A guy tried to fell me up on the 7 last year -- it was amazing overcrowded, because all the underground lines were fucked because of flooding.
I felt a hand on my breast. And I threw my right hook. It's a punch that requires you be close to your target, and doesn't take much room to hit properly.
Cattle prods can be had via mail order for less than $50.
If the cops can't do anything about some motherfucker whacking off on me, they have no excuse for doing something about me using a couple jillion volts on his taint.
A couple of years ago, I read a totally awesome article about groping on the London Tube. It featured a woman who grabbed the guy's hand, held it up, and shouted, "Does this belong to anyone? It seems to have gotten attached to my bum!" as the owner of the hand blushed in shame.
It seems clear these per(v)ps have very little brainpower in the "if-then" department.
With the modern prevalence of tasers and the ease of fist-to-genital contact, these guys are, no pun intended, really taking their lives into their own hands.
@AndPreciousLittleofThat: Actually I think these guys know that there is a very slim chance they will be physically harmed when they do this. They rely on their victims being too scared, surprised, and socially conditioned not to cause a ruckus to defend themselves.
@Benevolent_Dictatrix (patently absurd): I have to agree. Especially since so many of them rely on exactly the same thing that many office harassers or even molesters rely on – the self-doubt of the victim. So many of these comments include women who weren't sure at first if it was an accident or harassment, which is natural (and I'm the same way), but we let things go way further than most men would out of fear that we'll be wrong. Or we'll make a stink and be embarrassed. Or we seriously cant believe someone would be that crude then, upon interpreting the event afterwards, realize what really happened and we want to kick ourselves.
It is so encouraging that they even consider this (and women's quality of life) a problem. At the very least, it gives victims incentive to report it when it happens – even if that's usually the last thing you want to do.
And the fact that so many are sex offenders is creepy. Sort of makes the argument that these guys think they're offering compliments, or that they're totally harmless, a little harder to believe.
You know for all the crap NY gets for being rude or apathetic, people on the subway tend to band together in really awesome ways. I've had people (mostly women but not always) steer me away from creepy dudes, tell someone to shuttup or quietly let me know when an item of clothing has, unbeknownst to me, started revealing a bit more than I meant for it to. On an unrelated to sexual harrasment note, last week I was on the train, mumbling something about how my mouth tasted like beer and this woman just turned around handed me a piece of gum and said yup, I've been there. In other words, I love my city.
@futuremouse: Just to note, I do not mean to suggest that subway harassment is not a serious issue. Just wanted to share some examples of people being awesome.
@futuremouse: It's so true. Also, there was a piece on Slate recently about how sociologist have often studied subway riders, because the environment puts strangers of all sorts together and then they do interesting things -- like give a piece of gum away. [www.slate.com]
I have, however, been subway harassed. Usually later at night, uncrowded car. It's the worse and has given me on a taxis only late night rule.
Another problem with the PSAs? They lead to really awkward moments. I was on the subway once, and there was a little girl who was reading (out loud) all the signs. She reached that one, didn't know the words, and looked to her mom for help. I don't remember exactly how the mom responded but I think it was something like 'Let's just skip the words in red for now, okay dear? Move on to the next sign.'
ETA: Not that they couldn't lead to good conversations with kids of the right age.
I'm lucky, I've never had a problem on the NYC subway (although I don't live there so I am obviously not on it every day), but have had horrible luck in other cities (Boston especially). I always love how people scoff at how pissy New Yorkers are. If they rode the subway a few times I suspect they would understand. Keep your earbuds in and your eye contact to a minimum.
I feel so horrible for women who have experienced more extreme (i.e. someone jerking off on them) harassment. Something like that might put me off the train for a few days.
@Penny: True fact: I've only spent about a half an hour of my life in NYC, and that was because I took a bus from the airport to Grand Central Station so that I could take a train to Connecticut.
I feel as though I've missed out on so many opportunities to be harassed and/or entertained.
I've been traveling to India for the past 4 years to work for an NGO that assists with female empowerment opportunities (education, labor skills, support groups, microcredit schemes) amongst the tribal and rural populations in So. India.
