Not trying to be a smart ass, just some insights to the german chancellor-husband...
Angela Merkels husband Joachim Sauer is famous for not showing up on official occasions - I am not even sure if he attended Angies inauguration ceremony. Almost the only time the german public gets a peek at him is when he accompanies his wife to the yearly Wagner-Festival (Opera, that stuff).
I think most of the german public likes him for that - it´s refreshingly down-to-earth. In general we don´t have any particular tradition of partner-of-politicians-running-around-doing-good-deeds. Excluding the wifes (up until now, sadly only wifes - we're working on it) of the presidents - the german president having solely representative duties, their families are normally more present. Some chancellors wifes followed the "american" path before, writing books and doing stuff.... but I think the only ones they make happy with that are the press people. For the rest of germany, it´s normally pretty okay if we don´t even know how spouses and children look like, let alone what they do and where they are.
That said: it annoys the hell out of me that these "spouse-programmes" are still so 1950s-girls-stuff. I ntoo would have hoped that Michelle Obama would have turned the wheel just a bit more...
Maybe we have to wait until there is a critical mass of male spouses. The kind who follow their wives to G20 meetings, not the Joachim-Sauer-what-the-fuck-do-I-care?-kind.
I think Merkel's husband only accompanies her once a year to the Bayreuth Festival. The rest of time he attends his scientific research. He has his own career and was not elected, so I don't care what he does or does not.
That said I wish that the WIVES of politicians would be allowed such liberty too.
So Mr. Kirshner gets to eat Primanti's, hit up PNC Park, and sip a delicious cup of Coffee Tree Roasters' Tanzania Peaberry while strolling along Murray Avenue?
And there has been so much lunching and dining — ravioli carbonara in Rome! — that one wonders whether all the spouses have Jenny Craig on speed dial.
hahaha. Totally. They're eating like, A LOT OF FOOD a few times a year. They probably sit around going "oh, I'm so BAD! I shouldn't eat this! But just this once!" and then, they shamefully call up Jenny Craig the next to work off their MISTAKE. Other topics of conversation include: shoes, how men never do housework, andthe healing powers of yogurt.
you know, I prefer Obama as president over Hillary.... but I have to admit, it would have been nice to see Bill Clinton as FHOTUS ;o)
I bet he would enjoy hanging around the other wives at the spouse- events.
@l'américaine française: I think the prospect of Bill Clinton as First "Gentleman" played a big role in my initial support of Hillary. I felt like we were getting a two for one deal, except we ran the risk that it was like two for one Big Mac Mondays at Mcdonald's. It seems like a good idea, but in the end, you'll probably regret it.
Can someone who knows more about this than me help me with the Despot Housewives article, particularly President Ahmadinejad's wife? Fox News is saying that Parvin Ahmadinejad is Ahmadinejad's wife, whereas other sources (NY Times, for one), say she is the president's sister. I've spent some time on this and can't find, anywhere, the name of the first lady of Iran. Anybody?
(ETA: And I don't think this is a case of his sister standing in as first lady due to president being unmarried. Ahmadinejad's definitely married.)
"And there has been so much lunching and dining — ravioli carbonara in Rome! — that one wonders whether all the spouses have Jenny Craig on speed dial"
That writer is exactly right -one does wonder. And by one I mean that reporter specifically is the only one who wonders.
@HeatherNumber1: I read something on the NYT blog the other day that I naïvely assumed I'd never read -- a woman read that she dieted just because she assumed that was what women did.
*shudders*
This reminds of the (really funny) Cary Grant movie I Was a Male War Bride:
Grant: I am an alien spouse of female military personnel enroute to the United States under Public Law 271 of the Congress
Army Guy: But you're a man! You can't stay here!
I think it's nice that these events are planned for the spouses, at least from a PR standpoint (and it certainly beats having them sit in hotel rooms or whatever). I really do not understand why the political husbands are not encouraged to participate. It's not like they are going to get mani/pedis or something else overly gendered. By excluding the husbands it seems like they are also in some ways marginalizing the female world leaders, saying that their companions are not as welcome. Although I don't think Iceland is part of the G20, I wonder if the partner of their openly lesbian prime minister would be including as part of the girl's club. I'm just as shocked that this is coming from Michelle Obama's camp, you think she would be cooler than that.
