I'd be interested to hear what other, maybe more recent songs she's looking at/considers relevant, in terms of women singing about violence against women. It seems like the culture of violence against women is so ingrained that in a lot of cases it's hard to even notice that songs we hear on the radio everyday are kind of squicky in that sense. (Well, worse than squicky in a lot of cases, I guess.)
I'm not sure it would be an example, but what about Britney Spears' "Hit Me Baby One More Time"? Or the "Russian Roulette" song by Rihanna?
@sequined: May I ask - having grown up to Britney Spears in high school...what do you think that song means? Because, I never got the impression that that song was about violence against women. I had heard that by adults, who seemed to take a literal impression of the song, and not been aware that it was slang.
@crazy_lady: I was in high school when Britney came out, and I always thought it was a twisted song about a girl who was desperate for her abusive boyfriend to come back to her. How do you interpret the lyrics?
Oh, that woman in the Limp Bizkit video! I just want to run in there and get him away from her - leave her alone, she's clearly terrified, you psychotic entitled asshole!
I don't know how someone can look at that and feel it's romantic or desirable, I really don't. All I can think of is that he's a fucking cannibal and he's going to stalk her and kill her and maim her body.
I saw Tori open with this song, probably about ten years ago, and it was CHILLING. I do think she makes an interesting commentary on Eminem's song without having to say anything but his lyrics. Just listening to those words spoken through a woman's voice make you hear all the violence behind them.
I'm really excited to see this thesis, my Feminist Student Union is trying to put out a monthly list about popular media that supports/encourages violence against women.
Holy shit. I just read the lyrics to that Eminem song. How is that not considered an actual threat? Like, if someone not-famous wrote that song and posted it on their facebook page, couldn't it be used as evidence of a real and physical threat of impending violence? How is language like that ok?
It's really, really scary. No wonder so many people talked about how Rihanna "deserved" getting beaten by Chris Brown, when so many people grew up listening to music like this.
Joe Arpaio is an abuser. He emotionally, mentally, and physically abuses those least capable of leaving the abusive situation.
Sadly, the fact that he's been re-elected numerous times, with a large winning margin, is a testament to his PR firm's ability to create a story and a headline, and to their ability to spin nearly anything for the sake of the mighty dollar.
If you are tired of it, please get out there and campaign against this man. We can't do it alone in Arizona. We need the nation's help.
@TildeMarks: Unfortunately there are people all over the nation who AGREE with Asshole Arpaio - my father-in-law regularly forwards emails from his conservative friends about how great he is, and I'm in NY.
That being said, what can those of us outside of AZ do? Because this man is a menace.
@TildeMarks: Arpaio absolutely belongs in prison. There are many, many pathetic bullies in law enforcement, but few as vile as him, and none with the power he has over so many. I've noticed lately more chatter about what a villain he is, so perhaps the tides are turning. We can only hope so and do our best to make it so.
Oh Tori. When I chose you as my life guide and pretend guardian angel in 1991, I had no idea how many times you'd make me laugh, cry, and jump up off the sofa going, "YEAH!!", but damn, girl. Thanks.
@morninggloria: Boo. But! Apparently they're trying to pass a bill allowing individuals with certain chronic diseases to grow their own chronic! Two of my friends qualify!
How do you give birth while cuffed at the ANKLES? I've had three kids and I can tell you that is one of the most unreasonable things I have ever heard in my entire life.
Also, they took her baby away right at birth and she had no contact at all for 72 days? That is just beyond the pale. Just so horrible I can't even begin to contemplate it. Emotional and physical horror is all I can say. That will have consequences for that baby and mother for the rest of their lives.
@applejuice: Likely her ankles were not cuffed together. The restraints at the psych hospital where I work (yes, I abhor them and refuse to participate like any sane person ought) are actually velcro/webbing/lock contraptions and there is a separate one for each wrist and ankle. They hook into the bed, so the person has their feet apart and their wrists restrained by their hips.
This Australian campaign sounds incredible- they're targeting the perpetrators instead of the objects of violence, and doing it non-accusingly and with humour. I'll be following this with great interest.
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I'm not sure it would be an example, but what about Britney Spears' "Hit Me Baby One More Time"? Or the "Russian Roulette" song by Rihanna?
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I don't know how someone can look at that and feel it's romantic or desirable, I really don't. All I can think of is that he's a fucking cannibal and he's going to stalk her and kill her and maim her body.
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It's really, really scary. No wonder so many people talked about how Rihanna "deserved" getting beaten by Chris Brown, when so many people grew up listening to music like this.
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Sadly, the fact that he's been re-elected numerous times, with a large winning margin, is a testament to his PR firm's ability to create a story and a headline, and to their ability to spin nearly anything for the sake of the mighty dollar.
If you are tired of it, please get out there and campaign against this man. We can't do it alone in Arizona. We need the nation's help.
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That being said, what can those of us outside of AZ do? Because this man is a menace.
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(And child born. Boo.)
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Also, they took her baby away right at birth and she had no contact at all for 72 days? That is just beyond the pale. Just so horrible I can't even begin to contemplate it. Emotional and physical horror is all I can say. That will have consequences for that baby and mother for the rest of their lives.
So so sad.
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