My favorite incident along these lines happened years ago, at an urban burger joint's walk-up window, late in the evening. One high-school-aged girl brushed by another, the second of whom was deep in conversation with her friends. The girl who had been brushed--not even enough to have lost her footing--turned to the first girl and shrieked, "SAY EXCUSE ME, BITCH! AIN'T YOU GOT NO MOTHERFUCKIN' MANNERS?" Then she turned back to her friends and resumed conversing as if nothing had happened.
Why only today TWICE I saw cars with no handicapped plates or placards park in handicapped spots. I'm very mature these days- I merely utter a sincere prayer that the offenders will someday be as physically handicapped as they are morally....
@drunken marmot: Call the cops on 'em. It's a ticketable offense. I loathe when I see clearly able bodied people take up the one or two handicapped spots available. That is the epitome of uncivilness.
Well, I think all this proves that we should in all circumstances assume that all the people we encounter every day are certifiably insane and should be confined to mental asylums and are possibly dangerous to themselves and others and never, ever to make eye contact or upset any of them in any way at all and assume they're all potentially armed with at least nail scissors and keep an arm's length distance away from all of them. Everybody's a suspect. Not that I'm trying to be servicey or anything, but this might be the truth, who knows.
As a former waitress, I am guilty of this sin many times over. If I take great care of you, get you 17 free refills and put up with you all night, yes, you owe me a thank you -- and if you don't, you're getting a cut "you're welcome" at the end of the night.
This exact thing happened to me on City Island. My parents and I were entering a coffee shop and evidently we didn't say thank you quickly enough to the old bat who held the door open. She schooled us in the correct etiquette. It totally ruined my mood!
Thank you for your ALL CAPS RANT. I'm going to copy and paste it and remember it and memorize it for future use.
Older people are always giving me shit. I think it's because I look younger than I am. I get sick of it. Once this lady told me that it was rude to take so long picking out berries. I proceeded to tell her how rude it was to tell people they are rude.
Meh. None of this applies to me. I do not expect anyone to be polite where I'm from. But I do expect them to yell at me on the street, and I do yell at them on the street. I also expect them to cut in line. But I also cut in line.
Does anyone else live in NYC? What freaks me out is the opposite right now. People usually go bashing, crashing, pushing each other around on the sidewalk, muttering obscenities under their breath about the other person, especially during rush hour.
But now? I barely brush against someone -- and we both say "sorry" at exactly the same time.
This happened three times yesterday.
Is it the recession? The swine flu?
(Yes, clearly I am a klutz who rushes everywhere, but besides that.)
Do people feel another oncoming disaster, or are we in the midst of it and people just don't know when it will end? Because (anyone remember the August blackout?) that seems to be the only time people are nice to each other.
@Rooo sez BISH PLZ: I don't know New Yorkers have always seemed much more polite to me than Londoners, I find it very refreshing living here although you do all walk far too slowly down the streets which is irritating. That said you probably have a point and the end of the world is coming.
@rhymenoceros: Holla midwest. I was born there, but when I was there people made fun of me. They said I should just move back to where I was from when I was an embryo. So I did. ('Cause you want to talk about some passive aggressive courtesy? Midwest, it haz it.)
@greengrey: Finally some good from all that TV we're watching in the off hours.
@emilyanne: I'm not sure it's us walking too slowly down the streets; my experience is that it's always the visiting tourists from Seattle or Dallas. When I'm trying to get somewhere during rush hour.
That said, if I'm slow, perhaps I need some aerobic training before coming to London, because usually when any of my relatives visit me they are always asking me to slow down.
(I've read the EOTW is coming in 2012. Can it be after Wimbledon, do you think?)
@Rooo sez BISH PLZ: Sorry to burst your rough edge bubble, but NYCers are some of the nicest, most polite and openly and freely friendly people I have ever met.
A frikkin' breath of fresh air, compared to Germans (downright rude) and Californians (fake), even Southerners (merely well trained).
@Sweet Camote loves you dearly: Yeah, I've never really experienced many rude people in NYC. I'll admit I can get huffy with the tourists that block the sidewalk right outside my school so I supposed that makes me guilty of being somewhat rude at times (not that I curse them off or anything, sometimes I might glare if I'm cranky), but other than that, everyone is chill, down to earth, and polite.
