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SharonTaint
07/13/09

In reply to JOOP: Your Guide To Not Feeling Bad About Relaxing And Enjoying Life
It's getting harder and harder for me to hate on Gwyneth because she's so obviously mentally disturbed/eating disordered.

That said, she's the only living person who can go to Spain with Mario Batali and not eat ham, for which I cannot forgive her.

Hortense, I love your list.
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LaComtesse
07/12/09

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I feel like I should thank Ms. Paltrow. After reading that quote the other day juxtaposing enjoying life to starving oneself, it made me realize just how stupid counting every calorie can be and I've tried to be reasonable, yet less exacting upon myself in the past couple days. It's given me a much needed fresh perspective.
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tiredfairy
07/12/09

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This. So much. Ive recently started seeing a nutritionist who specializes in working with people like myself who have ED's or disordered eating.

It has been hugely enlightening, and difficult, but worthwhile. According to her, there are no "moral" foods, and any food is part of any diet. This is revelatory to me. And I suspect it would be to a lot of other people.
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blueMandM
07/12/09

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I was a cake girl all the way, until I had apple pie with melted cheese and vanilla ice cream on top. So I cheat on cake sometimes.
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scandalouskiki
07/12/09

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Thanks, Hortense. I'd much rather do the JOOP thing than the GOOP thing any day. :)
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sequined
07/12/09

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Hortense, you forgot to give me the calorie counts of all my favorite foods! Silly mistake.
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BabyJane
07/12/09

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Hortense, not to self promote, but if you are looking for a deal, I would encourage you to visit my eBay store Unicorns n' Stuff.

I can hook you up with some gently used unicorns that have been kept in a smoke-free house. I also offer free shipping on orders over $100 dollars.
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bluebears
07/12/09

@BabyJane: Hortense, do NOT be taken in. I ordered a gently used Unicorn from Baby Jane's ebay store a month ago. It STILL has not arrived and she has been ignoring my persistent emails.
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nessalicious
07/12/09

@bluebears: I got mine and it was just a mangey pony with a half melted ice-cream cone stuck to its head.
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bluebears
07/12/09

@nessalicious: aw MAN! the worst part? The Unicorn was going to be an integral part of a powerpoint presentation I'm giving at work next week.
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BabyJane
07/12/09

@nessalicious: I offered you an upgrade for an additional $22.95 and a coupon towards your next purchase!
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BabyJane
07/12/09

@nessalicious: I offered you an upgrade for an additional $22.95 and a coupon towards your next purchase!
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BabyJane
07/12/09

@bluebears: Check your tracking number. It's been shipped.
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bluebears
07/12/09

@BabyJane: too late. I've already left negative feedback. nyah.
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mbot says Spock yeah!
07/12/09

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Pie can be legit healthy, yo! Pumpkin, blueberries, raspberries, strawberries, cinnamon-- those things are good for you! Plus a little butter for the soul.
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graceful_gamine
07/13/09

@mbot says Spock yeah!: actually, i've been reading some stuff that argues that butter is healthy. suck on that transfat!
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elvis_is_everywhere
07/12/09

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Can I do JOOP if I've been going through a majorly annoying and depressing 'worry and stress about work, money and health phase' for quite some time?

And what about cookies instead of cake? 'Cause I stocked up on butter when it was on sale a few months ago. It's expiring at the end of July, so I was thinking of making many dozens of cookies and sharing the love with my friends. Maybe I'll incorporate the unicorn thing and make cookies with rainbows in them (aka M&Ms)!

Help me Jezebel, you're my only hope!
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mbot says Spock yeah!
07/12/09

@elvis_is_everywhere: I recently stocked up on half price bacon. Together, we would be dangerous(ly delicious!).
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Saltine
07/12/09

@elvis_is_everywhere: If you toss any butter that wont be used in at least a day in the freezer it will last quite a bit longer
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elvis_is_everywhere
07/12/09

@mbot says Spock yeah!: Times are tough. It's important to stock up on essentials! Like butter and bacon.
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elvis_is_everywhere
07/12/09

@Saltine: Thanks for the tip! I forgot that you can freeze butter.
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Penny
07/12/09

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I love this. But, I also didn't really understand the big hoopla about her detox. Yeah, her priorities are kind of messed up (like almost everyone I know) and she is a disordered eater (like 90% of the people I know).

I agree with Bluebears, be happy and try to keep things in perspective and ENJOY all the things you love.

Also, I have no clue where this cake/pie debate originated from, but I am in the cake camp. Like, hella.
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sara-without-an-h
07/12/09

@Penny: I feel uncomfortable with the idea of "detox". Our bodies detox naturally. If someone wants to cut out alcohol or coffee for some time because their skin looks tired or some other reason, I don't think it qualifies as a detox.

Also her description of feeling light and blissful because she's only eating one meal a day is quite reminiscent of ED symptoms. This Goop tidbit belongs to a conversation with her friends, not as a lifestyle recommendation.

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cmd
07/12/09

@Penny: TEAM PIE.
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Saltine
07/12/09

@Penny: Well cake is obviously superior. Buttercream and chocolate and raspberries... Especially because pies often have very disappointing crusts.
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takeitasred
07/12/09

@cmd: FOR THINE IS THE KINGDOM, THE PIE AND THE GLORY, FOREVER AND EVER A'MEN.

