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    Is Kate Winslet Killing Feminist Pop Culture? And Other Non Sequiturs

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    04/29/09

    In reply to Is Kate Winslet Killing Feminist Pop Culture? And Other Non Sequiturs
    Thank you for this:

    "but we degrade the word feminist if we only apply it to things we like, and withhold it from things we find boring."


    Yes. I feel like trying to get other women, other feminist women to acknowledge this is one of the hardest battles I've tried to engage in. Thank you.

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    04/29/09

    In reply to Is Kate Winslet Killing Feminist Pop Culture? And Other Non Sequiturs
    This marks the death of feminism in pop culture. Long live zombie feminism!
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    04/29/09

    In reply to Is Kate Winslet Killing Feminist Pop Culture? And Other Non Sequiturs
    I need some help with the concept of Candace Bushnell being anti-feminist. Yes, I'm serious.


    I get that she pushed materialism, over-the-top pink femininity and a very third wave approach to sexuality, but none of that seems explicitly anti-feminist. Just maybe some of it is stuff we don't like.


    If some of her characters have been archetypes that are less than feminist, aren't some of them also representative of feminist ideals of equality in the workplace, the home and the bedroom? Samantha, I'm thinking of you.


    I'm not saying Candace Bushnell is actively feminist, but she did get mainstream female America discussing sex in a different way, and treated the question of whether or not a relationship should be central to a woman's happiness and a definition of her success (how successfully is up for debate).


    Thoughts?

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    04/29/09

    @JerseyGrrrl: She's not my personal cup of tea, but I'll back you on that 100%. She's made herself in the Helen Gurley Brown model, and that's a powerful place to be.
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    04/29/09

    @JerseyGrrrl: Samantha doesn't believe in equality - she's a frat boy with a vag. Also, her body is frequently abused in the TV show (I've only seen a few eps.) - one where she lets a journalist screw her at a party to make a point to her (ex?) boyfriend? Horrible.
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    04/29/09

    In reply to Is Kate Winslet Killing Feminist Pop Culture? And Other Non Sequiturs
    I thought the general consensus on The Reader was that Kate was really being rewarded for her body of work and not that particular role, which got very mixed reviews if I remember?


    I hate when people try to pin the downfall of whatever on one tiny incident.

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    04/29/09

    In reply to Is Kate Winslet Killing Feminist Pop Culture? And Other Non Sequiturs
    Is it just me or do people seem to think that feminists want nothing but perfect women in pop culture?


    'Cause I just want some variety, you know?

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    04/29/09

    In reply to Is Kate Winslet Killing Feminist Pop Culture? And Other Non Sequiturs
    "An unfunny line from Two and a Half Men "


    I thought all the lines on that show were unfunny.

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    04/29/09

    In reply to Is Kate Winslet Killing Feminist Pop Culture? And Other Non Sequiturs
    Last time I checked, the chromosomes create the plumbing, so there goes your artificial argument right there.
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    04/29/09

    In reply to Is Kate Winslet Killing Feminist Pop Culture? And Other Non Sequiturs
    Haha, a bit of Canadiana for y'all.


    Lynn Crosbie wrote a book called Paul's Case. In which she adopted the voices of Paul Bernardo's victims. (I refuse to cater to Americans, if you don't know who that is, Google it.) Then a columnist at the National Post named Christie Blatchford (who everyone in Canada hates) threatened to scratch her eyes out and all hell broke loose in the papers for a few days.


    In short, Lynn Crosbie is what we like to call a shit disturber. Not sure she actually thinks very hard about this stuff.

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    04/29/09

    @PilgrimSoul: I never knew about that book. But, even as an American, I do know who Paul Bernardo is. And that sounds like all kinds of attention-starved dreadful.
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    04/29/09

    In reply to Is Kate Winslet Killing Feminist Pop Culture? And Other Non Sequiturs
    I thought Ally MacBeal killed feminism? That's what Time said. Wait, no that was the Spice Girls (NY Times). Oh no, it was Bridget Jones's Diary that killed feminism (every book review ever). So many suspects!