@hfree: as someone who sat with one man at a table full of women during a women & science thing, and forced him to listen to a discussion on the challenges of breastfeeding in the workplace, i definitely think it was good for him. Those men should be there.
@wilmawonker: Oh, oink, oink, oink, we men are all chauvanistic little piggies, aren't we? Where's a Sarah Jessica Parker post when I really need an outlet for my misogyny?
I love Michelle Obama, possibly to an unhealthy degree. I also understand that are so many reasons this would be hard to pull off, but how cool would it be to have a first lady who had a full time job other than first-lady-ing?
@LeCauchemar: We did. Secretary Clinton practiced law until she went to the White House. It seems they don't have to quit their other jobs until their spouses are sworn in.
@100flowers: Yup, she's a multi-millioinaire, runs an employment agency. As you can imagine, this drives the conservatives WILD. Apparently it's ok for the leader of the opposition to be a multi-millionaire former merchant banker who lives on the most expensive street in the country, but it's not ok for the PM to be married to a chick with some financial chops. OMG They're ELITES. They're OUT OF TOUCH. She wears THE PANTS. etc etc.
"Now wait a minute, y'all
This dance aint for everybody
Only the lady spouses
So all you fly wives, get on out there and tour
Tour, I said!
First Wives here, and were in effect
Want you to tour it, babe
Coolin by day then at night working up a sweat
Cmon girls, lets go show the guys that we know
How to become number one in a hot party show
This sounds like the Mandatory Fun Night during Resident Assistant training week in college. No matter what the activity, it's not fun if you have to go.
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Angela Merkels husband Joachim Sauer is famous for not showing up on official occasions - I am not even sure if he attended Angies inauguration ceremony. Almost the only time the german public gets a peek at him is when he accompanies his wife to the yearly Wagner-Festival (Opera, that stuff).
I think most of the german public likes him for that - it´s refreshingly down-to-earth. In general we don´t have any particular tradition of partner-of-politicians-running-around-doing-good-deeds. Excluding the wifes (up until now, sadly only wifes - we're working on it) of the presidents - the german president having solely representative duties, their families are normally more present. Some chancellors wifes followed the "american" path before, writing books and doing stuff.... but I think the only ones they make happy with that are the press people. For the rest of germany, it´s normally pretty okay if we don´t even know how spouses and children look like, let alone what they do and where they are.
That said: it annoys the hell out of me that these "spouse-programmes" are still so 1950s-girls-stuff. I ntoo would have hoped that Michelle Obama would have turned the wheel just a bit more...
Maybe we have to wait until there is a critical mass of male spouses. The kind who follow their wives to G20 meetings, not the Joachim-Sauer-what-the-fuck-do-I-care?-kind.
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That said I wish that the WIVES of politicians would be allowed such liberty too.
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I think he got a pretty good deal.
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hahaha. Totally. They're eating like, A LOT OF FOOD a few times a year. They probably sit around going "oh, I'm so BAD! I shouldn't eat this! But just this once!" and then, they shamefully call up Jenny Craig the next to work off their MISTAKE. Other topics of conversation include: shoes, how men never do housework, andthe healing powers of yogurt.
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I bet he would enjoy hanging around the other wives at the spouse- events.
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(ETA: And I don't think this is a case of his sister standing in as first lady due to president being unmarried. Ahmadinejad's definitely married.)
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That writer is exactly right -one does wonder. And by one I mean that reporter specifically is the only one who wonders.
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*shudders*
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Grant: I am an alien spouse of female military personnel enroute to the United States under Public Law 271 of the Congress
Army Guy: But you're a man! You can't stay here!
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Were any of them REQUIRED to go? Aside from the politeness factor? I really have no huge problem with this.
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I think she's awesome. And I can't imagine her at a Harry Potter Party.
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This dance aint for everybody
Only the lady spouses
So all you fly wives, get on out there and tour
Tour, I said!
First Wives here, and were in effect
Want you to tour it, babe
Coolin by day then at night working up a sweat
Cmon girls, lets go show the guys that we know
How to become number one in a hot party show
Now tour it
Ah, tour it good"
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