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Nighthawk (the former Okori Wadsworth) is headed back to DGUSA in November!
01/21/09

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Honestly I don't even know what to say. I've watched 45 seconds of this show. just 45 seconds. And then.... I ran upstairs and ran on the treadmill for an hour. I was so utterly disgusted that I had to run before I drove my own elbow through my TV screen.
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Nighthawk (the former Okori Wadsworth) is headed back to DGUSA in November!
01/21/09

@Okori Wadsworth is proud to be a wrestling geek (Manami Toy...:

and then picked up the shattered TV screen and roaring elbowed that fucker. Stupid-ass Tool Academy. And people wonder why my DVD player is always plugged in.
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SharonTaint
01/21/09

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I can't even get past the stupid hair in the screen shot. Foul! Foul!!!
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PrettyPrettyPrincess
01/21/09

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I am not under the impression that Matsuflex WANTS to have sex with his girlfriend. He seems very....ok with the way things are. Seems to want the attention more than anything else, with the strange girls... is he compensating for something?

I admit it. I love this show. These guys are asses, and yeah, the girls should dump them but I'd say there's a significant number of women who've stayed longer than they should with some guy who was more of an asshole than they could believe. Might as well get on TV, get some free therapy, and possibly make some money out of it. I think most of the guys just want the prize at the end tho - the 100k, not the prize of turning into a real boy, I don't think they care about that part at ALL. Except Tiny Tool did cry in therapy because he wants to end up having kids with girlfriend, and is probably struggling with growing up and ditching the party lifestyle. I think that's what they are holding onto so strongly, the youthful party boy thing, instead of forming a real adult identity. I think I am overthinking this show - so glad I get to see what my jezzies think about it too!! This would be an awesome open thread when the next ep airs.
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PrettyPrettyPrincess
01/21/09

@PrettyPrettyPrincess: apologies for the rambling, I think it's bedtime :)
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PrettyPrettyPrincess
01/21/09

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I'm confused about one thing - IS the Tiny Tool actually having sex with a blowup doll? Because something made of synthetic material and air is more bendy than his girlfriend? I can't tell if he does it or just fantasizes about it. It sounded like he does, in which case he may actually have a fetish, if he is choosing to sex it up with the doll instead of supercute girlfriend.

My head hurts.
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rednrowdy
01/20/09

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as i watch this and am repulsed by it, there's a part of me that says to myself "70% of guys have this same conversation with their buddies, and not just meathead a**holes like this guy. guys that could be viewed as 'nice guys'. regular guys. professional guys. yeah, they all have this ridiculous f*cking conversation".

i hope all of the mothers of these males (i'll call them males because calling them men would be a compliment that they do not deserve nor have they earned) are real proud of their boys.
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Riff Randell, Rock 'n' Roller
01/20/09

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I, my scrambled egg sandwich, and my tub of peanut butter chocolate ice cream are all extending our middle fingers to these sorry excuses for assholes.
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anxietydepressant
01/20/09

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VH1 could have saved money spent on liquor and bird-of-paradise haircut maintenance by setting cameras up in a high school boys' locker room.
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anxietydepressant
01/20/09

@awhatsname: In regards to the level of discourse, I mean. Not that cable network cameras ought to probe high school lockers. Shit.
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penny_lane
01/21/09

@anxietydepressant: HAHAHAHAHAHA, with the rate reality TV is going, I wouldn't be surprised if that did happen.
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Rooo sez BISH PLZ
01/21/09

@penny_lane (will sing.her.life, moz): I was going to say. Don't give them ideas.
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DallasPath
01/20/09

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My husband watched the show with me this week and his insight was that these aren't the first girls these guys have been tools too and subsequently, they know what to say to get their butts out of trouble. He was incredulous at the therapy session...he couldn't believe the girls were able to believe a single word any of the guys had to say.
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PrettyPrettyPrincess
01/21/09

@DallasPath: Exactly - Shawn especially is terrible. He gets caught out and he just lies reflexively. He wants the 100K and that's it. Total douchebag
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Jack_Burton
01/21/09

@PrettyPrettyPrincess:

"He wants the 100K "

They give these useless meatbags money?