(me too.)
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Bunsen Honeydew
07/12/09

@Penny: Speaking for myself, I find these detox things everyone talks about triggering. Like, the bad behavior I worked so hard to remove from my life is now renamed and marketed as a hip new thing? But that's just me and I could be over sensitive. I'm going to go eat cake.
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Bunsen Honeydew
07/12/09

@Penny: Speaking for myself, I find her talk, and basically all of this trendy talk about detoxing really triggering. It's like the bad behavior I was exhibiting and worked really hard to correct is now being promoted as a hip new thing. But that's just me, not necessarily a group consensus sort of deal.
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pmarble
07/12/09

@Penny: the hoopla is (a) that she's already very thin, so the notion of her having to subsist only on juices for three weeks just makes women feel as if they need to chase the tiger tail of perfection even more intently; and (b) that detoxes are a really unhealthy way to lose weight and are unsustainable, so they encourage the self-hating masochist that exists in most women.
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Penny
07/12/09

@all: Okay, as someone who has struggled with eating problems since the age of 13, I get that it's potentially triggering. Kind of like a lot of other shit, including stuff on this website. And, no, I am sorry, detoxes are not all unhealthy. Just because the word has been appropriated by a few dumbasses does not make it so--as I said somewhere else in this thread, the spectrum of detoxing is quite large. I just find it kind of funny that you all go on and on about how ridiculous her newsletter is. If you're not into it, don't read it.

Perhaps I just think of detoxing differently than most. I think it can be fine, given how it's done. Then again, I don't think of them as a way to lose weight.
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online persona
07/12/09

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When I saw this edition of GOOP in my inbox, I was like, "Really? Detox? Again?" I feel like she writes about this topic so much, and I think I am going to unsubscribe because of it. When it all boils down, these newsletters are nothing more than straight-up thinspiration.
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takeitasred
07/12/09

@online persona: I think a "detox" (the kind that involves changing your diet, not coming off of drugs or alcohol) is a good way to make yourself sick. I'm no doctor, but logically, anytime you change your diet drastically, it will take you some time to get used to it, especially if you are reducing your nutritional intake to a level that, in the long term, would be considered starvation levels. I'm not talking about reasonable switches to healthier eating, but crazy schemes where you mostly eat one type of food, but barely any food at all.
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Sodypop
07/12/09

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Ok, as someone that went thru 8 months of Lexapro, Xanax and sleeping pills plus a weight gain of 20 pound in that short period, I can tell if I did not detox, I don't know how long my withdraws side effects would have last once I stopped taking the pills. It was the most horrible feelings. My dr. told me to just ride them out. So, I detox and within days I was feeling much better. I also started doing yoga, plus meditation which it helped me with my panic attacks. That is just my personal experience.

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Isi
07/12/09

@Sodypop: But you also may have had exactly the same effects coming off the meds as if you hadn't done a specific "detox" thing. Without any sort of control, it's hard to say how much it helped withdrawal or even if it did help.
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Penny
07/12/09

@Sodypop: Detoxing is not a bad word, or a bad thing. And, there are a gazillion types of detox programs. In my opinion, if you work with a doctor, you're okay. Or, if you want to stop drinking for a week, that's cool. Grapefruit for a month? Maybe not.
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Sodypop
07/12/09

@Isi: I had withdrawals for about week, hardcore. Then, I went back to take lexapro, then I started again like 1 days on, two days off. So I guess, it was about a month that I tried to get off. Then this person told me about some kind of detox (this without knowing about my meds) and I decided to try it. I was feeling better within two day or so. I was able to stop taking the pills completely. BTW, I was only on .5 per day.
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Sodypop
07/12/09

@Penny: I agree. I think people hear detox and freak out about it; there are many people that call their lack of eating properly a detox, but I believe there are really good programs out there.
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bluebears
07/12/09

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Honestly. BE HAPPY. Thats the best advice anyone can give. Enjoy your life the best you can. Not to be morbid, but who knows what's coming around the corner for you.

This all just makes me feel sad for GP.
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Dodgergirl
07/12/09

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Oh! I have another suggestion. If you DO get a unicorn, be sure to eat the rainbows! It made sound gross in theory, but it's 1) environmentally friendly, 2) more filling than a detox diet, and 3) low in fat, calories, AND vitamins! Also, rainbows are delicious in both cake and pie form.
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mepo - Robert Cornhole invented it
07/12/09

@Dodgergirl: I hear rainbows are negative calories.
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BabyJane
07/12/09

@Dodgergirl: Replacing my regular breakfast with a breakfast of rainbows reduced my cholesterol by 20 points in the span of three months.
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Penny
07/12/09

@mepo - Robert Cornhole invented it: Yeah, like celery.
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sympathyforthebasementcat
07/12/09

@Dodgergirl: Taste the rainbow.
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JinxyMcDeath
07/12/09

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I tried Alli for about 2 months and it was horrifying. Do not want. I realized this very quickly - if I wanted to lose weight, I was going to have to do it by moderation and exercise. And I did. It's THAT EASY. I still eat what I want...but just not everyday. And I don't starve myself. I just found things that I enjoyed stuffing my face with - like toasted walnuts and skinny cow chocolate cones.

What I am most disturbed by, is the fact that Ms. Paltrow is already quite svelte and doesn't need to go on a liquid fast for 3 week because she finally gave in an ate a piece of cheesecake - nor does anyone, svelte or not. I am very uncomfortable with the fact that she is clearly suffering from some body perception issues and yet feels the need to give advice on these things.
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