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    Image of DutchessOfDork DutchessOfDork
    11/12/09

    In reply to Jon Says TLC's Hands Should Be "Amputated" For Breaking Child Labor Laws
    They should really just say it.
    Mr Gosselin is a dumbshit who didn't read the contract, and wants martyrdom for doing his fucking job. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Jon Says TLC's Hands Should Be "Amputated" For Breaking Child Labor Laws
    Um... TLC's hands are laden with...heavy handedness? The mind boggles. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Jon Says TLC's Hands Should Be "Amputated" For Breaking Child Labor Laws
    You know, is he a douchebag? Yes. But the fact is the contract does appear to be designed to circumvent child labor laws and I'm sure this contract is similar to MANY reality show contracts that involve kids. It will be interesting to see how this is resolved.

    eta: I mean just see a couple posts up with the whole Nadya Suleman mess. I'd like to see these corporations (more than the parents) held accountable for the fact that they appear to be making millions off the backs of these kids.
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    Edited by bluebears at 11/12/09 5:13 PM bluebears was starred bluebears was unstarred
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    11/12/09

    @bluebears: Agree. Except for the small matter that Jon and Kate willingly entered into these contracts. They denied their kids personal payment as much as TLC did. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Jon Says TLC's Hands Should Be "Amputated" For Breaking Child Labor Laws
    Wow, this dude's douchebaggery knows no bounds. I look forward to seeing him make all of these wacky accusations in court, with Kate as the rebuttal witness to shoot him down. Let the judicial asskicking begin! #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Jon Says TLC's Hands Should Be "Amputated" For Breaking Child Labor Laws
    "Mr. Gosselin will be unable to earn a living as a television personality, and therefore be precluded from supporting his eight children, whereas [TLC] currently has its show on "indefinite hiatus."

    I would like to file a amicus curiae (who's with me!?) to ensure that Mr. Gosselin is incapable of becoming a television personality. I mean, what the fuck, Jon Gosselin? What exactly are you planning on doing other than continuing to act like an asshole on TV and make your kids hate you more than they already do. In addition to your children, NO ONE LIKES YOU. So, also note to the television stations...don't hire a "personality" that everyone hates. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    @JinxyMcDeath: I am already drafting an amicus curiae to ensure that Mr. Gosselin is incapable of becoming a human being. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    Image of EdnasEdibles EdnasEdibles
    11/12/09

    @JinxyMcDeath: Didn't he used to work in IT or something? Can't he do that? #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    @EdnasEdibles: Yea, exactly. I like how he's acting like he had this viable TV career prior to this and now it's all over because of TLC's evil contractual monopoly over his talent. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    @JinxyMcDeath:

    I have a great idea for a show:

    Z List Celebrity Deathmatch

    Jon v. Michael Lohan
    Jordan v. Pam Anderson
    Posh Spice v. a Krispy Kreme Doughnut #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    @JayBird: I was with you until Posh Spice. I happen to love me some Victoria. She's cheeky as fuck. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    @EdnasEdibles: Lighting. Stick him in the lighting rigs. No one cares about lighting. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Jon Says TLC's Hands Should Be "Amputated" For Breaking Child Labor Laws
    I don't know, they might have a good argument that the contract is unconscionable. I mean, did they take advantage of them? Are they insisting the show takes precedence in the kids life? That sounds pretty borderline. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    @bluebears:

    there's a very sloppy fatal flaw with Jon's argument: he's focusing on the original contract negotiated by the Gosselins with TLC; but when the Gosselins negotiated a new contract with TLC at a much later date the Gosselins were represented bya team of attorneys. Plus he got paid a lot of money per episode. Those Ed Hardy t-shirts dont come cheap! #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    Image of curiousgeorgiana curiousgeorgiana
    11/12/09

    @bluebears: My final writing assignment this year is on unconscionable contracts, so I love to see a more entertaining example of this while I sit here drowning in law review articles and 100 page opinions. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    @Oryx Hearts Crake: well there could still be an argument that the contract was unconscionable even if he was represented by counsel because of the demands on the kids. Unless those demands were only in the first contract as well.
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    Edited by bluebears at 11/12/09 4:52 PM bluebears was starred bluebears was unstarred
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    11/12/09