    You guys, I have an idea for a board game. Clue, except instead of Mr. Boddy winding up dead, you have to figure out who strangled Feminism in the library with a sparkly "Porn Star" belly shirt.

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    04/29/09

    @Your Screenplay Sucks: Don't forget the stripper heels!


    Am I alone in thinking Bridget Jones's Diary was not actually all that anti-feminist? She's got good friends, a decent job, she seems to be relatively happy with her lot in life, and in the end she gets to bang Colin Firth.

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    04/29/09

    @sciencerules: Bridget Jones also had me recording my weight daily in a diary when I was 14.
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    04/29/09

    @Khrushchev: The thing about her weight is, if she's average height, she's actually really thin. At least in the american version. To me, that was one of the funnier parts of the book--all this fuss and nonsense over something that isn't even actually an issue.


    Maybe I'm defending something that's not actually defensible just because I like it.

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    04/29/09

    @Khrushchev: @sciencerules: I thought it was a kind of funny comment on what women become obsessed with in our culture. It's unfortunate if it led to obsession itself, but I think at the end when she decides to start a new diary with a different scope, it's kind of redeemed.
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    04/29/09

    In reply to Is Kate Winslet Killing Feminist Pop Culture? And Other Non Sequiturs
    Obsessed? Seriously? That movie sees Fatal Attraction's "crazy slutty lady" quotient and raises it a "crazy violent wife."


    Or so it would seem from the commercials.


    Feminist, my ass.

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    04/29/09

    @rocknrollunicorn: Ridiculous, yes, but definitely not doormats! I think it's a strike for equality when women can be as dumb-ass and violent as men. And I don't surrender my feminist membership card for enjoying it...at least I hope not.
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    04/29/09

    @TheLittlestChicken: No, but I don't surrender mine for seeing Sex and the City. I'm sorry but Obsessed looks like it plays to some of the worst stereotypes of women. I won't judge anyone for seeing it, but I will judge someone for name-dropping it as a better feminist option than The Reader.
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    04/29/09

    In reply to Is Kate Winslet Killing Feminist Pop Culture? And Other Non Sequiturs
    Finally, my love of BG is validated!
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    04/29/09

    In reply to Is Kate Winslet Killing Feminist Pop Culture? And Other Non Sequiturs
    Is there some kind of requirement that a random journalist publish an article on the theme of OMG THE DEATH OF FEMINISM like, every month? Is it just me or are there always articles like this?
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    04/29/09

    @HuckleberryFriend: When you die, don't you think it would be nice to be remembered every month, hmmm?
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    04/29/09

    In reply to Is Kate Winslet Killing Feminist Pop Culture? And Other Non Sequiturs
    Didn't pop culture put the "end" in feminism like eight years ago at least?
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    04/29/09

    @SarahMC: ball-cutting cybersuccubus: I think feminism died when Designing Women went off the air, though this is certainly not fact.
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    04/29/09

    @Samanthrax is Sarcastic: THAT'S why frogs fell from the sky that night.

    Lord, I love Dixie Carter.
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    04/29/09

    In reply to Is Kate Winslet Killing Feminist Pop Culture? And Other Non Sequiturs
    Anything that relies on "Two and a half men" wisdom of any kind involving gender relations has failed before it has even begun.
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    04/29/09

    In reply to Is Kate Winslet Killing Feminist Pop Culture? And Other Non Sequiturs
    This is far from being Lynn Crosbie's first inane column, but...what? Our junk and other reproductive elements cause the gender divide? The hell with Candace Bushnell; Crosbie needs some Moira Gatens. Jeepers.


    And I can all but guarantee that if she's watching Two and a Half Men for shits and giggles, the glorious Battlestar will not mesmerize.

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