@BeckySharper: Don't, please. The people who brainstormed this ad, and most of the people who walk by it were born after 1945, or were only children then.
@bowleserised: Yes, that's true, which is why I'm refraining. The vast majority of the Germans who will see this are not the same Germans who looked the other way in the 30s and 40s.
@BeckySharper: I don't think the comparison would be appropriate here, anyway. This is not about ignoring/supporting the rise & impact of a fascist regime while regular citizens are carted off wholesale with implicit societal approval (we might compare that on a slightly more benign level to our previous administration, but that's a discussion for another post).
This is about the violence citizens regularly perpetrate on one another.
@UrbanAchiever: It's the implicit societal approval that strikes me as relevant, i.e. when you know something bad is happening to your neighbor in the next house or on your block, but you choose not to help them.
@BeckySharper: I think it's ironic to generalise and stereotype about a nation which, in the past, generalised about and stereotyped others with horrific results.
What's "this nation" anyway, if most of the individuals weren't born in the 1930s?
@bowleserised: History doesn't cease to be relevant as soon as the active players die out. Things that happened in the recent past--we're only talking one generation here--most definitely affect the culture of the present.
I don't pretend that America's history of slavery, genocide, injustice and brutality no longer matters and no longer affects me simply because I wasn't alive when those things happened. Why should Germans?
@BeckySharper: Shouldn't you be happy that they're making steps forward to ensure that such acts of violence no longer occur in their country? I don't understsand what you're trying to say here. Because something has happened in the past they can't try to stop it in the future? Germany has moved onward and is working to better itself. Please don't muck up the past in order to negate their work against domestic violence.
@bowleserised: A few months ago the "Spiegel" had an article about the hilarious misunderstandings that were caused by English advertising pitches, I wish I'd kept it.
@bowleserised: Oh, there are unfortunate ones. I'm still in love with "come in and find out" translated into "komm rein und finde wieder raus".
I'm also not sure what to think about this: [blog.lernziel.de]
Also, I think *this* version of the ad is in English because it's the one used as a submission for awards. I'll have to ask my friend who works in advertising...
I hate that being forward or standing up for myself is seen as being pushy or bitchy. So if I ever attempt to advocate for myself, I risk doing myself harm.
@Zombie Ms. Skittles: Nail on head.Also, I'll add: I hate knowing (some of the) men in my workplace will always I'm dumber than they are, no matter what.
"that I should be the one defending the country or bringing food to the table"
Hmm. So I don't disagree that gender roles are binding per se, but, umm, sometimes I hear things like the above from men and sort of think they are only interested in gender inequality insofar as it means that they won't have to "shoulder the burden" or whatever.
What gender role imposed by society do I hate the most? The idea that the most important indicator of my worth is whether or not men want to have sex with me.
@BuffySummers: clarification: stabby about all the annoying gender roles, not stabby out of jealousy of your awesomeness. Though, I have that too, duh.
@Benevolent_Dictatrix (patently absurd):
THIS. It is both hilarious and heartbreaking that emotionally and physically HIDEOUS lunks think that by calling me sexually unnattractive to them, I will be sore offended.
@Benevolent_Dictatrix (patently absurd): agreed. i had a boss who made a point of criticizing my appearance every day (i have curly hair that frizzes sometimes, and very fair skin) until one day i was like "yeah mike. cause i care so much if im attractive to *you*." /dripping sarcasm @ mike.
Side Note: have just started rewatching TNG, this time in the company of my four-year-old son. As soon as my son saw Capt. Picard, he said, "THAT guy's COOL!" Yes, yes, he is.
I recently googled "Patrick Stewart Feminist" because I had heard he was part of that "This is what a Feminist looks like" campaign. One of the pages that came up was one of the most VILE things I have ever seen.
It was a page called "antimisandry.com" and it's tagline was "curing Feminist indoctrination". They were badmouthing Stewart for being and "awful liberal" and they were also saying all kinds of stuff about awful "man-hating" feminists who they said actually want to KILL men. I stopped looking after that, it was just to gross.
Sometimes I worry about the future of the human race.
His article made me tear up, which, if you know me, you'll know is no small feat (being someone who has had no personal experience with domestic violence, nor has anybody close to me, and also being someone who rarely has emotional reactions).
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What's "this nation" anyway, if most of the individuals weren't born in the 1930s?
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I don't pretend that America's history of slavery, genocide, injustice and brutality no longer matters and no longer affects me simply because I wasn't alive when those things happened. Why should Germans?
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I'm also not sure what to think about this: [blog.lernziel.de]
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Also, I think *this* version of the ad is in English because it's the one used as a submission for awards. I'll have to ask my friend who works in advertising...
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I think the publish it once in a while, at least I've read it this year again somewhere.
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Knowing that I will often be held to a different professional and social standard than my male counterparts.
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Hmm. So I don't disagree that gender roles are binding per se, but, umm, sometimes I hear things like the above from men and sort of think they are only interested in gender inequality insofar as it means that they won't have to "shoulder the burden" or whatever.
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THIS. It is both hilarious and heartbreaking that emotionally and physically HIDEOUS lunks think that by calling me sexually unnattractive to them, I will be sore offended.
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Side Note: have just started rewatching TNG, this time in the company of my four-year-old son. As soon as my son saw Capt. Picard, he said, "THAT guy's COOL!" Yes, yes, he is.
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It was a page called "antimisandry.com" and it's tagline was "curing Feminist indoctrination". They were badmouthing Stewart for being and "awful liberal" and they were also saying all kinds of stuff about awful "man-hating" feminists who they said actually want to KILL men. I stopped looking after that, it was just to gross.
Sometimes I worry about the future of the human race.
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Until 12 my dream man changed to Picard.
Patrick Stewart, you are so.... :::swoon::: !
Now this makes it even worse because I love to take care of men. Both mentally and otherwise. My heart goes out to you Mr. Stewart.....
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Man, do I know how that goes.
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This is what men should aspire to be.
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