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    11/25/09

    In reply to Downward Spiral
    "Pencil Test": passes with flying colors
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    Image of MargaretMoony MargaretMoony
    11/25/09

    In reply to Downward Spiral
    I can't stop looking at. Seriously, my eyes just keep on going back and back to it.
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    Image of TheUptightMidwesterner TheUptightMidwesterner
    11/25/09

    In reply to Downward Spiral
    Strangely, this is actually what my husband sees whenever he looks at any chest. He cannot compel himself to look away.
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    Image of CurtCole CurtCole
    11/25/09

    @TheUptightMidwesterner: I'd scream, "The Power of Your Wife Compels YOU!" in exorcist fashion.
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    Image of GirlFailer GirlFailer
    11/25/09

    In reply to Downward Spiral
    Who needs picket signs when you have nipples?
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    Image of CurtCole CurtCole
    11/25/09

    In reply to Downward Spiral
    That's Hypnotit!
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    11/25/09

    @CurtCole: You're feeling veeeerrrry horny...
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    Image of miss_so_unknown miss_so_unknown
    11/25/09

    In reply to Australian Men Undertake "My Oath" • Child Porn "Shrine" Discovered
    My boyfriend is originally from Australia. When I showed him this article, he smiled and asked me where the white ribbon was in my craft box. He's proudly wearing one to work today.

    That being said, Go Aussies (and Kiwis!) for helping to spread awareness about this serious issue. I hope that targeting the potential aggressors of violence instead of the victims will make a difference.
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    Image of JinxyMcDeath JinxyMcDeath
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Cyclical Nature Of Songs About Sexual Violence
    Whoa, Bill Paxton came out of nowhere towards the end in that kidnap/attempted rape Limp Bizkit video. Did I miss something about the plot?
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    11/24/09

    In reply to The Cyclical Nature Of Songs About Sexual Violence
    I'd be interested to hear what other, maybe more recent songs she's looking at/considers relevant, in terms of women singing about violence against women. It seems like the culture of violence against women is so ingrained that in a lot of cases it's hard to even notice that songs we hear on the radio everyday are kind of squicky in that sense. (Well, worse than squicky in a lot of cases, I guess.)

    I'm not sure it would be an example, but what about Britney Spears' "Hit Me Baby One More Time"? Or the "Russian Roulette" song by Rihanna?
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    11/24/09

    @sequined: May I ask - having grown up to Britney Spears in high school...what do you think that song means? Because, I never got the impression that that song was about violence against women. I had heard that by adults, who seemed to take a literal impression of the song, and not been aware that it was slang.
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    11/25/09

    @crazy_lady: I was in high school when Britney came out, and I always thought it was a twisted song about a girl who was desperate for her abusive boyfriend to come back to her. How do you interpret the lyrics?
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    11/25/09

    @Hana Maru: "Hit me" means (or meant at the time - most likely the kids have moved on from that slang) "have sex with me". WHich is why it was released as "...Baby One More Time".
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    11/25/09

    @Hana Maru: cityofglass' comment explains it exactly.

    Or a more tame version, would be "hit me up", come by again, etc.

    But yeah, I'm surprised you thought that. I wonder how many others did? It's interesting how we all take such different meanings from songs.
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    11/25/09

    @cityofglass: Thanks, that makes sense.
    @crazy_lady: The other lyrics of the song are pretty crazily co-dependent. That's why it made sense to me that she was telling him she'd rather have him back and hitting her. There are other songs that are like"Come back, you don't have to be faithful/you can lie to me"

    #tips
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    11/24/09

    In reply to The Cyclical Nature Of Songs About Sexual Violence
    Oh yes, I would like to have coffee with this woman. She might be my new hero.
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    11/24/09

    In reply to The Cyclical Nature Of Songs About Sexual Violence
    Oh, that woman in the Limp Bizkit video! I just want to run in there and get him away from her - leave her alone, she's clearly terrified, you psychotic entitled asshole!

