Haredim are really rare here in Germany, so I'm glad I don't have to deal with them. However, at my prom, we were loitering about outside in flimsy/revealing dresses and tuxes because the place we'd ranted hadn't opened yet. And lo! Through the mass walks a man in full-fledged Haredim-wear. I still wonder if all of that was like porn to him.
Back on topic: Haredim need to get over themselves. There is nothing shameful about a woman's body and you are not animals who need to be protected from our womanly wiles.
Exactly. I've never been able to understand, in these fundamentalist sects where men are undoubtedly "in charge", why they also admit (through their actions) of being so weak that they can't catch a glimpse of hair or a slice of arm above the wrist without going nuts.
Maybe the men that are having such control issues should start wearing double eye patches - then everyone would be happy. I could walk around in a short sleeved shirt and they wouldn't be driven crazy with desire.
I'm not surprised. Those buses will at the very least be defaced if they loiter in Ultra Orthodox neighborhoods at all. I would not want to be the driver at that time.
@battleaxonista: In which case, the bus company should have the option of not running the bus through those neighborhoods. Jerusalem makes way too many concessions to the Haredi and their fanaticism.
@BeckySharper: If they were actually forced to serve like the rest of Israel, maybe they would come to appreciate the value of a woman as a comrade, rather than resident sheet ironer.
@BeckySharper: Yes! I hate how Haredi the country has gotten. It's all because of Ben-Gurion and the original concessions he made to the community. Israel was built by secular Jews, damn it! This is why I will never live in Jerusalem.
WHAT'S WITH ALL THE NEWS OF 'WOMEN CAN'T BE SEEN OR WE'LL GET VIOLENT'? Seriously, I'm gonna have a stroke from anger overload.
I'm *this* close to starting a global female militia, in which we go around the world armed to our teeth, kicking asses and taking names of violent, misogynistic a-holes.
@Brigit: The Femi-Nazi Boner Killers were supposed to ride awhile ago .. but BAngieB left the site and she was our driver. You want to drive? I'll take shotgun .. literally.
@ineffable.me: The Haredim (ultra-Orthodox to you and me) get all freaked out by depictions of women that aren't sufficiently modest. Of course, by their standards Hilary Clinton in a pantsuit would be immodest.
@ineffable.me: If you ever spend any time in West Jerusalem, you have to learn which are the Haredi neighborhoods because they will literally stone you--as in, pick up a rock and chuck it at your head--if you wander in dressed in pants or with any bit of skin revealed. I absolutely LOATHE them. They're like the Jewish Taliban.
@BeckySharper: Has anyone set up a Hollaback Jerusalem for photographs of the stone-throwers? And is there any chance of getting the assault and battery laws enforced?
@RocktheDebit: It would be tough to get the laws enforced--you usually have due warning when you approach one of the enclaves. Outside Me'ah Shearim, the best known of the Haredi neighborhoods, there's a large, prominently placed sign warning people not to enter unless they conform to the dress/behavior code (for example, it's offensive for men and women to have any physical contact at all).
Also, much of Jerusalem is controlled by the ultra-Orthodox, and the mayor is Ultra-Orthodox, so the Haredim can get away with behavior that would not fly in other Israeli cities.
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Why are these dudes offended by the sight of women but not by violence and vandalism? I guess it's a question for the ages.
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Back on topic: Haredim need to get over themselves. There is nothing shameful about a woman's body and you are not animals who need to be protected from our womanly wiles.
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Can we photoshop Bill O'Rielly out? Let's photoshop him out of everything.... and replace him with a teddy bear.
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Thanks a lot, organized religions. At least I can hate you all equally.
Lucy
PS FUCKING FUCK OFF! I will not be ashamed.
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If you can't control yourself, you get behind the damn screen at shul!
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Exactly. I've never been able to understand, in these fundamentalist sects where men are undoubtedly "in charge", why they also admit (through their actions) of being so weak that they can't catch a glimpse of hair or a slice of arm above the wrist without going nuts.
Maybe the men that are having such control issues should start wearing double eye patches - then everyone would be happy. I could walk around in a short sleeved shirt and they wouldn't be driven crazy with desire.
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If they can't control their impulses when they catch a glimpse of ankle, why should we entrust them with anything!
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@KillMeNow has a stalker named Yolanda: I would pay good money to have them send a couple female police officers to snap on the cuffs.
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I'm *this* close to starting a global female militia, in which we go around the world armed to our teeth, kicking asses and taking names of violent, misogynistic a-holes.
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Too. Fucking. Bad.
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that shit is bananas.
i mean.
B A N A N A S
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Also, much of Jerusalem is controlled by the ultra-Orthodox, and the mayor is Ultra-Orthodox, so the Haredim can get away with behavior that would not fly in other Israeli cities.
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