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    Study Finds That Facial Recognition May Be Key To Understanding Racial Bias

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    Image of FourInchHeels FourInchHeels
    01/21/09

    In reply to Study Finds That Facial Recognition May Be Key To Understanding Racial Bias
    I call shenanigans on this - the fake words have a lot of bias just because of how they look! Malk looks like a negative word regardless of what face it follows. It looks like balk, and words that begin with 'mal' are negative words. That particular example sets people up to fail. Just like given the choice between saying this imaginary shape is round or angular, most people will say that 'boubas' is a round shape.


    Articles like this - [www.lexicon-branding.com] - suggest similarly.

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    Image of Rooo sez BISH PLZ Rooo sez BISH PLZ
    01/21/09

    In reply to Study Finds That Facial Recognition May Be Key To Understanding Racial Bias
    Hmmm. Piggybacking on that study from Harvard. An actual prospective solution. Actual progress.


    It also offers some insight as to why people are so compulsively driven to ask the heinously indelicate and clueless "What are you?"


    Doesn't give much clue as to how not to become intensely irritated when the obnoxious question is asked, though.


    Keep working, Brown.

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    Image of thesciencegirl thesciencegirl
    01/21/09

    @Rooo sez BISH PLZ: If I had a dollar for every time someone asked me "what are you?" I could go on a really nice vacation this weekend.
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    Image of Grim Reaper of the Forest Grim Reaper of the Forest
    01/21/09

    In reply to Study Finds That Facial Recognition May Be Key To Understanding Racial Bias
    I was watching an old movie last week (Where the Sidewalk Ends) and it was basically all white men. It was stressful to have to tell them all apart, especially since they were all wearing suits and trench coats.
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    Image of dj_chick dj_chick
    01/21/09

    In reply to Study Finds That Facial Recognition May Be Key To Understanding Racial Bias
    I've read that people of a certain race often have trouble telling people of another race apart, and that it can be a cause of racism. On the same note, I have a bitch of a time telling tan blonde chicks apart. ;)
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    Image of CloudsInMyCoffee CloudsInMyCoffee
    01/21/09

    @dj_chick: You know, I recently had a conversation with my roommate, who is Chinese, about that. We concluded that white people are less able to distinguish other races because we're not practiced in doing it within our own race due to all the mixing of ethnic groups. Asian folks, according to the roommie, are less integrated and therefore have more consistent facial and body characteristics.


    But tan blonde chicks... man, I don't know.

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    Image of PetiteGal PetiteGal
    01/21/09

    In reply to Study Finds That Facial Recognition May Be Key To Understanding Racial Bias
    The dudes on the right look sadder than the dudes on the left.
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    Image of badmutha badmutha
    01/21/09

    @PetiteGal: The dudes on the right have smaller eyes. You can see more of the white of the eyes on the left hand group.
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    Image of Pizza!Pizza!Pizza! Pizza!Pizza!Pizza!
    01/21/09

    In reply to Study Finds That Facial Recognition May Be Key To Understanding Racial Bias
    Could they have at least included hot guys in the study? i think every race is being seriously shafted here.
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    Image of Grim Reaper of the Forest Grim Reaper of the Forest
    01/21/09

    In reply to Study Finds That Facial Recognition May Be Key To Understanding Racial Bias
    I think I recognize clothes and voices more than faces. When I was mugged and the police took my statement an hour later, I could remember everything the guy was wearing, and how his hair was styled, but I was sure that if I some him later in different clothes and a hat on, I would never recognize him.
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    Image of blondespacyholly blondespacyholly
    01/21/09

    In reply to Study Finds That Facial Recognition May Be Key To Understanding Racial Bias
    I'm confused about how they determined a "positive" or "negative" reaction to the words. "Tree" doesn't have a positive or negative aspect to it-it's a tree. Or are we getting into deeper territory here, like trees are good because they're plants and part of Nature and all that? I just keep thinking how, if I was in that study, I'd be frustrated because the multiple choice questions didn't include option C: "neither positive nor negative."
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    Image of theysaidwhat theysaidwhat
    01/21/09

    @blondespacyholly: Basically, in the IAT (upon which this new study is based) you are asked to sort words and pictures into categories. The IAT only uses actual words, and those words are clearly defined as good or bad before you take the test. So you sort away first on the topic of the task (race, Sexual Orientations, etc.) Then on Good or Bad.


    Then the categories are paired for sorting: African American, for example with Good and Caucasian with Bad. Then you do it again with the pairing reversed: African American with Good and Caucasian with Bad. The variations in your speed in sorting the Paired Categories are really what the test is all about.

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    Image of stealthird stealthird
    01/21/09

    In reply to Study Finds That Facial Recognition May Be Key To Understanding Racial Bias
    How about they add it to the SATs?
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    Image of SharonTaint SharonTaint
    01/21/09

    In reply to Study Finds That Facial Recognition May Be Key To Understanding Racial Bias
    The dude on the lower right is kinda hot.
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    Image of hellosunshine hellosunshine
    01/22/09

    @SharonTaint: I know right? I focused on that too.
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    Image of randomnessish randomnessish
    01/21/09

    In reply to Study Finds That Facial Recognition May Be Key To Understanding Racial Bias
    Maybe, someday, yellow can be mellow, and the red man can get ahead, man.
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    Image of BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit) BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
    01/21/09

    @randomnessish: They call me mellow yellow. Quite rightly.
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    Image of Joyce Carol Hall and Oates Joyce Carol Hall and Oates
    01/21/09

    @randomnessish: and white will finally get it right.
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    Image of thesciencegirl thesciencegirl
    01/21/09

    @Joyce Carol Hall and Oates:



    at least, that's what all the right-wing bloggers are saying about that line.