    @curiousgeorgiana: ugh, that sounds horrible. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    @bluebears: Excellent point. But I'm confused as to how Jon could argue he was stuck with an unconsionable contract when he was making so much money. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    @Oryx Hearts Crake: yeah its clear he's just going for the proverbial throat now that he's on the outs but the fact that he signed the contract wouldn't make he contract any less bullshit. What I wonder is what he'd be opening himself up to down the road by basically admitting he (and his attorney) conspired with TLC to circumvent child labor laws. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    @bluebears: I initially thought Jon's counterclaims were a joke but you bring up a good point: TLC was clearly trying to skirt child labor laws by sticking everything to the Gosselins. I think they'll end up settling out of court. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    @Oryx Hearts Crake: Thing is, initially "The Gosselins" were two adults and eight little rugrats who didn't know where they were or what a camera is. At what age does a child go from prop to actor?
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    11/12/09

    @BytheSea:

    I'm not sure but TLC definitely dropped the ball by just dumping the duty to comply with Pennsylvania's child labor laws on the Gosselins.

    They should've picked a family in Kentucky or West Virginia where anyone over the age of 10 can work 12 hour days. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    Image of emfish55 emfish55
    11/12/09

    In reply to Jon Says TLC's Hands Should Be "Amputated" For Breaking Child Labor Laws
    Wow. I had no idea. That I would learn something that would actually make me think less of the Gosselins than I already did.

    For serious, these people agreed to put their entire family on television, and allow their children's privacy and childhoods to be violated, for the initial paltry sum of $2,000 an episode?

    There's a difference between "unsophisticated" and "moronic" folks. I wonder what else we can get these folks to do for relatively small amounts of money... #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    Image of EkaterinaBallerina EkaterinaBallerina
    11/12/09

    In reply to Jon Says TLC's Hands Should Be "Amputated" For Breaking Child Labor Laws
    Wait--so he knew that TLC was violating child labor laws and did diddly-squat to stop them? Fucking father of the year here! He's clearly got his children's best interests at heart, right? This has nothing to do with being fired and losing his paycheck.

    Jon Gosselin seems to not understand what a parent is or does. TLC may very well be guilty of violating child labor laws but you know who's also guilty? The parents who did nothing to stop it. Total fail on the part of everyone involved. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    @EkaterinaBallerina: ITA. This is what hte child actor advocacy group A Minor Consideration exists for. The grups picked that contract so they could maximise the movey for themselves and control it. They set up trusts for the kids --- but they're some sort of open trust that the parents can still access. A Minor Consideration has advocated for laws that prevent parents from laying a finger on money child actors earn, and this contract with TLC totally side-stepped those laws. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Jon Says TLC's Hands Should Be "Amputated" For Breaking Child Labor Laws
    I LOVE IT THAT WE CAN WORK WHILE WE'RE ON COCAIIINE! #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Jon Says TLC's Hands Should Be "Amputated" For Breaking Child Labor Laws
    Ugh, look, I have no doubt that putting eight children in front of a camera for all the world to see their coming of age is probably not the best parenting strategy.

