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    06:54 PM

    In reply to Australian Men Undertake "My Oath" • Child Porn "Shrine" Discovered
    All the more reason to be wildly attracted to those Australian accents...
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    06:19 PM

    In reply to Australian Men Undertake "My Oath" • Child Porn "Shrine" Discovered
    Wisconsin, for blessing us such amazing cheese, you also curse us with a lot of weird, weird fuckers.
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    06:15 PM

    In reply to Australian Men Undertake "My Oath" • Child Porn "Shrine" Discovered
    How do you give birth while cuffed at the ANKLES? I've had three kids and I can tell you that is one of the most unreasonable things I have ever heard in my entire life.

    Also, they took her baby away right at birth and she had no contact at all for 72 days? That is just beyond the pale. Just so horrible I can't even begin to contemplate it. Emotional and physical horror is all I can say. That will have consequences for that baby and mother for the rest of their lives.

    So so sad.
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    06:07 PM

    In reply to Australian Men Undertake "My Oath" • Child Porn "Shrine" Discovered
    This Australian campaign sounds incredible- they're targeting the perpetrators instead of the objects of violence, and doing it non-accusingly and with humour. I'll be following this with great interest.
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    05:59 PM

    In reply to Australian Men Undertake "My Oath" • Child Porn "Shrine" Discovered
    Go Bal'more, Go Bal'more!
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    Image of Evie Havok Evie Havok
    05:43 PM

    In reply to Australian Men Undertake "My Oath" • Child Porn "Shrine" Discovered
    Arpaio is a bigot/racist. How unsurprised was I when I clicked on the link and I found the woman to be *brown*. No one needs to be shocked at the behavior of someone who collaborates with ICE.
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    Image of WagaMama WagaMama
    05:53 PM

    @Evie Havok: Arizona is my home state, not that I'd admit it. What is the state motto these days? "Arizona - Winning the Race to the Bottom"?

    And to think when I was in high school we thought Ev Mecham cancelling MLK Jr. day was bad ...
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    05:54 PM

    @Evie Havok: And yet he keeps getting elected. There is something rotten at the very core of society when that can happen.

    ICE is an absolutely frightening group. The fact that something like that can exist on American soil is an abomination. But they don't make headlines, so the president and congress aren't going to do a goddamned thing. There's nothing political to be gained by treating the downtrodden like human beings.
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    05:59 PM

    @Evie Havok: Well, a Mexican woman, and poor no less, so evidently she had it coming, right?
    The saddest part is what she herself says: "I'm not afraid to come out with my story," she said. "But I'm disappointed to see that not much has been done to stop [Joe Arpaio]."
    This dude has been in office for how fucking long? I remember him since I was in college, and that was eons ago. And he's still getting elected!
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    05:59 PM

    @Evie Havok: Co-operation with ICE isn't as bad as the deliberately humiliating and barbaric manner which she was treated in the County jail system. FTA (NewTimes):

    She waited 14 extra days in jail to be picked up by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    "[ICE officers] took me to the Florence Detention Center, where they treated me much better," she said. "At least not like an animal."
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    Image of whynotshesaid whynotshesaid
    05:40 PM

    In reply to Australian Men Undertake "My Oath" • Child Porn "Shrine" Discovered
    Also, the shackling of that woman is bad enough, but taking the baby away from her immediately after birth is ridiculous. It's traumatizing to both mother and child, and could have long-lasting ramifications for both.

    Joe Arpaio is a total fascist.
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    05:44 PM

    @whynotshesaid: She was incarcerated without a breastpump, or the opportunity to nurse her baby either. Mastitis is no fucking joke, and I can't imagine the kind of pain she must have been in emotionally and physically. It actually makes me feel really sick to my stomach to imagine what she had to go through.
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    05:53 PM

    @GirlFailer: I missed that part of the article. How infuriating.

    Another thing that sucks is that she was arrested on warrants that, had she had access to halfway decent legal representation, would have been nothing. Driving without a license and a misdemeanor shoplifting charge? Shit. I just wrote a story about a 17-year-old girl who was accused of hitting and killing a homeless woman with her car, then who drove home without telling anyone. She got fifteen months probation as a juvenile, and you KNOW the fact that her parents had money to get her a decent attorney had SO MUCH to do with it.

    And then of course the fact that she is undocumented....ARGH. You'd think the preamble to the Constitution contained the clause that all people were imbued with inalienable rights...as long as they are Americans.

    Again I say, FUCK JOE ARPAIO.
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    06:09 PM

    @whynotshesaid: What he did is also a violation of international norms, and medical practice. The U.N. Committee Against Torture, (which monitors compliance with the Convention Against Torture) and the Human Rights Committee (which monitors compliance with the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights) have both declared that shackling an inmate in labor violates both treaties.
    The U.S. is unsurprisingly behind much on the world on this.
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    05:39 PM

    In reply to Australian Men Undertake "My Oath" • Child Porn "Shrine" Discovered
    Mr. Derks? The pot is calling; it says you're black.
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    05:37 PM

    In reply to Australian Men Undertake "My Oath" • Child Porn "Shrine" Discovered
    He claims he turned to children after realizing that the world has gotten "worse and worse."

