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Kim Kardashian: Not Full-Figured; A Little Offended
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BoozeInMyBlood[had lost her password]
04/21/09

In reply to Kim Kardashian: Not Full-Figured; A Little Offended
What the fuck is it about a size 2 that people want to BE it so badly? Why not go all the way and be a zero, if thats how you are going to be. Is it because its the last number before the non-size?

I think its an unwritten code that 'stars' subtract at least one number size before they talk about clothes.
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hello.kitty
04/21/09

@BoozeInMyBlood[is lusting over Seth Green]: There ought to be a reverse SPINAL TAP sizing chart.

Saleslady at hipster boutique: "Most stores go down to 0, but ours go down to -6. When you want that extra push over the skinny cliff."
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rednrowdy
04/21/09

In reply to Kim Kardashian: Not Full-Figured; A Little Offended
@Dictator for Life: "Sizes mean nothing"

in the context of what you posted, of course it's true, but kk's response just shows how much sizes do mean. all us magazine did was use a picture of her next to an ad for forever 21's plus size line.

if sizes don't mean anything, then why would she bother to respond? a random photo does not a plus-size clothing ad make.

either that, or she's just pissed that she didn't get paid for kinda sorta not being in the ad in the first place.
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Slumdog_Mamabear
04/21/09

In reply to Kim Kardashian: Not Full-Figured; A Little Offended
Years ago when I worked retail there was a brand of highly coveted jeans that the designer made by using her SELF as a fit model. So if she gained or lost weight the sizes changed. The market for these jeans were generally rich teens or body conscious twenty-thirty somethings which meant that when the jeans changed I periodically had customers in full blown crisis in dressing floors. It didn't help that the designer was TEENY TINY. Meaning that the zero was sometimes more along the lines of "get thee to the hospital". That meant that a 4 or 6 was a normal persons 0. I was a 2 at the time and had jeans from that line in a 0 to a 12 in my closet that fit. It was a nightmare.
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Slumdog_Mamabear
04/21/09

@Slumdog_Mamabear: Wrong place, this was supposed to go under a thread about vanity sizing!
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STICKSnSCONES
04/21/09

In reply to Kim Kardashian: Not Full-Figured; A Little Offended
"I work really hard to maintain my curves while staying slim..."

I know Kim K goes to the gym (because she uses her workout gear as a photo-op), but she's also admitted to quite a bit of lipo. I'm not sure this "working hard" thing means what she thinks it does.
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gobblegirl
04/21/09

In reply to Kim Kardashian: Not Full-Figured; A Little Offended
She's being sort of a B about it, but she's right.
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Samanthrax
04/21/09

In reply to Kim Kardashian: Not Full-Figured; A Little Offended
I can't believe people are arguing about what size she actually is! I would reply with this in a thread doing so, but I can't. This is absurd. She's a size 2! No, she's a size 8! She's short, so sizes look smaller on her! Something about Marilyn Monroe! Seriously?
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ellaesther
04/21/09

@Samanthrax is Sarcastic: I was going to reply with something about Marilyn Monroe -- but you did it for me!

I agree. We don't know her size, and 1. her size is actually none of our business and b. knowledge of her actual size WOULDN'T ADD ANYTHING TO ANY CONVERSATION OF ANY IMPORT!

But did you know that Monroe was a 14? And that's a size Elebenity Million in today's system? But it's a 2 in England. Or was. During the war.
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baraqiel
04/21/09

@Samanthrax is Sarcastic: I know, sigh. I tried to distract/divert/whatever! But I think I got here slightly too late. Alternately, resistance is futile.
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NellMood
04/21/09

@Samanthrax is Sarcastic: Seriously. It's ridiculous that this is even being debated. It's frustrating when the conversation turns to measurement comparisons among commenters.
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angelina jolie-laide is a gaudy tulip
04/21/09

@Samanthrax is Sarcastic: Honestly, this is making my head spin.
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Eric Northman is mine
04/21/09

In reply to Kim Kardashian: Not Full-Figured; A Little Offended
aka i'm not a fatty. Really subtle, Kim K
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JinxyMcDeath
04/21/09

In reply to Kim Kardashian: Not Full-Figured; A Little Offended
Excuse me, but the end of Ms. Kardashian's quote was that she's a size 2. WTF. Not only is that not true (because as a petite woman with curves, size 2's are made for petite women without curves) but it goes against everything she just said.
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nyc-caribbean-ragazza
04/21/09

In reply to Kim Kardashian: Not Full-Figured; A Little Offended
Kim is tiny! Just because she has a chest and a butt doesn't mean she is plus sized. There are women who are plus sized and not curvy and vice versa.

