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mariamariamaria
02/17/09

In reply to Hero & (Onetime) Baby Reunited After 4 Decades • Olympic Sports May Soon Be Open To Both Genders
Did anyone read the linked story about the 41 year old woman who exercised her 73 year old husband to death? IT'S WEIRD!!!
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SharonTaint
02/16/09

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I'm going out RIGHT NOW to go hug a fireman.
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Rare Affinity
02/16/09

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The dating site for the terminally ill reminds me of a brief series of columns in UK Grazia, written by a terminally ill young woman. She was a single mother and explained how she had recently met a man who was not ill himself and was proving to be her rock. She hoped to marry him and arrange for him to become the guardian of her son when she died. Then, shockingly, she wrote a few weeks later that he had walked out on her, complaining that she was too wrapped up in her own (terminal) illness to be able to properly attend to HIS needs.
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badmutha
02/16/09

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It is this kind of thing that sends me caterwauling against the patriarchy every time. Oh well, it is Monday.
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pear.shaped.Sara
02/16/09

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She was friendly to all the neighbors ... so he lit her on fire while she slept.

What do you even say?
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aubonpam
02/16/09

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It's horrible that a woman exercised her husband to death but it's kind of nice that the article refers to her as a woman and mentions her transgender status as an afterthought, right?
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Sophie needs to study...damn
02/16/09

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After the husband set his wife on fire because he was a drunk and interpreted her friendliness with infidelity, she "enveloped him in a bear hug." He ran out the house and "staggered to a friend's house two streets away." The friendly "refused to open the door." Passer-byers refused to help the burned husband too.
Arul lay on the roadside for more than half an hour till police personnel noticed him...."Doctors told us that Arul's injuries probably became worse since he lying unattended on the roadside for a long time," a senior police officer said.
Thank God no one cared to help this piece of shit of a man.
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musicpup
02/16/09

@Sophie (no longer) needs to study...celebrate!: On the other hand, I am now reminded of the one time some douchenozzle engaged in an honor killing in Germany. He set his wife, a young woman who had divorced him for his abuse, on fire in the middle of the street. In front of their son. She actually burned to death there and the sidewalk is apparently still scorch-marked and no one helped her.

I doubt the reaction of the passerby had anything to do with him being a POS or not. Sigh.
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maude_flanders
02/16/09

@Sophie (no longer) needs to study...celebrate!: That's what I thought--especially upon reading that she turned his crime on him. My reaction was, THAT'S WHAT YOU GET, YOU FUCKING STUPID ASSHOLE, AND LET THAT BE A LESSON TO THE REST OF YOU ACID-SPRAYING/KEROSENE DOUSING BOYFRIENDS AND HUSBANDS.

But more than anything...I wish this shit didn't go on. I'm more bemused than glad his neighbors didn't help...

But then again, hell, that asshole didn't NOT have it coming. He didn't anticipate her turning the tables on him. Did they refuse to help because they thought he was an abusive SOB and got his just deserts?

If nothing else I'm glad the neighbors TRIED to help her...y'know, AFTER she'd actually be set on fire, instead of BEFORE, when the abuse was just beatings.

In a place or region where men can regularly douse women in acid (and easily obtain it, too) or flame, I suppose the neighbors couldn't or wouldn't expect the police to help until a woman was literally burning to death, even if they suspected something was amiss. Maybe they wanted to help before something like this happened but had nothing to go on? What would they expect the police to do if all they had to say was, "We think so-and-so is getting drunk and beating his wife regularly?"
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Ms. Crankypants
02/16/09

@maude_flanders: I really hope your latter theory is correct. Otherwise it's sad to think, but all too often true, that they would just turn a blind eye to the abuse.

Also, I have no qualms being happy about the fact that he died & that he suffered horribly.
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anastasia beaverhousen
02/16/09

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I have 2 dogs and 1 cat. But I am in Canada. Also, aren't we all, really, terminally ill? For some it may be later rather than sooner but that turn of phrase has always bothered me.
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Ailanthus-altissima
02/16/09

@anastasia beaverhousen: Well, at least for the moment, I am terminally healthy.
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gerbilsoutofexile...is cheap and easy
02/16/09

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I just had to leave and clean up my 50-pound puppy's vomit. Tell me, is cat vomit any less vile than dog vomit? Do cat's eat eachother's poop?

