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05/14/09
Also, what the hell? A collection of various quotes:
@topsy:
You're lucky to be Muslim. Folks around here will avoid jumping on Islam because they don't want to appear to be racist. .....
@topsy:
As a non-Muslim person I view most of what I know about Islam with horror. I only know a couple of Muslims and we seem to avoid discussing religion. My feelings are based on what I have seen and heard. My ignorance, if put into words and actions can cause Muslims pain, or worse. As a Muslim, wouldn't you want to speak out, defend your beliefs and try to give another side of the story?
@topsy:
But the constant ignorance about Catholics and Catholicism is really sad. When did this stop being a open-minded, tolerant site?
1. Yes, you've got my number. I avoid jumping all over Muslims simply to avoid "appearing" racist. That is insulting.
2. If what you know about Islam causes you to feel "horror", I suggest you buy a book. Because I think what you know about Islam is more about actions taken by people who are Islamic. Sort of like a sect of Catholicism that once upon a time denied the Holocaust. Sort of like that. Since you acknowledge assholes in your religion, perhaps you should be so generous to other religions.
3. Do not backhandedly call Muslims "horrible" and then try to be clever and say, you are ignorant, that all you know is what you have seen and heard. And of course, that your ignorance, if put into word and action, would cause a Muslim pain.
4. Yes, this is an open and pretty tolerant site. You, however, do not appear to be open nor tolerant. So I doubt you see it in others. You just attacked a Muslim man to make your point about how Catholics are attacked.
5. Yes, that is what you did. I get you will not see it that way. Nonetheless, that is how I read your comments.
05/14/09
Topsy and Trulymadlyme were posting back and forth to each other. You pulled things out of context.
Not cool.
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The photograph caption mentions the that the Pope was a member of the Hitler Youth. People talking about that and the then related Holocaust denial brou-ha-ha seems fairly legitimate. Granted, Catholics (not the Church, necessarily) have been put through the wringer in the last twenty years. However, I do believe people should be allowed to talk about the Church without being labeled anti-Catholic.
It's hard to take something out of context when I copy & paste almost the entire post.
I'm not picking a fight with you, but I read that whole thing a couple times. As I said, that is how I read the comments.
05/14/09
If the Church closed shop on all of its social programs and charities, the US would be in some trouble.
The fact of the matter is, despite its faults, if someone needs a home or a meal, they will most likely end up turning to the Church via soup kitchen or parish or the like for help.
05/14/09
To be accused of condoning child molestation or Holocaust denial (that's a new one) by people who have no idea what those issues mean to a Catholic hurts and makes me angry. That's what experiencing bigotry feels like.
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All the nuns I knew (went to 2 parochial schools) were warm, engaging & accessible. Some wore modernized habits, others wore khakis and sandals.
Nowadays every time I see a nun (or monk) I smile. Maybe I shouldn't treat them like they are unicorns.
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Every year of Catholic schooling = two years in therapy.
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Did it ever occur to you that there are other people out there who know just as much about Catholicism as you do (ie. not "outsiders"), but still have decided it deserves criticism? What's so wrong with voicing complaints? Are we just supposed to shut up and go along with what you and the Pope say because you said so? Please. This is exactly why I left the church.
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And in answer to your rant: are you serious? 'You and the Pope'. That was supposed to be funny right? Because to lump me together with the Pope is so unbelievably stupid that I can't believe anyone with any sense would say such a thing. I should laughing, right?
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You're pretty much excused from thinking about your hair or your face or your clothes, you're surrounded by other cool women all day, and you get to devote your life to helping other people. Plus you still get to drink.
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A potted plant and a 12 pack of Heineken would have been impossible to beat!
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I was about to be all for that.
My eyes - they deceive me.
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Flying Nun: Roger that, control, preparing for optimal wingspan.
(Nun spreads her arms, rockets off the launch pad, going "WHEE")
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From (the maybe unreliable) Wiki page:
Following his fourteenth birthday in 1941, Ratzinger was enrolled in the Hitler Youth, as membership was required for all 14-year old German boys after December 1939, but was an unenthusiastic member and refused to attend meetings.
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I'm not catholic, so I missed out on this. But I always respected the part of the Church that was committed to social justice.
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I think there is a huge difference from advocating that wars end and advocating against the specific practice of child soldiers, which he had been forced to be during WW2. I'm surprised the Catholic Church isn't using the Pope's experience as a means of ending this practice and bringing those severely abused children into the church (and its immense resources that are used for development and ending poverty).
Like I said, I always thought the social justice aspect of the Catholic Church was great.
05/12/09
Or, in the words of the Tanakh (Jewish scriptures): "He has told you, oh man, what is good and what the Lord requires of you: Only to do justice and to love goodness and to walk modestly with your God." - Micah 6:8; and this: "Seek peace, and pursue it." - Psalms 34:14
Or, in the words of President Obama's Special Envoy, George Mitchell: "Conflicts are created by human beings, and can be ended by human beings. "