God does have a sense of humor.
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penny_lane
01/20/09

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okay, so i looked through all the threads to see if anyone had brought this up -- what is with the "cold-hearted tool"? he got axed this week, thankfully, but his gf is staying with him. i honestly believe this guy is a sociopath. he said many times he has "trained" his gf and treated her like crap during the dance challenge. his gf (i wish i could remember her name) admitted that he was "emotionally abusive." at the end of the show he was crying and promised to be better (although of course he said 5% of their problems were her fault, why did he have to say anything about it being her fault period?) but once again he's a sociopath so he's good at affecting such emotions. as they were driving away he said "thank god we're not as fucked up as some of those other couples." i would in fact disagree, cold-hearted tool. in fact, i see this relationship ending with your MURDER OF YOUR GF BECAUSE YOU ARE A PSYCHOPATH. even though you "trained" her to do the laundry, she may "mess up" one day and then what are you going to do?

/rant

i hate abusive men.
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midwesternmom
01/20/09

@penny_lane (will sing.her.life, moz): She broke my heart a little bit. She cried and emoted for the camera, but it seemed like something was a bit dead in her already. And I remember that she was the one who cut her hand last week and kept trying at the challenge because he was berating her. I agree, she is in for a world of pain if he keeps his promise to be with her forever.

VH1 sets up ways to contact the men--I wonder if we can contact the women. Maybe hearing a hundred voices say you are great but he will never be more than a jerk would help them.
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mllej
01/20/09

@penny_lane (will sing.her.life, moz): Yes, sociopath. That is the word. The man made my hair stand on end. He seems completely devoid of real emotion or empathy and someone in his gf's life needs to intervene.
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PrettyPrettyPrincess
01/21/09

@penny_lane (will sing.her.life, moz): That guy was downright evil. She even SAID he was emotionally abusive. He didn't even TRY to grow in his short time on the show. It just kills me because he is horrible to her, just horrible, and in the beginning she said if he failed she would leave him... I know that is easier said than done when you really love someone, but maybe she can at least WATCH the show and see how he looks from the outside? I think she needs some perspective, because that manipulative bastard will never give her a real relationship. You were right about his sociopathic bahavior.
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Hana Maru
01/21/09

@penny_lane (will sing.her.life, moz): He was abusive, you're right, and he didn't change at all. Ashley is the woman's name. She seems so broken down by him.
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whynotshesaid
01/21/09

@penny_lane (will sing.her.life, moz): That is so, so sad. My ex used to do that, he'd slap me around and call me names and then cry and promise he'd never do it again. Except he did it like six hundred times.

I hope she finds it in her to get the hell away from him.
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MsK
01/20/09

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When my 14 year old daughter and I were watching that, I told her that if she brought home a douche like these cretins, not only would I feel like I'd failed to teach her some self-respect, but I would kick his ass out of my house.

She just looked at me, and said, "Mom, no way would I date that. Uh-uh. Not good enough. Besides, do they even speak English? WTF is up with all this 'bro' shit?"

I love my kid....
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SomeAuthorGirl
01/20/09

@MsK: Mine is 5. I hope like hell I do as good a job as you have done!
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ALittleBitGothic
01/20/09

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At the end of every episode, the two biggest a-holes should have to enter Thunderdome.
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Topsyjane
01/20/09

@ALittleBitGothic: And given pugil sticks!
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Rooo sez BISH PLZ
01/21/09

@ALittleBitGothic: This.

Two men enter. No men leave.
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ALittleBitGothic
01/20/09

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Almost all of the guys I went to high school with acted and (holy shit indeed) LOOKED like these guys. That's why I didn't date and didn't really mind that I was assumed to be a lesbian.

I want to throttle them with their brodanas.
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PrettyPrettyPrincess
01/21/09

@ALittleBitGothic: I was blissfully sheltered from guys like this until I discovered college and fraternities, and even then, we only had a few. Sub-literate preening doofs, they are harmless and amusing as a drinking buddy but they are real hell on women who are trying to have an actual relationship with them.

(Harmless except of course for sociopath-boy, I think anyone drinking with him has to watch out for him slipping something extra in the drink)
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MarsyMars
01/20/09

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for all their tool-ness there are some genuine pearls of wisdom here.

