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    Image of Brigit Brigit
    04/09/09

    In reply to National Obsession With Kept Women Continues This Weekend
    You know, it has come to the point in which I don't care about this one way or the other. We're naked apes, sex is a normal social interaction, and we live in a world with twisted social expectations.

    Sex in exchange for goods/services seems to be an ever-present thing.

    What disturbs me(not necessarily surprises me) is the gender disparity. If middle-aged women were as common as men (or vice-versa) in these relationships maybe I wouldn't find them as distasteful.
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    Image of Flackette Goes Retro Flackette Goes Retro
    04/09/09

    In reply to National Obsession With Kept Women Continues This Weekend
    People marry for money all the time (not that I approve). This is actually more honest, as they aren't even pretending to love and honor each other.
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    Image of Jack_Burton Jack_Burton
    04/09/09

    In reply to National Obsession With Kept Women Continues This Weekend
    Wealthy Benefactor Seeks Female Companion:


    Should have cheery disposition, will support you in costuming business. PR / media-relations skills a requirement. Must fit into rabbit suit and policeman mask, preferably simultaneously.

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    Image of Brigit Brigit
    04/09/09

    @Jack_Burton: Does the Officer Bunny position pay in vegetables?
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    Image of rocknrollunicorn rocknrollunicorn
    04/09/09

    @Jack_Burton: I am into this.
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    Image of Vermontboy Vermontboy
    04/09/09

    In reply to National Obsession With Kept Women Continues This Weekend
    So the site seems pretty repulsive, but I don't really like judging these relationships.


    I mean, I've had really fucked up relationships for really bad reasons- I'd be hard pressed to say that the relationships described in the article are somehow "worse" than some of the shit I've been involved in.


    And I really don't want people judging the foundations of my relationships, much less writing NYT articles about it.

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    Image of rocknrollunicorn rocknrollunicorn
    04/09/09

    @Vermontboy: Yes, in total agreement here. Relationships are fucked up in all kinds of ways. Ones involving an obvious material element just have something glaring you can point at and judge.
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    Image of SarahMC SarahMC
    04/09/09

    In reply to National Obsession With Kept Women Continues This Weekend
    You think a Sugar Daddy is going to let you sit around eating bon-bons, getting fat? I don't think so. You've got to keep up your end of the bargain, too, which means acting however your Daddy wants you to.
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    Image of skahammer skahammer
    04/09/09

    In reply to National Obsession With Kept Women Continues This Weekend
    I offer that sometimes it's just interesting to read what other types of relationship approaches are out there -- especially when your own experience tends to hug the norm. Celibacy, polyamory, sugar babies -- it's almost always interesting to see how people manage to make that work in their lives. It expands one's mind beyond the contours of one's own experience.
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    04/09/09

    @skahammer: Actually I'd compare it to stories about "fuck buddies."


    I'd never had a relationship like that, and I'd never heard anyone speak openly about it, either -- not in those terms, anyway. But when I started reading articles about it a few years ago, I found it intriguing to know that that was an option my peers and I had. I might never have thought about that issue otherwise. Same here.

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    Image of Scoithniamh Scoithniamh
    04/09/09

    In reply to National Obsession With Kept Women Continues This Weekend
    I very rarely toss out the "jus jellus" argument, but in this case, I think that some of the fascination could stem from that. It comes down to a basic theory: When someone has something that I want and cannot have, I feel better knowing that they got it in a way I can look down upon.


    I feel disgusting for having said that, but I know that I sometimes fall prey to it. Reading about women who have their education paid for/pay for their own, or have fantastic cars and vacations and things because they earned it (or came by it "honestly") makes me jealous, but not in an unhealthy way. It makes me feel worse about my own very minor successes, though, because why can't I have what they have?


    Reading about women who had to sleep with someone to get all of the above things causes that sick should-be-silenced little voice to say, hmph! They didn't deserve all that.


    I think in times when many many people are struggling, reading about excesses feeds a certain desire for schadenfreude.