Sometimes, I sarcastically say "you're welcome," but it's because I am so sick of being treated rudely in public. And I always wait more than long enough on the few occasions that I do this.
I'm sick of being treated like a doormat, and it seems that the occasional snippy response is my only comeback.
The other day, after leaving a public restroom at a restaurant, the next woman glared at me and said "yay" in the most sarcastic voice possible. I get that there was a long line, but I don't get why she took that out on me :-(
I nearly always wait an extra beat or two to hold open the door for someone else.
When someone signals the intent to change lanes, I reduce speed to accommodate.
But if you're rude to me because you're on a cell phone, and can't be bothered to have the least courtesy for those surrounding you, then I will become a part of that conversation.
@Jack_Burton: But if you're rude to me because you're on a cell phone, and can't be bothered to have the least courtesy for those surrounding you, then I will become a part of that conversation.
I LOVE the scenarios this creates in my mind. Me: "It's syphillis." Cell Phone Person: "What?" Me: "That rash you're describing. Sounds like syphillis. You should it get checked out." CPP: "I'm talking about my dog." Me: "Hey, what you do in your bedroom is your business, but I'd be careful about what the ASPCA might overhear."
@Jack_Burton: no kidding. i've gotten so sick of it being so common, i now talk right over people on cell phones--to them. and then they have the gall to say, "i'm sorry--one second" to the person on the phone and impatiently tell me what they want at the drive-thru.
@pickles.and.olives, formerly ShayMerlin: And then they always profusely apologize to the person on the phone, as if they can't be pained to have a real life conversation with the person standing directly in front of them.
When I was a nanny, not a week went by where I was struggling to open a door while pushing a stroller, so I had to use my body as a doorstop while I wheeled the stroller in. Not only did I rarely get help from the person behind me, but as often as not, they'd use the wait to step over me and breeze on through.
I've pretty much given up on being thanked for holding doors open, holding elevator doors open, letting drivers get in front of me during rush hour - it rarely happens. But in hopes of making someone's day a little brighter, I'll still hold the door open for you and ignore the rest of the assholes.
@dirtybee got accepted to grad school! Hook Em!: This is my philosophy as well. I'm not really looking for any thanks from the individual, but hoping I'm generating good things coming my way (like doors being held open for me, or someone letting me cross their lane to exit a parking lot).
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I'm very mature these days- I merely utter a sincere prayer that the offenders will someday be as physically handicapped as they are morally....
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Thank you for your ALL CAPS RANT. I'm going to copy and paste it and remember it and memorize it for future use.
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World with no manners: I live in it.
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Does anyone else live in NYC? What freaks me out is the opposite right now. People usually go bashing, crashing, pushing each other around on the sidewalk, muttering obscenities under their breath about the other person, especially during rush hour.
But now? I barely brush against someone -- and we both say "sorry" at exactly the same time.
This happened three times yesterday.
Is it the recession? The swine flu?
(Yes, clearly I am a klutz who rushes everywhere, but besides that.)
Do people feel another oncoming disaster, or are we in the midst of it and people just don't know when it will end? Because (anyone remember the August blackout?) that seems to be the only time people are nice to each other.
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@greengrey: Finally some good from all that TV we're watching in the off hours.
@emilyanne: I'm not sure it's us walking too slowly down the streets; my experience is that it's always the visiting tourists from Seattle or Dallas. When I'm trying to get somewhere during rush hour.
That said, if I'm slow, perhaps I need some aerobic training before coming to London, because usually when any of my relatives visit me they are always asking me to slow down.
(I've read the EOTW is coming in 2012. Can it be after Wimbledon, do you think?)
@bklyn155: Holla!
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A frikkin' breath of fresh air, compared to Germans (downright rude) and Californians (fake), even Southerners (merely well trained).
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I'm sick of being treated like a doormat, and it seems that the occasional snippy response is my only comeback.
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When someone signals the intent to change lanes, I reduce speed to accommodate.
But if you're rude to me because you're on a cell phone, and can't be bothered to have the least courtesy for those surrounding you, then I will become a part of that conversation.
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I LOVE the scenarios this creates in my mind.
Me: "It's syphillis."
Cell Phone Person: "What?"
Me: "That rash you're describing. Sounds like syphillis. You should it get checked out."
CPP: "I'm talking about my dog."
Me: "Hey, what you do in your bedroom is your business, but I'd be careful about what the ASPCA might overhear."
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And congrats on UT!
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