    But, apart from televised interviews to promote the show, is taping a reality TV program actually considered work? It's not like they were digging in coal mines all day. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    @lastsinglestanding: I think I'd be a lot more sympathetic to this lawsuit on child labor if I actually believed it was being done out of concern for his children's welfare and not just sour grapes on his part. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    @EIdnasEdibles: Yes, well, that too. I also like the part where he can't be on TV, so he can't earn a living. Boo hoo, Jon. Boo hoo. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    @lastsinglestanding: It is work. They can't go do their own thing, they can't go to friends' houses when the producers want a certain shot, and now according to Jon, they can't be involved in certain activities if they interfered with the shooting schedule. TLC also made them play down their religion on camera, like it was something to hide or be ashamed of. They aren't free to just be little kids, they have to be 'on' whenever the cameras are there. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Jon Says TLC's Hands Should Be "Amputated" For Breaking Child Labor Laws
    I've thought for a while now that what our justice system needs is a return to Hammurabi's Code. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Jon Says TLC's Hands Should Be "Amputated" For Breaking Child Labor Laws
    I still find it so ironic that he is accusing TLC of preventing him from hallmarking events in his family's life because they were paid to hallmark events in his family's life. Sorry you don't have a few photo albums of snapshots, dude. Perhaps when you and old and gray and your memory gets fuzzy you can just watch the DVDs? #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Lindsay Hates Her Dad; Tyson Punches A Paparazzo
    Hm, does Liz Hurley know red wine has loads of antiaging antioxidants that are very good for your heart and arteries? I think wodka (and other hard liquor) has far more bloating properties.
    And frankly, I enjoy a glass of cab too much to care about a bit of bloat around the stomach area. Life is more fun this way. #lindsaylohandad
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    11/12/09

    @BlondeGoddess: Well, the bloat may also be partly because a diet of six daily raisins, in which Liz has stated she indulges at least semi-frequently, can't be terribly alcohol-absorbent. #lindsaylohandad
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    Image of BlondeGoddess BlondeGoddess
    11/12/09

    @Rooo sez BISH PLZ: And isn't wodka made of potatoes, which are, gasp, made of carbs??!! #lindsaylohandad
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    11/12/09

    @BlondeGoddess: *gasp* OhNoez!!
    (Don't tell Liz. She'll sue.) #lindsaylohandad
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Lindsay Hates Her Dad; Tyson Punches A Paparazzo
    I'm really rooting for Tara Reid. No real reason, I just think she's had enough shit in her life. She deserves some happiness. #lindsaylohandad
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Lindsay Hates Her Dad; Tyson Punches A Paparazzo
    Good riddance to dollhouse, the concept was ludicrous and it just sounded awful.
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    Image of Miss Fanshawe, Explorer Miss Fanshawe, Explorer
    11/12/09

    @Ms Meghan: It is a highly uneven show, but there have been some amazing episodes. The later half of season one is full of dark and delightfully twisted moments, particularly the unaired "Epitaph One".

    At its core, it is a show about free will, what we can do vs. what we should do, corporate greed, human exploitation, and other gray shades of morality. However, it comes off as "what male sexual fantasy is Eliza Dushku going to fulfill this week" which I don't blame you for not finding appealing.
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    11/12/09

    @The_Fantastic_Miss_Fanshawe: Right, but the prostitution angle never sat well with me, and Whedon's reasoning of "I'm a feminist" sounds remarkably similar to "I have black friends." #lindsaylohandad
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    11/12/09

    @Ms Meghan: I loved his Firefly, but Dollhouse? No thank ye. #lindsaylohandad
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    11/12/09

    @Mrs. Stephen Fry: My friend wrote about the cancellation on facebook, and I pointed out that Firefly is the better canceled show. :-) #lindsaylohandad
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    11/12/09

    @Ms Meghan: Ah, yes, your knowledge of the show seems quite vast, what with not ever seeing it but knowing how it "sounds." #lindsaylohandad
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    11/12/09

    @Ms Meghan: Wow, try watching the show before you make a dumb generalization without anything to back it up with. It was actually HIGHLY against prostitution. The show was uneven, I'll give you that, but that had nothing to do with it essentially being about human trafficking. It's easy to criticize the show for being a 'what can Dusku dress up as next' but that was hardly the case. The times we actually see her with men, its displayed as perverse, creepy and generally unsettling. The most recent episode that aired addressed a doll who was placed into the dollhouse against her will by a man trying to control her. It was sad, highly fucked up and anything but glamorized. #lindsaylohandad
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    11/12/09

    @Alexis: @Chlamydiot:

    1. I am a big fan of a lot of the work Joss Whedon does.

    2. I find nothing appealing about watching something like Dollhouse, I don't watch Law and Order SVU for the same reason. I have issues watching the sexual exploitation of women, even if it's not real.

    3. My post came off much stronger online than it did in my head, so I'm sorry. #lindsaylohandad
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