    How ironic.
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    05:37 PM

    In reply to Australian Men Undertake "My Oath" • Child Porn "Shrine" Discovered
    I don't think we would ask Osama Bin Laden to give birth is such restraints. What the hell was she going to do, up and run while in labor?
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    05:36 PM

    In reply to Australian Men Undertake "My Oath" • Child Porn "Shrine" Discovered
    Christ, don't even bother to scroll down to the comments after the article about the woman who was forced to give birth in shackles. My heart hurts.
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    05:36 PM

    In reply to Australian Men Undertake "My Oath" • Child Porn "Shrine" Discovered
    Okay, this line from the source for the linked Arpaio article has me feelin' stabby:
    "Let's assume someone is faking labor — that's a hypothetical — and she then chose to escape and hit or assault the hospital staff," McIntyre said. "She could do that easily because it's an unsecured area."

    Yeah, you know those pregnant ladies. They're SUPER HARD to chase down what with their pregnancy speed.
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    06:26 PM

    @Zombie Ms. Skittles: It's that huge pregnancy belly! It makes them, um, aerodynamic. Or something.
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    06:52 PM

    @sableized (just like starting over): The better to roll away with! At high velocities! *Headdesk*

    The entire story literally nauseates me.
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    11/21/09

    In reply to Rihanna On Chris Brown: "I Really Hope Young Men Can Learn From It"
    How bout a round of applause?
    A standing ovation?

    I'm lame, but seriously, she is so great, and I love her so much.
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    Image of Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC
    11/21/09

    In reply to Rihanna On Chris Brown: "I Really Hope Young Men Can Learn From It"
    Unless the woman is the abuser...I mean, that can happen too. It doesn't have to be so polarizing: Men (Abuser) versus Women (Victim). It's learning that everyone has to have the emotional fortitude to use something besides their fists to rectify a problem. I'm glad that Rihanna's standing up and saying this though. That's just a little bone I have to pick. I've been working with a few teenaged-girls who think nothing of hitting their boyfriends and I've tried to tell them that their behavior is unacceptable and isn't "okay" just because they are girls. Abuse is abuse.
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    Image of curiousgeorgiana curiousgeorgiana
    11/21/09

    @Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC: I think she was just commenting on her experience, but I agree with you. Abuse is abuse, regardless of male or female. And we need to raise awareness for all.
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    11/22/09

    @Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC: Do you know how rare DV by women against men is? Incredibly so. When men are actual victims, it's overwhelmingly by other men. Same is true when women are batterers: women are usually also the victims. Besides DV isn't just "violence." It's the act of holding someone hostage.

    Have those boys being hit by those girls tried leaving? Honest question. If they have and the girls refuse to let them go, chasing them down and terrorizing them or threatening to kill themselves, then it's comparable.
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    Image of Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC
    11/22/09

    @Andalucía: I wonder if it's incredibly underreported seeing as how humiliating it would be for a man to even mention it because abuse is a "woman thing". And teen relationships thrive on melodrama, so yes (of the kids I've worked with) many a girl has made harrassing phone calls or threatened to "kill herself" if the guy leaves her. But yes, guys do this more than girls, by far. Still, if I reversed your question and said "haven't those girls being hit by boys ever thought of just leaving?", I'm sure I would be reamed. Having a psychological hold on a person is what keeps these abusive relationships in a continuous cycle. There doesn't need to be constant physical restraint to keep a person in line. Abusers thrive on manipulating the minds of those they abuse through damaging their self-esteem and sense of personal power.

    @Ginmar Rienne: Slapping is still abuse. If you put your scenario in the reverse (a man slapping a woman) I don't think you'd be so cavalier). And I'm not trying to equalize things. I'm just mentioning that abuse is a equal opportunity kind of thing. Men abuse men. Women abuse women. Men abuse women. Women abuse men. Men and Women abuse children. Now yes, men in many instances have the physical advantage, but to say that a woman doing the same thing to a man wouldn't be just as emotionally damaging is incorrect. Your comment implies women are somehow weaker and can't really emotionally or physically inflict harm. Incorrect. Or that men who are victims of abuse should stay "closeted" because it really doesn't matter in the "gender power structure". Also incorrect. Abuse is abuse. Putting it in terms of women as victims and men as abusers paints a broad stroke that I'm sure Rihanna didn't intend, but because of my experiences working with teens I've had to address more than once. Keeping one's hands to themselves is an EVERYBODY kind of thing. #tips
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    Image of IBleedGlitter: The High Priestess of Tinsel IBleedGlitter: The High Priestess of Tinsel
    11/21/09

    In reply to Rihanna On Chris Brown: "I Really Hope Young Men Can Learn From It"
    I officially love her. It's so friggin obvious, but not enough people will come right out and say it.
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