    I don't know how someone can look at that and feel it's romantic or desirable, I really don't. All I can think of is that he's a fucking cannibal and he's going to stalk her and kill her and maim her body.
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    11/24/09

    In reply to The Cyclical Nature Of Songs About Sexual Violence
    I saw Tori open with this song, probably about ten years ago, and it was CHILLING. I do think she makes an interesting commentary on Eminem's song without having to say anything but his lyrics. Just listening to those words spoken through a woman's voice make you hear all the violence behind them.
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    Image of Sputnik_Sweetheart Sputnik_Sweetheart
    11/24/09

    @girl.of.your.dreams: And she performed it behind a curtain didn't she? You could hear a pin drop in that theater.
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    11/25/09

    @Sputnik_Sweetheart: She did. And later she played Me and a Gun. It was pretty intense.
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    Image of MargaretMoony MargaretMoony
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Cyclical Nature Of Songs About Sexual Violence
    I'm really excited to see this thesis, my Feminist Student Union is trying to put out a monthly list about popular media that supports/encourages violence against women.
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    11/24/09

    In reply to The Cyclical Nature Of Songs About Sexual Violence
    Holy shit. I just read the lyrics to that Eminem song. How is that not considered an actual threat? Like, if someone not-famous wrote that song and posted it on their facebook page, couldn't it be used as evidence of a real and physical threat of impending violence? How is language like that ok?

    It's really, really scary. No wonder so many people talked about how Rihanna "deserved" getting beaten by Chris Brown, when so many people grew up listening to music like this.
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    11/25/09

    @Cimorene: "when so many people grew up listening to music like this."
    Ageism at its best! Since I went to high school in the 90s and listened to popular music I MUST not be able to grasp what domestic violence is.
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    11/25/09

    @frenchic: WTF are you talking about? I went to high school in the 90s and listened to popular music. The point is that popular music normalizes this kind of violence, and since we live in a world in which real self-reflection and examination of the status quo are discouraged, the number of people who simply allow eminem's music (etc) to shape their consciousness and reaction to events is far higher than those that can critically look at popular culture. The whole point of this article and the woman's research is that popular music deeply affects the way we see the world.
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    11/24/09

    In reply to Australian Men Undertake "My Oath" • Child Porn "Shrine" Discovered
    Joe Arpaio is an abuser. He emotionally, mentally, and physically abuses those least capable of leaving the abusive situation.

    Sadly, the fact that he's been re-elected numerous times, with a large winning margin, is a testament to his PR firm's ability to create a story and a headline, and to their ability to spin nearly anything for the sake of the mighty dollar.

    If you are tired of it, please get out there and campaign against this man. We can't do it alone in Arizona. We need the nation's help.
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    Image of La Chica Lucy La Chica Lucy
    11/24/09

    @TildeMarks: Unfortunately there are people all over the nation who AGREE with Asshole Arpaio - my father-in-law regularly forwards emails from his conservative friends about how great he is, and I'm in NY.

    That being said, what can those of us outside of AZ do? Because this man is a menace.
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    11/25/09

    @TildeMarks: Arpaio absolutely belongs in prison. There are many, many pathetic bullies in law enforcement, but few as vile as him, and none with the power he has over so many. I've noticed lately more chatter about what a villain he is, so perhaps the tides are turning. We can only hope so and do our best to make it so.
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    11/25/09

    @La Chica Lucy: Just get the word out about his numerous human rights abuses. Here's just one of many websites that give you some information and a way to help financially or just by sending this out.

    [www.arpaio.com]

    I will tell you, I am actually fearful of posting too much. Those who do, tend to find themselves in cuffs and a courtroom. No lie. Two editors for a local paper have been fighting bogus charges for years as a result of pointing out how Arpaio abuses prisoners, suspects, and citizens.
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    Image of La Chica Lucy La Chica Lucy
    11/25/09

    @TildeMarks: Thank you for the link.

    It must be terrifying to live in his county.
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    11/25/09

    @La Chica Lucy: Ugh, the last time I visited my MI relatives, my uncle brought up "that real sheriff" Arpaio and how "awesome" he is - most of my extended family sadly buys into the republican "dream", even though their buy-in has cost every single one of them a lot of grief over the last 10 years. It's cognitive dissonance at it's finest.
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    Image of TRexstasy TRexstasy
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Cyclical Nature Of Songs About Sexual Violence
    Oh Tori. When I chose you as my life guide and pretend guardian angel in 1991, I had no idea how many times you'd make me laugh, cry, and jump up off the sofa going, "YEAH!!", but damn, girl. Thanks.
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