I've always lurked CH, but my new job (at a state university)started in September and if I knew that Harold the IT guy wasn't reading this, CH would be one of the few threads I'd safely attempt to comment on.
I worked at the library when I was in college, and the urge to peek at the records of my professors, high administration muckety mucks, girls I liked, etc. was pretty much irresistable. Not like you found out tons of info -- you saw what books they had out and their address, I think -- but it was a way to waste time behind the desk, and I feel no guilt about it. Another guy I worked with actually used the library computer to find the phone number of a patron he thought was cute and asked her out, which *is* creepy line-crossing. Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that, if I worked for Verizon or the State Dept., hell yeah I'd want to look up the records of famous people. But be cool about it, man.
Re: Hill for Sec. of State: I simply can't fathom why anyone with an independent power base and ambitions would want to be a cabinet secretary. If you do something great, you reflect well on the president, but if you screw up, you take the fall. I can see if you have some actual deep and abiding interest in or ideas about the department you'd head -- for instance, I get the feeling that Donald Rumsfeld was genuinely interested in running the military, even though he did such a shitty job -- but is it a real stepping stone, to anything? Maybe Hillary has some secret plan to solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that will earn her a Nobel consolation prize, but somehow I doubt it.
Ok, at the risk of drawing a lot of ire: I don't think Hillary should be SecState.
I think Hillary is an extraordinarily effective politician. I think she is a strong, loud, respected voice in the Senate. I think she is extremely well-versed in health care policy and legislation, education policy and legislation, and equal rights policy and legislation. I think she is okay with foreign affairs, and she is not -- I repeat is not -- anywhere near as adept with or nuanced in her understanding of foreign affairs and foreign policy. I really, really think that, with the next four years shaping up the way they are, we need Hillary's ability to really shape and push legislation in order to make Congress as effective as it needs to be to maintain and/or increase the Democratic majority in the legislative branch. I think we need her in the Congress and not in the White House.
I feel like when I say that, people skew it to mean I'm saying she's not qualified. I suppose she is, but I really think she'd be much better leading the Senate.
...hardly anyone still cares about politics enough to read about it?
It's been two years. Megan, Ana, I love you both: WE ARE TIRED.
Plus, do you have any idea how much trashy TV we've missed because of this election? I have to catch up on Gary Busey's epic... life on Celebrity Rehab! I mean, rilly.
OKAY. NO. I just listened to a full minute of that interview and she hasn't said anything of substance. I heard: great appreciation, great country, good Americans, great appreciation, great appreciation a DESIRE of our government. Seriously.
Also, you can totally tell she listens to her pastors- born-again evangelicals are always "desiring of the Lord" and she has transferred that to gov't- but without making an OUNCE OF SENSE.
I apologize, Megan and ana Marie, but life events took the wind out of my political sails, so lately have been turning increasingly to fictional escapism (see Wing, The West) in order to ignore the depressing turn my life has taken.
@NefariousNewt: She's jealous that she's not the one doing the killing. Every week and a half or so, she'll take off in the middle of the night, leaving Todd and the kids all alone.
"Why is mommy leaving?" Piper asked Todd mournfully one night, as she watched her mother disappear into the Alaska night wearing only pajamas, an amunition belt, a gun in a holdster, and snowshoes.
"Mommy is mommy," her father explained, "And when Mommy needs to kill, Mommy must go into the wilderness until she kills. It is the way of nature."
Oh, I love Crappy Hour, election or not. Megan and her various costars never fail to make me go "Heh heh." That's exactly how I sound when I laugh at this; it's a special Crappy Hour laugh- Heh heh.
@morninggloria: Arr! Seriously- did you read that Newsweek article? About how McCain became obsessed with the idea of being a pirate, hence the heh heh noises he made?
As to Obama's phone records being snooped on at Verizon: as one who works for a large telecom, I can say that that person is in a whole heap of trouble. I could theoretically look into customer records for information, but data access is tracker religiously. Only an idiot would think they could peek into Obama's mobile records and not be noticed.
And no, it wasn't a "hack" if it was done from behind the firewall.
@NefariousNewt: You are so right. I work for a bank and also have access to my company's payroll info. I never look at anything without a good reason. Also, after I am finished I "forget" anything I might have learned.
I suspect Ana Marie and Megan are more influnced by their journalistic genes so they can't really put themselves in the position of a regular employee. I used to have a similar outlook when I was an auditor. In that job nosiness was a positive and reading upside down was a skill I perfected.
@yellow_dog: At one job in the distant past, I actually stumbled across what I believed to be the email address of a high-ranking Bush official at the time. The temptation to make use of that knowledge was pretty powerful, but I managed to "forget" it. It takes an iron constitution to be able to work IT for major corporations where customer information is just a few well-written SQL queries away.
I'm still here. There are myriad topics to discuss. I admit, CH doesn't have the fire it did during the campaign, but isn't that really because we all need to take a breath? I mean, that campaign lasted almost two years from start-to-finish, and I don't know about anyone else, but Nov 5th was the start of a political hangover for me.