I have three dogs, and wonder about these things.
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02/16/09

@gerbilsoutofexile...is cheap and easy: pardon the apostrophe in cats. I fergot to eddit.
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Ailanthus-altissima
02/16/09

@gerbilsoutofexile...is cheap and easy: Cat vomit is easier to clean, but just as stinky. My cat tries to "clean" the dog's accidents by scratching the floor near the accident. Only the dog has made the move to eating the cat's poop/vomit.

If this is too gross, I apologize.
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Raspberry Swirly
02/16/09

@gerbilsoutofexile...is cheap and easy: My cats aren't poop eaters, and the few times they've thrown up, it's not been very bad at all. More like watery bile stuff, though the little one doesn't chew well enough and things come up mostly whole without any liquid stuff at all. I remember haaaaating cleaning up dog puke though. It would make me gag.
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mslewis
02/16/09

@gerbilsoutofexile...is cheap and easy: Cats are clean and amazing and wonderful and very, very smart!! However, they do cough up a hair ball every now and then (unless you put mineral oil on their paws so they can lick it off and thus, oil their insides).
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Raspberry Swirly
02/16/09

@mslewis: My cats have never coughed up hairballs. The older one will cough now and then, but nothing comes out. It's like clearing his throat.
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insomniacmeg
02/16/09

@gerbilsoutofexile...is cheap and easy: my cat has a digestive problem and he pukes a bit about twice a week, always in the morning. My bf was laughing on saturday because I actually woke up from hearing him retch and jumped out of bed to move him from the carpet to the hardwood floors---easier to clean up! That's how accustomed I am to it.

my sister's cat pukes and then eats the vomit. Her vet said its good for him. It's revolting to watch.
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hellosunshine
02/16/09

@gerbilsoutofexile...is cheap and easy: It's just about as vile, though typically in smaller quantities (though my calico was like something from "The Exorcist"). And I have never had a cat who has been interested in its or any other poop, though my schnauzer sometimes seemed tempted.
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hellosunshine
02/16/09

@Raspberry Swirl: Now with more yruppls!: I'm constantly surprised that NONE of our cats ever seemed to have hairballs, and we've had a lot of cats in my 24 years of being. Mostly just a hacking cough, a quick dash to put kitteh on the hard floors, and then a "okay cool, I'm done" look.
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Ms. Crankypants
02/16/09

@insomniacmeg: Wait.. it's good for cat's to eat their vomit? Sometimes catpants eats too fast & then pukes it back up & if I don't get there in time she'll try to eat it. I just figured she was trying to clean up the mess the only way she knew how. Also, so glad she doesn't eat poop. Although, it would be nice if she covered it up with litter on a regular basis.
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Gretchen is a new kitten mom!
02/16/09

@gerbilsoutofexile...is cheap and easy: 9 cats and 2 greyhounds here. We have a couple cases of cat puke daily. The dogs are positively disgusting. They will rush to the cat whenever they hear the 'glurp' and practically mug the poor feline until it vomits.

I believe if the cat is on a table they would position themselves strategically underneath, like baby birds, for a mid-air catch.
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tscheese
02/16/09

@gerbilsoutofexile...is cheap and easy: I have never met a cat that would eat the vomit or feces of another cat. I think fastidiousness is instinctual in cats--they're descended from wild cats that survive by being stealthy, silent, and almost odorless.

Cat vomit can be kind of icky, but it doesn't smell the way human barf does, and it's usually kind of small and localized. I love dogs, but I'm definitely more of a cat person. They're generally rather low-maintenance and clean.

I hope your puppy is feeling okay! Barf is never fun to clean up, no matter what kind of creature it comes from.
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gherkinfiend
02/16/09

@gerbilsoutofexile...is cheap and easy: Cats bring you loving gifts of decapitated birds and mice first thing in the morning...you might be the one vomiting!
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Raspberry Swirly
02/16/09

@tinycowboybraaaaains: Ha! Yeah, the first few months I had Cricket, I would do the mad dash to a safe spot to clean, but then once I realized nothing ever comes out, I just stop to watch and make sure he doesn't actually choke to death.
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Tart of Darkness
02/16/09

@Ms. Crankypants: You might have catpants thyroid checked. One thing we learned from our ancient cat was that cats often become hyperthyroid so they act extra hungry and then vomit the food they can't digest.
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Tart of Darkness
02/16/09

@gerbilsoutofexile...is cheap and easy: I have three dogs, too. Two of them will eat each others' poop and cat poop and vomit of any sort.