"they all say 3"

It's kinda true....
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Topsyjane
01/20/09

@MarsyMars: Only because a guy's an idiot to ask that question of a ladyfriend.
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LocalStMary
01/20/09

@MarsyMars: Oh hell, I sleep with ex boyfriends to ensure my number doesn't go above three.

Reduce, Reuse, Recycle.
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jenalicious
01/20/09

@LocalStMary: ahahaaaa i did that for a while, then got bored. i guess i'm not very green..
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PrettyPrettyPrincess
01/21/09

@LocalStMary: Recycling is economical! And fun!

@Topsyjane: My bf asks me every once in a while. I don't even KNOW my number!! I remind him it's not a polite or pertinent question. I think he gets a perverse little kick out of the fact that I'm a bit more experienced. I've decided that's a good thing - just glad he doesn't feel threatened or weird about it.
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Topsyjane
01/21/09

@PrettyPrettyPrincess: There is NO RIGHT ANSWER to this question for the dudes that ask it. They won't believe 'one' if you're over the age of eighteen and aren't a sister-wife. If you say 'two' get ready for questions about how they compared with each other. So yes, three is the 'safe' answer. But then guys who actually care about numbers seem to always believe in double standards. Like a guy can sleep around with sluts as long as he wants, but wants to settle down with a 'good girl', who somehow performs any/all sex acts and variations like a porn actress. Such antiquated bullshit, really. 100 partners for a guy? He's a player! But a girl with 100 partners? Damn, she's a giant skanky whore! Screw that.

It's a guy's way of wanting to know if he is actually better than all the other guys you've been with, but it sounds too obviously insecure to just come right out and ask 'am I the guy that does It best of all? With the biggest dick'? I've usually talked around it, or said 'gee, I don't know, I'm really bad at advanced math' , or say somewhere between Emily Dickinson and Marilyn Chambers, or go way off subject with the minutia of different kinds of physical sexual expression (what about anal but no vag, does that count? Or BJs, but nothing else? Frottage? Household appliances? Phone sex? Practicing with your cousins?). I'm sure there's a non-hostile way to reassure a guy that you are with them NOW and that's all that matters. But I sure don't know it!
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Beat Girl
01/21/09

@LocalStMary: So when I tell people 25, I'm not giving out a good 'image'?!
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Nuckin Futz for you
01/21/09

@Topsyjane: I don't know I prefer to know if my guy has slept around and I have no problem letting him no mine. Mine may not be high but I do have at least one crazy/slightly embarrassing story and I prefer to get it out of the way.
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PrettyPrettyPrincess
01/21/09

@Topsyjane: you are right on all counts - i never say my number, because it's a lose-lose, and he actually does actually ask me if he's the best. I know he like most men has some insecurities but it irritates me because I try to avoid the question but he kind of presses the point... i mean, how do you even quantify that? Some guys are great at one thing and not so good at another. I hate the requisite ego-stroking. But maybe it's the equivalent of some reassurances that I expect in other areas of the relationship.
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amowls
01/20/09

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Thank God I don't find any one of these assholes even remotely attractive.

Douchey hair, douchey clothes, douchey tattoos, douchey muscles, just a whole room full of douche. And I feel sorry for their "girlfriends" (if they really do exist).
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penny_lane
01/20/09

@amowls: i would tend to agree but i find myself seeing a teensy bit of attractiveness in clarence and matsuflex. clarence has no potential whatsoever and is a horrid person so i feel guilty about that but besides the man panties and gross hair, i feel like matsuflex MAY be able to change and i don't feel so bad...
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Camdenqueen
01/20/09

haha, I also find matsuflex strangly attractive. It kind of depresses me. I think I must have terrible taste. @penny_lane (will sing.her.life, moz):
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PrettyPrettyPrincess
01/21/09

@Camdenqueen: He is physically attractive, and doesn't have the worst personality compared to his show-mates. He appears to have the IQ of a sponge, unfortunately, so I would consider him one-night stand material. Even though really narcissistic men usually make terrible lovers, sometimes they manage to get some things right by accident, and at least the scenery is super hot.
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Scout
01/20/09

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a few of the ladies on this show need to watch ALL of "Free to be You and Me"

seriously

ladies.....drop the tools and get on with your life

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