Jezebel 
Enter your username and password.
New York, 11:03 AM
Thu Dec 17
66 posts in the last 24 hours
Tip your editors:
Editor-in-Chief:
Anna Holmes
| Twitter
Deputy Editor:
Dodai Stewart
| Twitter
Senior Contributing Editor:
Tracie Egan Morrissey
| Twitter
Contributing Editors:
Anna North
| Twitter
Sadie Stein
| Twitter
Reporter:
Irin Carmon
| Twitter
Editorial Assistant:
Margaret Hartmann
| Twitter
Contributors:
Rich Juzwiak
Email | Twitter
Latoya Peterson
Email
Jenna Sauers
Lizzie Skurnick
Interns:
Katy Kelleher
Twitter
Weekends/Commenter Moderator:
Hortense
| Twitter
Original material is licensed under a Creative Commons License permitting non-commercial sharing with attribution.
07/11/09
But it didn't say that being unhealthily obese was a good thing, either.
I still don't understand the conflation of unhealthy weight gain with self-acceptance and female liberation.
(Ducking now).
07/10/09
If anything Orbach is a proponent of body acceptance in any and all forms. And what she tries to get at is that we're being sold "health" but what we're really being taught is self-hatred and obsessive body, weight, and food issues.
07/10/09
07/10/09
07/10/09
07/10/09
07/10/09
I read that article too, and definitely found some truth in it. Obviously not every fat woman has an eating disorder (just as not every thin woman has an eating disorder!), but to shove them under the rug and pretend like they don't exist is doing a huge disservice both to the fat acceptance movement and to the women with eating disorders that they ignore.
07/10/09
That is not the case. We want anyone who is fat to be treated the same as someone who is skinny. That's it. I think that there is enough trouble to get the media to report on FA at all that articles like this, while important in illuminating internal issues that the FA movement has to work on, do more harm than good.
07/10/09
07/10/09
07/10/09
06/08/09
I am such a bad person.
06/08/09
06/08/09
06/08/09
06/08/09
06/08/09
06/08/09
06/08/09
I'm pretty sure I've been consuming far less than 1200 calories a day but I've also been sleeping 15-18 hours daily and you don't eat when you sleep. I think 1200 was probably what I was consuming before the Paxil but again I've never counted. I've also learned that stress plus lack of sleep messes with your metabolism and mine is now kicking up a couple of notches with the medication and rest.
I was happy with my weight before even though I knew I could stand to lose a few pounds but I've never been one to diss myself if I looked a bit 'pudgy'. I am who I am.
The thing that distresses me the most is my brain is a bit slow on Paxil and it has sucked the snark right out of me when I'm usually quick on the draw, hence my lack of comments here for the past month.
I guess the point of this rambling, Paxil-influenced post is that we should all enjoy life and not be so consumed with little issues like weight. Your health is much more important and as long as you're healthy, who cares?
06/08/09
06/08/09
AMEN.
06/08/09
06/08/09
06/08/09
06/08/09
The only time I took off a significant amount of weight was on the Atkins diet, but I've put it all back on and then some. Sad thing is, I wasn't even overweight when I went on it, but I am now.
06/08/09
I hope my daughter will be able to talk about her body without the very words she uses proving to be a minefield to herself and the women around her.
I hope all our daughters will be able to love their bodies.
06/08/09
06/08/09
06/08/09
In a better world, we would be able to talk about these things. When my now-husband and I put on a lot of what I call happy fat -- you know, you're falling in love and not moving more than three feet from the bed, unless it's to get special foods with which to treat each other, and then get back into bed -- we each wound up a lot rounder than we wanted to be. We both dieted -- my one and only diet in my entire life -- because well, happy fat is fun to achieve, but not always fun to carry around. And yet, I don't even like to mention that I EVER went on a diet, that I EVER restricted calories, etc, etc, because it feels to me like in so doing, I'm supporting our fucked up way of looking at womens bodies.
But surely, if the world were a wiser place, it wouldn't be that loaded, right? Surely a person could just describe it, as an un-value-loaded story from one's past, while she tucked into a slice of chocolate cake? I hate that we're like this.
06/08/09
06/08/09
06/08/09
also i thought it was pretty common knowledge around here that a lot of readers have struggled with/do struggle with eating disorders and issues and it's kind of a straight up dick move to talk triggers in the comments.
good thing i had already ran and gotten some veggie pizza by the slice for my lunch. eating cheese and loving it, SO SUCK IT diets!
06/08/09
06/08/09
06/08/09
And to the commenter above - no one thinks these posts will send someone back into an ED, but they can ruin a person's day or make it harder. Jezebel is supposed to be a safe-place when it comes to body issues, hence the rule against body-snarking. Please do not compare this consideration for others to censorship. It's spurious.
06/08/09
The defense here seems to be "but it was a post about calorie intake, that's why we are discussing/stating ours!" I didn't think that was the point of the post at all, but I suppose the way one reads articles like this is relative, yes?
06/08/09
why post a story about the avg calorie intake and how crash diets ....if you don't want people to give personal anectodets on what works for them, and what their physican had advise to them in the past.
06/08/09
I don't understand that comment either.
I can understand where many of the comments are comming from but to bash people b/c they my cause someone to be anorexic and to say that one can't talk about fitness b/c this site is for safe body image is just ridiculous.
06/08/09
06/08/09
06/08/09
I had a problem with the fact that awinoforever seemed to be agreeing with Eleanor's excellent comment yet felt the need to make sure we knew exactly what she was personally doing with her calories in and out while simultaneously criticizing other commenters for making similar comments. It seemed hypocritical to me and her language choice was unfortunate. However, I do agree with her overall opinion and I was perhaps being oversensitive; we all need to share personal details in order to communicate, and she didn't resort to numbers, at least.
I don't think anyone is being "bashed" here; what people requested is that this post not devolve into a numbers-off because that's not what this article is about. What we should/ could be discussing is whether self-enforced temporary starvation is dangerous for us or not, and if it is why, and whether it's a reasonable tool for women to use, and why we feel like we need weight loss tools in the first place. But instead it became about how many calories are the "right" amount and what is the "right" way to exercise, both of which are completely unnecessary to the discussion as well as largely subjective.
This site is not about trading tips on exercise or needlepoint or car repair or cooking- there are a million of those already out there- but rather a space where we can talk about our culture and how it affects and is affected by women.
06/08/09
06/08/09