Y'know that turkey video wasn't all that bad. You really couldn't see much of anything because he was so far in the background. I just thought it was funny because the slaughterer kept turning and looking at the camera.
@Jamie Sommers: I didn't think it was so bad either, but they clearly blanked out the moments where the dying turkey was thrashing around. It's not offensive to me but I can't figure out why they didn't just shoot from another angle!
@Jamie Sommers: I'm with you that it wasn't that bad, but it also seemed just so unnecessary. And like a lack of planning. And then her talking about being so happy to be at the turkey farm while the turkey thrashed. Yikes.
@Jamie Sommers: At first, I thought it was Todd "Driller" Palin who was doing the slaughtering. I'd actually like to keep thinking that because it makes the video ten times funnier.
Reading about Dick Cheney's inability to die reminded me that just as every half hour sitcom eventually does a Wizard of Oz dream sequence episode, I think it's time for a Washington right now version. The two little Obama girls both get to be Dorothy, and their future puppy is Toto. In the outgoing administration, Dick Cheney, with his bloodless metal heart and tin ears, was the Tin Man (with Rahm as the possible Tin Man in Waiting), George W. Bush is the straw craniumed Scarecrow (Joe Biden lined up for that one), and Colin Powell the Cowardly Lion (Bill Richardson Hillary Clinton could possible succeed him). Obama is Glinda, the good witch of the north. Congress are the munchkins. Sarah Palin is the Wicked Witch of the West, and the Christian right are the flying monkeys.
And that's my precious childhood memory ruined by grown up problems moment of the day.
@morninggloria: I like your ideas and would like to hear more. Is the Appropriations Committee the Lollipop Guild? Wouldn't Obama be the Wizard and then Rahm as the "No one sees the Wizard" guy? Obama solves our problems in practical way while we all expect magic, is how I would see it.
@British Benzene: The ones we saw in the movie were just the Lollipop Guild's representatives. They weren't the actual Lollipop Guild; the Guild itself is so busy that it must send proxies to major events.
@rosasparks: I read it every day too. Sometimes, I will hold off on commenting on happy hour because it always takes a while for me to write out my thoughts in an intelligent, reasoned way, and I get caught up in work stuff...
@pantsless economist: I was very unproductive in the months prior to the election and got reamed for it at my annual review. Sorry Megan, I gotta keep this job.
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Re: Hill for Sec. of State: I simply can't fathom why anyone with an independent power base and ambitions would want to be a cabinet secretary. If you do something great, you reflect well on the president, but if you screw up, you take the fall. I can see if you have some actual deep and abiding interest in or ideas about the department you'd head -- for instance, I get the feeling that Donald Rumsfeld was genuinely interested in running the military, even though he did such a shitty job -- but is it a real stepping stone, to anything? Maybe Hillary has some secret plan to solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that will earn her a Nobel consolation prize, but somehow I doubt it.
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(This is why you only want me reading, not commenting.)
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I think Hillary is an extraordinarily effective politician. I think she is a strong, loud, respected voice in the Senate. I think she is extremely well-versed in health care policy and legislation, education policy and legislation, and equal rights policy and legislation. I think she is okay with foreign affairs, and she is not -- I repeat is not -- anywhere near as adept with or nuanced in her understanding of foreign affairs and foreign policy. I really, really think that, with the next four years shaping up the way they are, we need Hillary's ability to really shape and push legislation in order to make Congress as effective as it needs to be to maintain and/or increase the Democratic majority in the legislative branch. I think we need her in the Congress and not in the White House.
I feel like when I say that, people skew it to mean I'm saying she's not qualified. I suppose she is, but I really think she'd be much better leading the Senate.
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It's been two years. Megan, Ana, I love you both: WE ARE TIRED.
Plus, do you have any idea how much trashy TV we've missed because of this election? I have to catch up on Gary Busey's epic... life on Celebrity Rehab! I mean, rilly.
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I heard: great appreciation, great country, good Americans, great appreciation, great appreciation a DESIRE of our government.
Seriously.
Also, you can totally tell she listens to her pastors- born-again evangelicals are always "desiring of the Lord" and she has transferred that to gov't- but without making an OUNCE OF SENSE.
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/self-pity
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"Why is mommy leaving?" Piper asked Todd mournfully one night, as she watched her mother disappear into the Alaska night wearing only pajamas, an amunition belt, a gun in a holdster, and snowshoes.
"Mommy is mommy," her father explained, "And when Mommy needs to kill, Mommy must go into the wilderness until she kills. It is the way of nature."
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And no, it wasn't a "hack" if it was done from behind the firewall.
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I suspect Ana Marie and Megan are more influnced by their journalistic genes so they can't really put themselves in the position of a regular employee. I used to have a similar outlook when I was an auditor. In that job nosiness was a positive and reading upside down was a skill I perfected.
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And that's my precious childhood memory ruined by grown up problems moment of the day.
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I like Rachel Maddow as Glinda.
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The Supreme Court is the Lollipop Guild.
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I always read, though.
Also, I am super busy at work. I can't do my daily Jez dose like I used to. I actually have to WORK, bitches!
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