphonso and Kesar mangoes are the best. Canned mango pulp from the Indian store is much better than mediocre fresh mangoes.
05/18/09
05/18/09
05/18/09
05/18/09
Well, looking away from "martial arts black belt" which is about as clear as fog, let us focus on the AWESOME of this woman.
05/18/09
05/18/09
05/18/09
04/23/09
04/23/09
04/23/09
04/23/09
04/23/09
Kidding.
04/23/09
04/23/09
I was born and raised in America to Indian parents. I was teased and treated like a foreigner my whole childhood. Kids gathered around my lunchbox and said "EWW! What is that?" I answered "what does it mean when they wear the dot on their forehead?" about a hundred million times. I wanted more than anything to not be defined as the Indian girl, assumed to be related to every other Indian person.
If I wear Indian clothes in America, people treat me like a weird foreigner. They avoid me, treat me coldly because they think I'm an immigrant, stare, act like I don't speak English even after I've spoken, talk slowly and loudly, etc.
Meanwhile Indian stuff is cool for white people to try on. Bindis, saris, yoga, henna "tattoos" Hippies come up to me and want to talk to me about how they love samosas and how India is sooo spiritual. Vogue sends white models to India to pose in Indian inspired designs among exotic human props.
It doesn't make it okay if you gush about the beautiful colors or the comfortable material. It's like when white girls hold their arm next to mine and say they wish they could tan like that. It's an expression of privilege to be able to put on a sari one day and know you won't be treated differently.
04/23/09
Also, I like samosas. I'm not sure where that came from in your speech up there, but I do love Indian food and I have been practicing yoga since I was 12 years old. Indian food has way more delicious vegetarian options for me and yoga is central is to my spirituality. I'm sorry if that somehow makes me a bad person.
On Jezebel, I constantly feel like I have to apologize for being white and that I have to defend myself against being lumped into the same category as the people who hurt you and the editors of Vogue who made those abominable decisions in India. I'm sorry you went through what you did and I will remember your experiences. Thank you for being so honest and frank.
04/23/09
@HanaMaru: Poor thing ): I've never had a single experience like that. Where are you?
I still have my mehndi (henna) on from Bengali New Year, and random people have stopped to tell me how beautiful it is. When I wear Bengali clothing, people tell me how beautiful the embroidery is or how they love how it goes with my skin tone. And I see no problem in sharing the beauty, because it generally gets appreciated.
04/23/09
04/23/09
I didn't call you a bad person and I don't expect you to apologize for how you were born, just like I'm not asking for any sort of sympathy medal for having dealt with xenophobia. I don't think you're rotten, I just think you're clueless as to how your white skin benefits you and what the baggage is when you wear a sari, versus when I do. It's clueless, just like the girls who hold their arms next to mine, and, yes, in the same category as the Vogue editor who wants to put an exotic touch on a white model(which I do consider merely clueless)
Since you feel that way though, why do you consider a Vogue story in India abominable, while you walking around in a sari is just putting on something pretty? If my answering your question with an explanation of why it makes me uncomfortable reads to you as a harsh wholesale condemnation, were yeses the only answer that would have been okay?
04/23/09
I'm sorry I upset/offended you. I can't apologize enough. Your culture is beautiful and I am sorry that for me to think so is offensive and somehow culturally insensitive. The culture into which I was born is vile and I truly wish I could be rid of the guilt inherent to my skin color. But I can't, and I'm sorry.
04/23/09
Clearly, you have no interest in actually listening and all you wanted were affirmations. Your original query wasn't even asked in good faith. What a waste of time.
04/23/09
04/23/09
what's the trick: bobby pins, eyelash glue, superglue?
04/23/09
04/23/09
04/23/09
Dodai this isn't directed at you--i know there have been problems with voting in India and little spates of violence so that's probably where this is coming from but it made me want to ask a general question.
04/23/09
04/23/09
04/23/09
Awesome semi-related story:
I had a professor when I did my abroad in London who was originally from New Zealand. He emigrated to England when he was a young man, in the 1960s. Back in those days there wasn't really affordable commuter airfare from/to New Zealand, so he flew to Australia, took a BOAT to India and then hitchiked, with his wife and all their stuff, through India, Pakistan, the Middle East and all of Europe until they got to France, where they took another boat to England.
Who wants to recreate that trip with me?!
04/23/09
04/23/09
04/23/09
04/23/09
04/23/09
04/23/09
04/23/09
04/23/09
04/23/09
04/23/09
The women who live, work, and shop there are always dressed GLORIOUSLY. There are Sari shops showcasing incredibly beautiful clothing. And the JEWELERY STORES! All that gorgeous gold Indian brides wear -- this is where they come to buy it. The cheapest thing I have seen in those stores was five thousand dollars. Everything encrusted with rubies and emeralds and sapphires.
It's a great day trip, complete with a Bollywood theater. Get some henna tattoos, call it a day.
04/23/09
Indian Mangoes. There is no Mango better than an Indian Mango. (Or, There are no Mangoes better than Indian Mangoes?)
04/23/09
04/23/09
04/23/09
I have lots of family in India who own Mango farms and the crop has been shitty this year, I'm not too sure about other areas though. Here in England Mangoes have been far more expensive than in past years, so I don't know how much mango eating will be done this year ;(
04/23/09
04/23/09
04/23/09