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The HZA.
05/20/09

In reply to Kathy Griffin: Heidi Montag Is A "Dumbass"
Dodai, can we have a clip of Craig everyday? Pleaseeee?
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spryte
05/20/09

@The HZA. [member of the zombie nation]: SERIOUSLY. OMG I love him. I almost had a heart attack the last time he had Hugh Laurie on the show - too much hotness to take, even just on the TV screen.
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Ultraprison!
05/21/09

@The HZA. [member of the zombie nation]: Clip of Kathy every day! Clip of Kathy!
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MarissaExplainsItAll
05/20/09

In reply to Kathy Griffin: Heidi Montag Is A "Dumbass"
I have to do that at the next party I attend. I love Kathy.
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Lazy Line Painter Jane
05/20/09

In reply to Kathy Griffin: Heidi Montag Is A "Dumbass"
I'm so excited for "My Life on the D-List" coming back! Kathy is one of the only reality show people where i forget that I am not actually friends with her and she doesn't know me at all. When they had her as a "best beach body" in one of the tabloids recently, I felt the urge to call her and congratulate her like some sort of psycho fan. Also, when her dad died on the show, I absolutely cried. Ah, kathy!
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PhillyLass
05/20/09

@Lazy Line Painter Jane: Word. I can't wait to see what her mom is up to these days too. And I also cried when she lost her dad-- when she left a picture of him in the pub--- blubbertime!
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mannequin
05/20/09

In reply to Kathy Griffin: Heidi Montag Is A "Dumbass"
I love Kathy Griffin. I'm trying to slip her into my college essay. It's all about my feminist heroes.
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Ultraprison!
05/21/09

@carolyn583153: To quote a mutual icon of mine & Kathy's: Make it work.

(Yes, I talk about her like I'm really friends with her, what of it?)
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megscissorhands
05/20/09

In reply to Kathy Griffin: Heidi Montag Is A "Dumbass"
God knows my empathy is wasted on Spencer and Heidi, but this (i.e., Kathy Griffin calling Heidi a moron and a dumbass) rubs me the wrong way. It's just picking on someone, particularly someone who gets piled on continually, and on national television no less. Maybe Heidi's vapidity is annoying, but she certainly doesn't deserve this kind of unmitigated ire--especially when Griffin admits she was perfectly nice to her. To me, Kathy's comments were neither funny nor amusing, just unkind.

Alright, alright, flame away.
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Cher_Horowitz
05/20/09

@megscissorhands: I see what you're saying, but I would contend that Heidi and Spencer have gone out of their way to get in the spotlight; in fact, the way they've really become famous is to flaunt their vapidness and materialism. I understand your sympathy for them, but I think that they've really left themselves wide open for this kind of criticism. It's not as though the pair has given much evidence to refute Kathy's point - in fact, I'd say that their public personas kind of warrant these types of comments. Of course, I happen to love Kathy Griffin and loathe Heidi and Spencer (given the very very little I know about them; I don't even watch "The Hills"), so I man not be the most objective voice in the room. :)
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Scout
05/20/09

@megscissorhands: I just shot you with a flame thrower.....in a friendly sort of way
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Laulau
05/20/09

@megscissorhands: No, no, I had the same reaction, but objectively speaking I think Heidi and Spencer are poster children for the grossness that is reality television and people who are famous for being famous. Not to mention Spencer seems controlling and abusive. I think it was just because Kathy Griffin's normal targets are legitimately famous, wealthy, and usually a tad older than 21 or whatever they are. I think that if I had watched this clip right next to a clip of Heidi and Spencer (my body viscerally rejects attempts even to type "Speidi") that my sympathy for them would vanish on the spot.
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megscissorhands
05/20/09

@Cher_Horowitz: eh, I guess anyone famous invites a certain amount of public criticism just by the nature of their work, but I felt like Kathy's specific insults (wearing high-heeled sneakers=DUMBASS!!) were simply unfounded. High-heeled sneakers are weird in my opinion too, but it's just a shoe. And it's not like Heidi invented them.

Also, if people really hate what Spencer & Heidi stand for (mindless fame-whoring) then they ought to stop talking about them. It mind-boggles me a bit that Griffin is appearing on a late-night talk show to promote her own rather nebulous celebrity, in part by making jokes at the expense of another couple who do relatively the same thing (granted, without her charm and wit)! Self-awareness: she's doing it wrong.
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Cher_Horowitz
05/20/09

@megscissorhands: I totally see what you mean, and I guess that the only way that I can justify my reaction is to say that my exposure to Kathy Griffith has led me to believe that she is smart, funny, and very self-aware; Spencer and Heidi are also obviously also self-aware, but lack the irony of Griffith. And therefore I appreciate Griffith's take on celebrity more than I value Speidi's, and can laugh at her take on the reality of celebrity. Does that makes sense?
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megscissorhands
05/20/09

@Cher_Horowitz: Yes, it definitely does. I should state that I have had very, very little exposure to Kathy Griffith and would probably be more biased in her favor if I had.
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Cher_Horowitz
05/21/09

@megscissorhands: Just so you know, I hearted you due to an excellent discussion. Who said that civility is dead on the internet?
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megscissorhands
05/21/09