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    Image of Elizabeth Tailormade Elizabeth Tailormade
    04/09/09

    In reply to National Obsession With Kept Women Continues This Weekend
    Where is the mystery?
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    Image of Evie Havok Evie Havok
    04/09/09

    @Elizabeth_Tailormade: It's certainly not in their character.
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    Image of hollygirl hollygirl
    04/09/09

    In reply to National Obsession With Kept Women Continues This Weekend
    why are we being forced to read about this tiny segment of the population at a time when women, in fact, are especially prominent in the Recession-era workforce?


    That's why. Its called repression. Like the lies about sex abuse at day care centers when women were putting their kids there to go to work. Its just so darn hard to deal with us when we are free to be!!

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    Image of BlowJoy BlowJoy
    04/09/09

    In reply to National Obsession With Kept Women Continues This Weekend
    I've done this. It was awesome.


    The end.

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    Image of SouthernSatine SouthernSatine
    04/09/09

    @BlowJoy: Do tell. Please. I am legitimately fascinated.
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    Image of prestocaro fears the culling prestocaro fears the culling
    04/09/09

    @BlowJoy: I'm with Satine, SPILL!
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    Image of BlowJoy BlowJoy
    04/09/09

    @SouthernSatine: @prestocaro fears the Sexaual Peter: It's the same as anything else... We can disect any relationshp to death, but the key is to find the thing that is best for you. Who cares if it is different than anyone else's. Otherwise where does the judgement stop? Gay marriage... Immoral and Disgusting! SugarBaby/Daddy relationship... Horrible and Setting back women! Stay out of my bedroom.
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    Image of skahammer skahammer
    04/09/09

    @BlowJoy: I too would enjoy a few well-chosen deets.
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    Image of hello.kitty hello.kitty
    04/09/09

    In reply to National Obsession With Kept Women Continues This Weekend
    Okay I am going to protest that photo of Lorelei Lee. She was a career gal and wasn't looking to be a kept woman. She married for love and money (in that order). "Don't you know that a man being rich is like a girl being pretty? You wouldn't marry a girl just because she's pretty, but my goodness, doesn't it help?"
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    Image of lolacat lolacat
    04/09/09

    In reply to National Obsession With Kept Women Continues This Weekend
    I think men love these articles becasue they are secretly sure that girls just want a free ride. Even when I make more than they do. The recession just brings this attitude out a little more.
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    Image of skahammer skahammer
    04/09/09

    @lolacat(Team Bethenny): I guess you wouldn't believe me if I said I enjoy reading about creative solutions to difficult problems.
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    Image of Residentdrunkgirl Residentdrunkgirl
    04/09/09

    In reply to National Obsession With Kept Women Continues This Weekend
    Wait - this is just Millionaire Matchmaker.
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    Image of clevernamehere clevernamehere
    04/09/09

    In reply to National Obsession With Kept Women Continues This Weekend
    I find the whole thing really sad, but it really pisses me off that they are willing to change the name on the credit card transaction. That's crossing the line from offering a service to supporting dishonesty. I wonder how long before they are named in someone's divorce lawsuit.
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    Image of K K
    04/09/09

    @clevernamehere: I don't see this as being any different than porn companies or strip clubs billing credit cards with a neutral sounding name. Yes, this may be, "supporting dishonesty," but shit, it's not the porn king/strip club/web site's responsibility to make sure these guys are honest. That's their own deal.
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    Image of badmutha badmutha
    04/09/09

    @clevernamehere: You can always put a legal name instead of DBA or "Doing Business as." That is done all. the. time.
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    Image of clevernamehere clevernamehere
    04/09/09

    @K: Porn companies don't just put different names on bills so wifey doesn't get mad, it is also because some people are just embarassed to have their accountant see the amount they spend on porn.


    This is being marketed as something you can hide from your wife.

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    Image of Nodiva Nodiva
    04/09/09

    In reply to National Obsession With Kept Women Continues This Weekend
    The thing is, there is something a little attractive in a kind of 'quasi-prostitution' - one where there's no sleaze, the john is successful, regular and good-looking, and the payoff isn't hard cash. Even with a job etc., I can't say I've never (fleetingly) considered it.
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    Image of clevernamehere clevernamehere
    04/09/09

    @Nodiva: I really doubt that many guys who visit this site are good looking. Sure there is an element of "you pay her to leave" but I'm sure most of them aren't very good looking. That's why they are offering money for sex.
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