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ElleL
08/23/09

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How do we know he didn't try to kill HER and she fought back? Judging from HIS MySpace, he was a needy boyfriend. Why don't we analyze this?

Grrr.
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cwisto moweina has got yer goat
08/23/09

@ElleL: is my sarcastic meter broken?
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lobsterswithmittens
08/23/09

@ElleL: I think the same amount of damage is done no matter what conclusion one attempts to jump to... Fact is, he's dead, she isn't. Leave the speculation to her defense attorney.
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ElleL
08/23/09

@lobsterswithmittens: True, I will be interested to see how this unfolds, sadness all around.
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suck_it_monkeys
08/23/09

@ElleL: Honestly, that was my first assumption as well, but we don't have any real details yet. I'm biased against needy boyfriends, the press is biased against "loose" women, and none of us are qualified to judge this case.
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ElleL
08/23/09

@cwisto moweina has got yer goat: What sarcasm? I was genuinely asking why the assumption is that she did it?
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ElleL
08/23/09

@suck_it_monkeys: Agreed, I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this one.
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moissie
08/23/09

@ElleL: Why is the assumption that her boyfriend was trying to kill her and she fought back?
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ElleL
08/23/09

@moissie: I think it's best to say any assumption is just a bad one in regards to this one.
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alexherrera
08/23/09

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Is this frowned upon now? When I graduated college I was so happy I choked a hobo with my tassle.
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Snowbunny
08/23/09

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The British press' evidence to her potential guilt confuses me. If I was a judge presented with the case I would be totally baffled as to what was put in front of me and how it applied.

"She enjoys acoustic guitar and party dressing."
"One: I don't care about her musical ability, Two: 'party dressing' isn't really a definable activity, Three: if we're basing guilt off hobbies then my hobby of digging holes and putting living plants in them is surely going to earn me a class C felony sometime soon."
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Skinny lips, killer lashes
08/23/09

@Snowbunny: It's become more common for journalists to trawl through the MySpace, Facebook and Bebo profiles of females who are murdered, commit suicide or are accused of murder. They don't seem to bother as much with males.

When Meredith Kercher was murdered, the Daily Fail printed what her friends had written on her wall. I found that rather intrusive and distasteful.
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Snowbunny
08/23/09

@Skinny lips, killer lashes: That is quite despicable. She was the victim, yet the whole world needed to know her friend missed her at the "krazy kegger" last night? Very trashy. I really hope I don't get murdered.
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Le Kangourou de Kataroo
08/23/09

@Skinny lips, killer lashes: My bestest friend in the whole wide world has passwords to my social networking sites and has explicit instructions to delete pretty much everything the second anything happens to me.

She also has a list of "acceptable" photos that the press can run just in cases. No drunk photos of me dancing on a bar, por favors. If they want to yank a pic of me from my Facebook, she knows the 3 that are acceptable not to delete.

It is sad that we have to have this convo, but c'mon... it's terrible for the press to use the info the way they do.
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slowpoke.r
08/23/09

@Le Kangourou de Kataroo: You're reminding me of Steve and Jeff from Coupling being "porn buddies," which I always thought was brilliant. These kind of arrangements should go hand-in-hand with living wills and other sensible preparations, as far as I'm concerned. Seriously.
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greengrey
08/23/09

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Why are they putting so much emphasis on her A-Levels? Are they really relevant here?
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hortense
08/23/09

@greengrey: I think it's because the murder happened after a party celebrating her tests, but why they had to publish her grades is beyond me.
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girlhowdy
08/23/09

@hortense: How many A-levels you earn are a factor in which university you can attend, particularly if you're on the bubble. I think they're emphasising her A-levels to indicate that she's a nice, middle-class woman, not some sort of "chav".
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greengrey
08/23/09

@girlhowdy: Good point.
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WaltzingMatilda
08/23/09

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Oh, if we're "convicting" people based upon MySpace pages - I have a few people that I nominate for investigation.

And anyone with a sparkly webpage is generally suspect.
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Anne is Spiderman
08/23/09

@WaltzingMatilda: As we all know, sparkly = vampire. And vampire = killers.

So much makes sense now.
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ElsaSthenelus
08/23/09

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Yes, it's unfortunate that she did not conform to the typical gender role of the young female--endlessly attached and clingy. Therefore, of course she's guilty, because she was a frigid bitch that didn't turn her online profile into a shrine for her boyfriend.
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hortense
08/23/09

@ElsaSthenelus: Right? Why are those details even necessary?
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LaComtesse
08/23/09

@hortense: Because not living FOR your boyfriend at 18 y/o is independence and independence is one step away from feminism and, as we all know, feminism is one step away from murder most foul.
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Le Kangourou de Kataroo
08/23/09

@ElsaSthenelus: My boyfriend and I aren't even Facebook friends or MySpace friends.

I obviously am responsible for all the negatives in his life.
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checkyaself
08/23/09

@ElsaSthenelus: Oh, so she's the victim here.
Here I thought it was the police investigating the romantic partners who always have an air of suspicion around them, especially if the couple got into an argument prior to the murder.
Now I know that it is the the patriarchy at work again trying to keep independent women down.
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Dancingfrog
08/24/09

@ElsaSthenelus: @those assuming a criminal investigation just must be about the patriarchy trying to keep a poor girl down: Oh, it's so funny that a young man was killed. He must have deserved, right? I mean, she's a woman, she must have been a victim of patriarchy. Come on, people! Compare this to the other domestic murder that's in the news, and the coverage is night and day. In both cases, lives were lost. In one, it's assumed the victim was totally helpless. In the other, it's assumed the victim deserved it, because he's a man. It's sickening. In one, we feel sorry for the alleged murderer because she obviously was driven to it; in the other, we cheer the suicide of an alleged murderer. Have we lost the ability, as a society, to see the trees for the forest? Have we all lost our ability to see individuals in the face of trying to sound all 4th wave feministy and edumacated? What happen to real feminism - the basic idea that women (and by extension, men) are human beings deserving of rights and responsibilities, and the basic ideas of education, which is to be able to learn how to think critically rather than just jump to conclusions?
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andBegorrah
08/23/09

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She's not a real lady criminal until the British press gives her a lurid yet punny nickname.
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hortense
08/23/09

@andBegorrah: It's only a matter of time.
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bowleserised
08/23/09

@andBegorrah: and remember, she's not a woman, she's a "blonde", also a "teen". "Teen Blonde Death Angel" probs. This will spark many op-eds about "rise in teenage girl violence" and "rise in teenage girl binge drinking"...
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andBegorrah
08/23/09

@bowleserised: My money's on "The Blonde Dahlia" or "Kat Scratch Clubber."
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