The one of these that likes to lick hands, I never allow to lick me until I clean his mouth just in case.

We've tried those "forbid" things and they were useless. The only thing that keeps them from eating poop is making sure they don't have access to it.

Cats are cleaner for the most part until they get old and they kind of get into a "proforma" cleaning regimen...miming covering their poop and stuff. And as I mentioned above mine was hyperthyroid and vomitted from time to time.

My daughter's cat is like a slot machine. Sometimes she uses the litterbox for long periods of time and then now and then pees on the bed or clothes on the floor. And she's young and physically healthy. Suggestions requested.
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Ms. Crankypants
02/16/09

@Tart of Darkness: I will get catpants thyroid checked. Thanks!
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Betty Bea Getty McClanahan
02/16/09

@Tart of Darkness: RE your daughter's cat, mine does the same exact thing. I've pretty much pinned it down to the fact that we have 4 other cats (including an extremely aggressive male who tries to control everyone using fascism).

It sometimes comes down to A) she's too intimidated to use it because she's afraid of possible conflict, or B) I have a lot of dirty shit around and she feels compelled to let me know that it must end.
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Red-headed bookworm
02/17/09

@tscheese: My cats eat the vomit of the others. It's gross but my cats usually only puke when they gobble their food too quickly.
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Red-headed bookworm
02/17/09

@ErinnH: Or the cat is pissed off at you for some reason. I have a very emotional cat who will go on the floor when the litter box doesn't meet his level of cleanliness or he's upset with me about something.
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Mama Penguino
02/16/09

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Just watched the firefighter video and I'm crying. What beautiful people. Thank God they found each other.
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ellaesther
02/16/09

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Ok, so you draw me in with the achingly lovely "big man saves life of little baby" story, and then hit me upside the head with the horrors of immolation, and Romanian mothers leaving their children, and a woman killing her husband with swimming, and inhumanely slaughtered chickens. Etc. Oh Jezebel, you sure know how to brighten a girl's day!
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musicpup
02/16/09

@ellaesther: Ditto. I actually cried when I read the article for the first story and watched the video. And them BAM! Woman on fire takes her husband out with her! BAM! Inhumane chicken slaughtering! BAM!
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VaginaWig is A Merkin
02/16/09

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I'm not sure how I feel about a dating site for the terminally ill. I mean, good for them for trying to find companions regardless of how much longer they have on this Earth, but for some reason the thought of the site makes me a little uncomfortable.
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musicpup
02/16/09

@VadgeWig is more socially acceptable: It makes me uncomfortable, too. Mainly because I'm wondering why terminally ill should have to segregate themselves from the dating pool? I get that they might not have as much time left as those of us who are healthy, but even the healthy people can be taken out by accidents.
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VaginaWig is A Merkin
02/16/09

@musicpup rodstaff: Right. That was my thought, too. But maybe there is a difference between entering into a relationship with someone that you know is going to die, and living with the reality of that every day, and someone being suddenly taken from you unexpectedly. Though I have to think that the latter might actually be worse than the former.
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musicpup
02/16/09

@VadgeWig is more socially acceptable: You know, there very well might be a difference. I think someone suddenly being taken away is probably a whole lot more traumatic because you never had the chance to say good-bye. But on the other hand, it does make a kind of social implication - terminally ill should only date others who are also terminally ill. And would this stigmatize those healthy partners who choose to stay with their terminally ill significant others?

I'm probably overthinking this way too much.
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Beat Girl
02/16/09

@VadgeWig is more socially acceptable: My first thought was that those with AIDS would be really suited to this. Is that an uneducated thought?
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thesciencegirl
02/16/09

@Miss Carrie Nation: in the US, AIDS is largely a chronic disease. It is not a short-term death sentence now, as it was in the 80s, due to anti-retrovirals. So, I don't that such people would be ideal for a dating website for the terminally ill. But I suppose it might be easier to date in a pool of people who are all HIV+ ... it's gotta be really tough to disclose that status in dating relationships.
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Ailanthus-altissima
02/16/09

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So many sad stories. I'm going to focus on the kitties and puppies instead. One day, I would love to have 4 dogs and totally mess up those stats even more.