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    Image of Joyce Carol Hall and Oates Joyce Carol Hall and Oates
    01/21/09

    @randomnessish: My coworker also noted that she hasn't heard a Native American referred to as "the red man" since she saw the Peter Pan Disney movie.
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    Image of BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit) BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
    01/21/09

    In reply to Study Finds That Facial Recognition May Be Key To Understanding Racial Bias
    Malk isn't a nonsense word. They serve it at Springfield Elementary.
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    Image of pandorasmittens pandorasmittens
    01/21/09

    @BrutallyHonestBabes: Along with Grade F meat, featured in these delectable dishes:


    Sloppy Jimbos

    Uderbraten

    Bart's Shorts

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    Image of stealthird stealthird
    01/21/09

    @BrutallyHonestBabes: That's the rat milk, right?
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    Image of Lazy Line Painter Jane Lazy Line Painter Jane
    01/21/09

    @BrutallyHonestBabes: yes! I was hoping someone else would know that! I believe the rat milk is not malk. I know that it does come via Fat Tony, though.
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    Image of Hana Maru Hana Maru
    01/21/09

    @BrutallyHonestBabes: Fortified with Vitamin R!
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    Image of Jamie Sommers Jamie Sommers
    01/21/09

    @BrutallyHonestBabes: Maybe they meant "Malkin" because there's a lot of nonsense coming out of that.
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    Image of pandorasmittens pandorasmittens
    01/21/09

    @Lazy Line Painter Jane: Malk was served with the gym mats in Treehouse of Horror, whereas Fat Tony supplied the rat milk. No wonder Springfield Elementary only has two students able to read at a fourth grade level: the brand of nutrition that comes from such things, not to mention deer hearts and grease traps, and buns "rich in bunly goodness" aren't exactly conducive to good mental development.
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    Image of vulcanized vulcanized
    01/21/09

    @pandorasmittens: There's very little meat in these gym mats!
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    Image of badmutha badmutha
    01/21/09

    In reply to Study Finds That Facial Recognition May Be Key To Understanding Racial Bias
    This sounds helpful, and oddly like the study discussed in the book "Blink."


    For a point of clarification, if someone is at high risk for exhibiting racial bias, does that mean they would do something that would be more positive for a white person over a person of color? Or does it mean they just might not help a person of color in the same way? Subtly different, but in a big way.

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    Image of Tara Incognita Tara Incognita
    01/21/09

    @badmutha: That study wigged me out. I wonder the same thing as you do. Because I can sit here and say 'til I'm blue in the face, "I judge everyone on the content of their respective characters" but would I save all the white kids in my classroom if there were a fire without realizing it? (That sounds awful, but you know what I mean. Like, am I more capable of actions that make me a liar?)
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    Image of badmutha badmutha
    01/21/09

    @Tara Incognita: It is an issue that I don't think is so clear cut, and it would take alot of training and self reflection to eradicate it.
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    Image of theysaidwhat theysaidwhat
    01/21/09

    @Tara Incognita: @badmutha: I think that's sort of the point of studying implicit associations--none of us is likely to be completely aware of all of our biases. So work like this can both help us to discover them and then study how to remedy such biases.
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    Image of junkyardarts junkyardarts
    01/21/09

    In reply to Study Finds That Facial Recognition May Be Key To Understanding Racial Bias
    im not sure what to think about this. on one hand...im confused how people couldnt decipher between nonexistant words and real ones...on the other, im confused how people couldnt tell one race from another...and how the two come together...


    but then again, im not a scientist...

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    Image of badmutha badmutha
    01/21/09

    @junkyardarts: It is just that they were interpreting non-existent words negatively after a black face, and not after a white face. Which meant they had ascribed negative aspects to the black face for some (possibly) unconcious reason.
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    Image of Nancy Sin Nancy Sin
    01/21/09

    In reply to Study Finds That Facial Recognition May Be Key To Understanding Racial Bias
    All this does is make me sad that some people still think all black/Asian/white people look the same.
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    Image of sportz.star sportz.star
    01/21/09

    @del_ruby: I'll have to find links to this, but it's not usually conscious. People have trouble recognizing subtle differentiations of facial features in people who are not of their own race and it's believed to be genetic, because certain areas of the brain recognize faces.


    On a quick search, this is sort of what I'm remembering: [www.ur.umich.edu]

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    Image of Kivrin Kivrin
    01/21/09

    @sportz.star: Exactly. We learn early in life to pay attention to features that help us differentiate among people and ignore those that don't. I can't remember what it's called right now, but it's something that happens automatically. Dammit, can't believe I forgot the word for it...
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