And yes from my brief foray into Internet dating in L.A. apparently curvy is code for plus sized. Folks are crazy.

I said this before but it drove me nuts how J.Lo was considered a "big girl". I saw her at a premiere. Why she does have a butt at most she was a 4 then. Russell Crowe and other male actors can be whatever size they want but god forbid an actress is over a size 2.

Do people not realize the avg. size in America is a 14?
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Shamrockette
04/21/09

@nyc-caribbean-ragazza: Hollywood is like some secluded sect, away from the real world and real people. And they don't use common knowledge or common sense.
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ellaesther
04/21/09

In reply to Kim Kardashian: Not Full-Figured; A Little Offended
And thus another euphemism, meant to take the sting out of an insult, bites the dust. See: full-figured, husky, pleasantly plump, zaftig, Rubenesque. Etc. I await the demise of "Joan," as well.

Perhaps we could just stop insulting people (and by "people" I mean "women") based on their size? Perhaps we could simply value people (and by "people" I mean "women who don't meet precisely a particular, arbitrary set of criteria for what constitutes being physically attractive")?

Oh, ellaesther. You dream too big.
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Jello Mix
04/21/09

@ellaesther: At this point we practically need a Weight bingo card to go along with the Racism one.

Not saying the two are equal; just pointing out that the same arguments/responses come up time and time again.
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megnificent
04/21/09

In reply to Kim Kardashian: Not Full-Figured; A Little Offended
Kim should have focused her outrage on the fact that US implied she shops at Forever 21.
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gold_gato
04/21/09

@megnificent: Haha. Seriously, I would be like, if you're going to put my name on F21 at least pay me the big $$
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Evie Havok
04/21/09

@megnificent: She does. If you read the full quote she implies that she does shop there.
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megnificent
04/21/09

@afiunderground: Hmm. Seems like the wrong price point for someone frequently photographed in a Ferrari.
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Evie Havok
04/21/09

@megnificent: If it means anything to you I know plenty of cheapo rich people who actually go to Goodwill. They are out there.
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megnificent
04/21/09

@afiunderground: I suppose I can see why buying inexpensive clothes would be smart when you're expected to be seen in a completely new outfit every freakin' day.
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FontWhore (the Great Nubling Hope)
04/21/09

In reply to Kim Kardashian: Not Full-Figured; A Little Offended
I guess I am not very observant, because I didn't realize Amber Rose is a person of color...?
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Evie Havok
04/21/09

@FontWhore (sans nublings): Really? She's a little bit light skinned but I could tell that she wasn't white.
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baraqiel
04/21/09

In reply to Kim Kardashian: Not Full-Figured; A Little Offended
You know what I've decided? Clearly all women in Hollywood are too short. Otherwise they wouldn't be proportioned in such a way that we could actually have these debates about "she looks like she couldn't fit into x thing!" vs. "she actually wears a size 2!".

As such, I'm going to start a new campaign against Hollywood's hegemony of the short. Tall women can act, too, Hollywood! I'm 5'8'' and I was in acting class in high school!
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Samanthrax
04/21/09

In reply to Kim Kardashian: Not Full-Figured; A Little Offended
I can't reply to anyone! Gah!

I don't know why I'm not annoyed by Kim's comment. It's probably got something to do with the fact that she's not plus-sized, and that it is fucked if you think it is.

Anyhoo, let's not turn this entire thread into size comparisons. As much as I love knowing everyone's measurements, it's not needed.
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J.D.Regent
04/21/09

@Samanthrax is Sarcastic: exactly...as most people said I think she only really got annoying when she dropped her own size.
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thesciencegirl wields the truth like a mighty axe.
04/21/09

@Samanthrax is Sarcastic: too late.... I already know everyone's hip sizes.
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KathrynwithaY loves Joan Collins
04/21/09

In reply to Kim Kardashian: Not Full-Figured; A Little Offended
And curvy and plus-sized aren't always two different things! I am a curvy hourglass shape but technically plus-sized!

*storms off in a huff*
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