@Cher_Horowitz: aww, you're sweet =).
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Penny
05/20/09

In reply to Kathy Griffin: Heidi Montag Is A "Dumbass"
Preppy Murderer. THANK YOU, I've been trying to pinpoint his ju-ju, and this is spot on.
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Mmmmkay (gellin' and Jezebelin)
05/20/09

@Penny: He should play the Craiglist Killer in the Lifetime movie version.
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Bunsen Honeydew
05/20/09

In reply to Kathy Griffin: Heidi Montag Is A "Dumbass"
I really wish I was this woman.
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jeepgirl
05/20/09

In reply to Kathy Griffin: Heidi Montag Is A "Dumbass"
I love her - she's looking terrific lately. Don't know what she's done, but it's working.

Is she dating anyone?
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schlegs84
05/20/09

@jeepgirl...is on Wit's End Road: I'm not sure... I loved when she was dating Woz. Her material on their relationship was classic!
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brendahamLincoln
05/20/09

@schlegs84 thinks John Galt can suck it.: I loved all of her fake-dates that she went on just to get into the tabloids. My favorite might be Andrew WK but that's probably because I want to go on a real date with him.
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Fridge Hussy : Is finally heading back to uni!
05/20/09

In reply to Kathy Griffin: Heidi Montag Is A "Dumbass"
I adore them both. He is the much older Scottish gentleman friend of my dreams. Kathy Griffin just seems like an ace person to just sit around and talk shit with!
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FashionShowAtLunch
05/20/09

@Fridge Hussy : Das Tigerbaby: I love that you just "ace" as a verb.

And Craig Ferguson and I are having tea next week; you're invited.
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cellardoor
05/21/09

@FashionShowAtLunch: ace as adjective
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FashionShowAtLunch
05/21/09

@cellardoor: ha! thanks. that's what I get for being on Jezebel past my bedtime.

and I was an English major. pathetic.
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Cher_Horowitz
05/20/09

In reply to Kathy Griffin: Heidi Montag Is A "Dumbass"
OK, I love the idea of Spencer as a "preppy murderer." It's just so right. I feel like he'd be cast in a remake of "American Psycho" entitled "The Rise of Patrick Fakeman."
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maneki neko
05/20/09

@Cher_Horowitz: Yeah, pretty much. He's got a lot of Bateman-esque characteristics.
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lolacat
05/20/09

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hortense
05/20/09

@lolacat (aka Bob Graham's scalp medication): That's actually WAY off topic. Sorry.
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lolacat
05/20/09

@hortense: Sorry. Kathy Griffin is a huge perpetrator of this as well. I'll do better.
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Gingerlime
05/20/09

@lolacat (aka Bob Graham's scalp medication): Go wander off in search of your vowels.
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Green Goth Brit Chick - AlternatEve
05/20/09

@Gingerlime: It's called disemvowelling and is the moderation method of choice. Hover over the little A on the original comment.
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Snowbunny
05/20/09

@Green Goth Brit Chick - AlternatEve: Whenever I see something disemvowelled I spend a ton of time trying to figure out what it says until I realize that dwelling on the original comment is the opposite effect hortense had in mind.
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greengrey
05/20/09

In reply to Kathy Griffin: Heidi Montag Is A "Dumbass"
I can't look at her without thinking TIP IT!

Give her mom a show!
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BabyJane
05/20/09

@greengrey: The Franzia's getting low in her (mom's) box o' wine.

I love Kathy and her mum, but I miss her dad!
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The HZA.
04/28/09

In reply to Great Scot! Paul McCartney Looks Like Angela Lansbury
I hope these two get a show together. And they can chat about all sorts of random things. And I want it on in the morning, so we can all have a happy day.
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Slovenly Muse
04/28/09

In reply to Great Scot! Paul McCartney Looks Like Angela Lansbury
Anyone else think Drew Barrymore looks a hell of a lot like Stephen Fry? It's uncanny!

Oh, Shirley Manson, I love you so. There had BETTER be another season of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles or I will have to send my army of unstoppable killing machines from the future to personally express my disappointment in the FOX network execs.
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LouisiAnna
04/28/09

@Slovenly Muse: Both Fry and Barrymore have pinched yet adorable faces, so I see what you mean.
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la.donna.pietra
04/28/09

@Slovenly Muse: While you're at it, can you send the unstoppable killing machines back a few years and have them coerce FOX into not cancelling Firefly?
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Slovenly Muse
04/28/09

@la.donna.pietra: I was actually thinking I might just send the unstoppable killing machines back in time to prevent the FOX execs from ever taking power, instead ensuring that those jobs are filled by intelligent, sci-fi-loving geeks. Reality TV fans would be pretty disappointed, but I think it'd be worth it.

Just as soon as I perfect the time machine...
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Slovenly Muse
04/28/09

@LouisiAnna: They have EXACTLY the same smirk! Whenever I watch either of them, I can't stop thinking about it.

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JessicaLovejoy: Laughing, riding, cornholing!
04/28/09

In reply to Great Scot! Paul McCartney Looks Like Angela Lansbury
He's been doing that gag for over a year. Still love it, though.
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