After twenty five years, we are seeing results in the community because the MEN have realized that they do better, and well everybody is better off when the village's women are in a better more equitable position.
It really is a culture thing over there.
I actually almost got into a good amount of trouble for 'eve teasing' when I was at the terminal in Bangalore's Airport. I was sitting next to a colleague who happened to be non-Indian, White, and we were just talking as usual when a female constable and two guards came over and asked me to pick up my bags and come with them. Needless to say, 15 of being lectured on 'proper' behavior in the presence of 'Westerners' and a 500 rupee fine made sitting on a 19 hour flight the least of my problems.
I understand that eve teasing can be a real nuisance over there though. A good many of the 'common men' there just don't know. They really don't know and have never been told that you just can't urinate on the side of the road. You just can't walk up to people and pinch them. It seems to be more of a class issue than anything else, and thats a whole other bag of beans.
This is fantastic. It is going to take generations-worth of work to get men to change how they treat/think of women. Which should be done, but this solves a problem NOW.
I'm doing research on why girls in the developing world often drop out of school when they get to secondary school, and one of the leading factors is an unsafe commute. Having safer trains hugely impacts that.
So basically, Ladies' Specials everywhere, please!
I think this is a good idea as long as the Ladies' cars are OPTIONAL and as long as men are simultaneously sent a message that their behavior is NOT okay. Otherwise we're just punishing the victims of the crimes. Looks like India is doing is right so far (although there is no mention of how they plan to combat the inappropriate behavior. I hope there is one).
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I felt a hand on my breast. And I threw my right hook. It's a punch that requires you be close to your target, and doesn't take much room to hit properly.
SOB gasped in pain and got off at the next stop.
11/19/09
If the cops can't do anything about some motherfucker whacking off on me, they have no excuse for doing something about me using a couple jillion volts on his taint.
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She is my hero, most days.
11/19/09
With the modern prevalence of tasers and the ease of fist-to-genital contact, these guys are, no pun intended, really taking their lives into their own hands.
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And the fact that so many are sex offenders is creepy. Sort of makes the argument that these guys think they're offering compliments, or that they're totally harmless, a little harder to believe.
I'm sure everyone at hollabacknyc.com is happy!
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I have, however, been subway harassed. Usually later at night, uncrowded car. It's the worse and has given me on a taxis only late night rule.
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ETA: Not that they couldn't lead to good conversations with kids of the right age.
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I feel so horrible for women who have experienced more extreme (i.e. someone jerking off on them) harassment. Something like that might put me off the train for a few days.
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I feel as though I've missed out on so many opportunities to be harassed and/or entertained.
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For shame!
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09/16/09
I am going to start randomly cockpunching men and calling it Adam Teasing until THEY have to get THEIR own special safe place.
I am usually not a man-hating feminist. I am usually a very loving feminist. But this shit just makes me want to crush fucking balls.
09/16/09
After twenty five years, we are seeing results in the community because the MEN have realized that they do better, and well everybody is better off when the village's women are in a better more equitable position.
It really is a culture thing over there.
I actually almost got into a good amount of trouble for 'eve teasing' when I was at the terminal in Bangalore's Airport. I was sitting next to a colleague who happened to be non-Indian, White, and we were just talking as usual when a female constable and two guards came over and asked me to pick up my bags and come with them. Needless to say, 15 of being lectured on 'proper' behavior in the presence of 'Westerners' and a 500 rupee fine made sitting on a 19 hour flight the least of my problems.
I understand that eve teasing can be a real nuisance over there though. A good many of the 'common men' there just don't know. They really don't know and have never been told that you just can't urinate on the side of the road. You just can't walk up to people and pinch them. It seems to be more of a class issue than anything else, and thats a whole other bag of beans.
09/16/09
I'm doing research on why girls in the developing world often drop out of school when they get to secondary school, and one of the leading factors is an unsafe commute. Having safer trains hugely impacts that.
So basically, Ladies' Specials everywhere, please!
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