Confounding Statistics - a nerd's dream come true.
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w33kdays
02/16/09

@Ailanthus-altissima: I'm in one of those house holds. :)

We had one dog, then two so she could have a buddy. Then we found two puppies, adorable brother and sister, in my relative's yard. We could not say no to those beautiful and sweet creatures.
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Ailanthus-altissima
02/16/09

@p0rt3r: That is so sweet! I have one pup. I want him to have a buddy, but the apartment is too small. Right now, he just hangs out with the cat. One day, though, one day...
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hellosunshine
02/16/09

@p0rt3r: Awwww. As long as I can remember, we've always had at least one pet. We usually have two dogs and a kitty, though at one point we had two dogs and five kitties! I can't wait to get back home so I can have pets again, bestest things ever :-)
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Evie Havok
02/16/09

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"A woman who was allegedly set on fire by her husband embraced him while she was still burning, and held on until he was also in flames. The couple died in the hospital from their burns on Sunday."

Is it wrong for me to say that I'm glad that she took him down with her. That bastard.
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bowleserised
02/16/09

@afiunderground: If you read the whole story he really did, rather horribly, get his just desserts.
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tobesthewonderdog
02/16/09

@afiunderground: seriously and it's SO FUCKING METAL. but also really depressing.
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IBleedGlitter: The High Priestess of Tinsel
02/17/09

@afiunderground: I was totally thinking the same thing. It's an awful situation, but it's sorta badass that she was like 'I'm taking this fucker down with me'.
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Ascendo_tuum
02/17/09

@tobesthewonderdog: "I didn't realize that was metal!"
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Red-headed bookworm
02/17/09

@IBleedGlitter: Yep. I think it's sad but kind of awesome for her to not go down without fighting back.
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Raspberry Swirly
02/16/09

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PETA can eat me. Did you see where they dressed up as the KKK to get their point across? Ugh. So disgusting.
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Ailanthus-altissima
02/16/09

@Raspberry Swirl: Now with more yruppls!: I hate their tactics. I'm vegan and all for small farms, eating local, etc etc, but boy do they choose ludicrous ways to get a fair point across.
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YourScreenplaySucks
02/16/09

@Raspberry Swirl: Now with more yruppls!: PETA: Redefining tonedeafness since 1980

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Raspberry Swirly
02/16/09

@Your Screenplay Sucks: ...You've got to be shitting me. Please tell me that's someone's Photoshop skills at work. Please.

@Ailanthus-altissima: And you would think that they'd have people that would say, hey maybe this is a bad idea, how about we just emphasize the importance of ethical eating? But it's like a company filled with morons. Do they have no blacks or Jews on board? Surely ONE of them thought these were bad.
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YourScreenplaySucks
02/16/09

@Raspberry Swirl: Now with more yruppls!: I'm afraid not. Seriously, I have no idea what they're smoking over there.

[www.cnn.com]
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Raspberry Swirly
02/16/09

@Your Screenplay Sucks: How can an entire company of people be so out of touch with reality and human compassion? The animals are important, yes, but for the fuck of shit...
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MizJenkins
02/16/09

@Your Screenplay Sucks: Oh that's just atrocious. I'm sorry, animals are not people. I'm sorry if that makes you sad but it's not morally equivalent. Just stop.
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MizJenkins
02/16/09

@Your Screenplay Sucks: @PETA, that is, not you!
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Ailanthus-altissima
02/16/09

@Raspberry Swirl: Now with more yruppls!: If that makes you mad, then definitely do not check out the book Eternal Treblinka. I'm not sure where I draw the line, but let me tell you, Holocaust comparisons are so fucking over the line that my blood boils and steam pours out my ears.
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YourScreenplaySucks
02/16/09

@MizJenkins: Your Earth logic has no place at PETA headquarters.
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Raspberry Swirly
02/16/09

@Ailanthus-altissima: I googled it. I am further enraged. Like, I understand wanting to treat animals humanely when using them for food, but holy Christmonkeys, comparing their suffering to the Holocaust is just despicable and spits in the face of any survivors or families of survivors. "Oh hey, you know Gramma's suffering? That chicken suffered the exact same way! Gramma's like a chicken!" Fucking bullshit.
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Ailanthus-altissima
02/16/09

@Raspberry Swirl: Now with more yruppls!: PM - you have one.
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