Let's forget the fact that the same two women could NOT be wearing these same clothes without the major air-brushing to make Crystal Renn look "normal" (Note, "normal" in quotes. *I* think she's perfectly normal) I'm sure the "skinny" model is airbrushed too, but one criticism that "big" girls (like myself) get is because of cellulite. Even though skinny girls get it too, it's stereotyped as a 'fat girl' problem.
One of the happiest days of my life was when I saw some un-retouched pictures of Renn and saw she had MAJOR cellulite... Just like me! Just like a normal person! Up until that point I'd been berating myself for having the same measurements as Renn but not looking ANYTHING like her. It shocked me to find out that... DUH... she LOOKS LIKE A HUMAN BEING... just like me.
You wouldn't know that from these pictures though... and if she was wearing those mini-skirts (as smoking hot as she is in those retouched pictures!) out on the red-carpet, it would be a "Worst-dressed" moment because she let her flesh hang out. Let's not kid ourselves...
@Israfel_angel: I don't think they're claiming it is the exact same clothing, but they could be wearing some of the same clothes, a lot of them look to be stretchy, spandex type items. The difference between a small and a medium leotard isn't that big.
I read Archie comics all the time when I was younger, and recently started up again. It's a fun diversion when I can't sleep, but honestly Betty is too much of a doormat and Veronica is, on balance, too hateful. And Archie is just kind of a doofus, as Latoya kind of got at.
I'm reading the Archie marriage continuation now, and it's implied that Archie and Veronica didn't really have any "alone" time until the marriage. I know they do that to remain "family-friendly," but it cracked me up. Get yours, kids! It's been 60 or 70 years and you haven't done more than make out.
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I don't know, I'm not as upset by this. I think a lot of people have the idea that when "plus" models are featured in magazines, they're wearing specially designed "plus" clothes. I interpreted the feature as saying, "see? she can rock them just as well as (or better than) the size 2 can rock them."
I kind of looked at it as saying, don't go into a store and think to yourself, oh, I can't wear those, they're for the skinny girls.
@laureltreedaphne: I like your reading of this. I also see Jenna's point, but I think her (and my) immediate assumption that the intent here is for the viewer to compare the two models might be part of the problem. Maybe that wasn't the point? Maybe you're spot on?
Maybe we're so conditioned as women to obsessively comparing ourselves to those around us that we can imagine no other possible purpose?
I also wonder if there isn't something at play in the photo selections. Notice that in two of the four photos, Renn's not making eye contact, while in all four, the other model is. That creates a subtle inequality, I think. And I wonder if it was purposeful or not.
Either way, I think Ms. Renn blows her "competition" right off the page.
These models both look halfway decent in these horrible outfits because THEY ARE THE SAME MODEL. Which is to say, they have roughly the same proportions and both have long limbs and necks. Yes, Crystal Renn is proportionately larger, but in essence these women are matryoshka dolls. Fashion that flatters any figure? Including LEOTARDS? Really, you have to be fucking kidding. How about putting someone like me, short with a 13 inch waist-hip difference, in these clothes, and then making the same claim?
That said, nice to see someone like Renn making it. Too bad they felt the need to put a skinny comparison model next to her.
Is anyone else reminded of R.Crumb's drawings of women? Renn's legs, with the short skirts and the chunky heels, totally looks like his large and usually unobtainable women. I can't find very good examples, but here are a few:
This kind of spread is definitely setting up an ugly compare/contrast type of situation and I think it's gross. Especially considering they listed both models' measurements!?! What a horrible idea.
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Actually seeing Crystal Renn's measurements and hearing her be called a plus-sized model...
that does absolutely nothing positive for teenage girls' self-esteem. Or any woman's, really.
Hold on. I thought the point of looking good in clothing was to dress to your body type? Why on earth would you put two people with totally different measurements in the exact same outfits? I get the gimmick, but the hell?
I suppose I'd be in a better place to judge if I could tell what the outfits look like on each model, but I can't, because every time I try my eyeballs shut down in self-defence. Those are ugly, ugly clothes. And you know what's a good pose for girls of every size? "Awkward squatting".
Thank you, V, for reminding me why I never buy shitty fashion magazines.
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One of the happiest days of my life was when I saw some un-retouched pictures of Renn and saw she had MAJOR cellulite... Just like me! Just like a normal person! Up until that point I'd been berating myself for having the same measurements as Renn but not looking ANYTHING like her. It shocked me to find out that... DUH... she LOOKS LIKE A HUMAN BEING... just like me.
You wouldn't know that from these pictures though... and if she was wearing those mini-skirts (as smoking hot as she is in those retouched pictures!) out on the red-carpet, it would be a "Worst-dressed" moment because she let her flesh hang out. Let's not kid ourselves...
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Betty vs. VeronicaJennifer vs. AngelinaI'm reading the Archie marriage continuation now, and it's implied that Archie and Veronica didn't really have any "alone" time until the marriage. I know they do that to remain "family-friendly," but it cracked me up. Get yours, kids! It's been 60 or 70 years and you haven't done more than make out.
I think most of us are probably Ethel. OK, just me. I'm always attracted to the wrong boy. Although so is Midge-Moose scares me a little now that I'm an adult.
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I kind of looked at it as saying, don't go into a store and think to yourself, oh, I can't wear those, they're for the skinny girls.
It made me feel good.
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Maybe we're so conditioned as women to obsessively comparing ourselves to those around us that we can imagine no other possible purpose?
I also wonder if there isn't something at play in the photo selections. Notice that in two of the four photos, Renn's not making eye contact, while in all four, the other model is. That creates a subtle inequality, I think. And I wonder if it was purposeful or not.
Either way, I think Ms. Renn blows her "competition" right off the page.
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That said, nice to see someone like Renn making it. Too bad they felt the need to put a skinny comparison model next to her.
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Call me crazy but they both look skinny to me.
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that does absolutely nothing positive for teenage girls' self-esteem. Or any woman's, really.
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I suppose I'd be in a better place to judge if I could tell what the outfits look like on each model, but I can't, because every time I try my eyeballs shut down in self-defence. Those are ugly, ugly clothes. And you know what's a good pose for girls of every size? "Awkward squatting".
Thank you, V, for reminding me why I never buy shitty fashion magazines.