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    Stupak Amendment Energizes Both Sides Of Abortion Debate

    Mind The Stop Signs

    Even Wild Horses Need Their Girlfriends • Fire Turns Irwin Land Into An "Animal Graveyard"

    Pro-Choice Dems Vow To Kill Stupak Amendment

    Rachel Maddow Discusses Stupak Amendment On Meet The Press

    Anti-Choice Democrats Hold Up Healthcare Bill

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    Image of Le Kangourou de Kataroo Le Kangourou de Kataroo
    11/24/09

    In reply to Stupak Amendment Energizes Both Sides Of Abortion Debate
    GET THE FUCKING BISHOPS OUT OF THIS GODDAMN DEBATE!

    I did not elect them. I am not Catholic. I am not represented by them. If the media just STOPS paying attention to them, maybe they'll go away.
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    Image of Agumen Agumen
    11/24/09

    @Le Kangourou de Kataroo: There are many religious people who they do represent. People have a right to religion and a right to representation.

    You may not like it, but taking away their right to debate and argue would be wrong. They aren't the ones making law, they're just putting the religious argument across. More tolerance is needed.
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    Image of virginiawoolf virginiawoolf
    11/24/09

    @Agumen: Maybe it's just me but if they want to hold on to their tax-exempt status, they should refrain from spouting off their opinion regarding political issues, period.

    Otherwise, I'm sure this economy would benefit quite well from taxing those mother fuckers like every other business.
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    Image of Le Kangourou de Kataroo Le Kangourou de Kataroo
    11/24/09

    @Agumen: They are NOT just putting the religious argument across. They are essentially telling congresspeople that they either vote THEIR way or they will pull all support. They're not speaking in a political vacuum.
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    Image of SarahMC SarahMC
    11/24/09

    @Agumen: The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops is one of the most powerful lobbying organizations in America. The Stupak amendment was practically written by Catholic Bishops.
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    Image of bitingfairy bitingfairy
    11/24/09

    In reply to Stupak Amendment Energizes Both Sides Of Abortion Debate
    I want my right to pick and choose what my tax dollars fund! I'm gonna start sticking notes to my returns saying that I'm totally cool with this funding abortions, but no wars please.
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    Image of lilbobbytables lilbobbytables
    11/24/09

    @bitingfairy: I want all my tax dollars going to healthcare and schools. That's it! Please refund the rest in a check payable to Cash!
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    Image of Benevolent_Dictatrix (patently absurd) Benevolent_Dictatrix (patently absurd)
    11/24/09

    @lilbobbytables: I want all my taxes going to NEA grant recipients who use feces and religious imagery in their art, and that's IT. Got it, IRS?
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    Image of limber limber
    11/24/09

    @Benevolent_Dictatrix (patently absurd): I want mine going to that secret UFO research I totally know exists! and ONLY them!

    And then when they accept my tax filing, thus proving there IS a secret programme? Sweet confirmation, baby. And they won't even realize they did it.
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    Image of HannahBethD HannahBethD
    11/24/09

    @limber: i just read your comment in Jack Hodgins from BONES voice and it made me chortle. Thanks.
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    Image of suzannelb suzannelb
    11/24/09

    @bitingfairy: Agreed! Put me down for Head Start and the part of Rahm Emanuel's salary that keeps him in charcoal grey suits.
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    Image of bitingfairy bitingfairy
    11/24/09

    @suzannelb: Rahm gets none of my money! I want him so destitute that he has to walk around Washington in nothing but a tiny towel.
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    Image of bluetrain84 bluetrain84
    11/24/09

    In reply to Stupak Amendment Energizes Both Sides Of Abortion Debate
    Ha, it's funny that the guy from the US Conference of Catholic Bishops wants "everybody covered and nobody deliberately killed." That statement encompasses both ends of the political spectrum all at once (liberals who want universal coverage, conservatives who are anti-choice), good luck achieving both of those goals simultaneously. Also, I assume by "everybody" he actually means US citizens, I strongly doubt that he wants undocumented workers covered.
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    Image of fauxfruit fauxfruit
    11/24/09

    @bluetrain84: Or women, really, when their lives are at risk due to pregnancy complications and they cannot depend on insurance to cover the procedure that will save their lives.
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    Image of spamanda spamanda
    11/24/09

    @bluetrain84: I'm really pro-choice, but honestly that sentiment is how I think TRUE christians should feel. Everyone should be taken care of and no one deliberately be killed. I can see why anti-choice people would feel this way.
    Of course, I also believe this extends to wars and to the death penalty....
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    Image of Lymed Lymed
    11/24/09

    @bluetrain84: The Catholic Church actually supports the rights of immigrants, including undocumented workers. The Church supports immigration reform and some Catholic churches that have opened themselves up as safe havens to undocumented immigrants.
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    Image of jemandtheholograms jemandtheholograms
    11/24/09

    @Lymed: That's awesome and I totally support that. But being as we live in a country that theoretically separates Church and State, I don't want the Catholic Church being part of the discussion on healthcare.
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    Image of Lymed Lymed
    11/24/09

    @jemandtheholograms: I don't want the Catholic church involved in the discussion on healthcare either. However, they are actually a huge health care provider in this country. There are very large Catholic health systems that run hospitals and I think that is one reason they are getting so much attention talking about reform.
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    Image of jemandtheholograms jemandtheholograms
    11/24/09

    @Lymed: Fair point. They do have a lot of hospitals. I just wish that there was a way to separate the fact that they are providing health care as a religious institution and the religion (which I guess is sort of opposite of the point, but wishful thinking).

    #tips
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    Image of bluetrain84 bluetrain84
    11/24/09

    @Lymed: Oh, I didn't know that they had an official stand like that, thank you for pointing it out! I was just commenting that those two ideals are generally on opposite sides of the political spectrum rather than being considered together.

    #tips
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    11/22/09

    In reply to Mind The Stop Signs
    yay! For DC Jezzies and those who will be in the area, Planned Parenthood has a national lobby day on December 2 to ensure access to abortion is included in the health care bill. Its on a Wednesday, unfortch, and I have work but might come during lunch.

    [www.ppaction.org]
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    Image of curiousgeorgiana curiousgeorgiana
    11/22/09

    @pantsless economist...access RESTORED: All, please go. I have a final the next day and won't be able to. PLEASE GO!!!!
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    Image of sweet_communist sweet_communist
    11/22/09

    @pantsless economist...access RESTORED: I've signed up to attend, but I'm not sure how I'll get there. I live in Richmond, and recently had foot surgery, so I'll have to rely on a carpool and have access to seating. Nevertheless, I'm going to try my damnedest to go.
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    Image of Kilotwat Kilotwat
    11/16/09

    In reply to Even Wild Horses Need Their Girlfriends • Fire Turns Irwin Land Into An "Animal Graveyard"
    A quibble with the above write-up

    For the first time in decades, the U.S. skating team has no clear-cut Olympic medal contender.

    While that is painfully true in the ladies skating, there are other disciplines in figure skating, too. The US currently boasts the reigning world champion in men's figure skating (Evan Lysacek) and the reigning silver medalists in ice dancing (Belbin and Agosto). They've been performing well this season, too: all three just won Skate America in their respective fields. We'll see Ol' Glory hoisted over that icy podium yet. #horses
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    11/16/09

    In reply to Even Wild Horses Need Their Girlfriends • Fire Turns Irwin Land Into An "Animal Graveyard"

    There's Kim Yu Na of South Korea, the woman who's a good bet to win the Olympic gold. She's skating to a medley of James Bond music for her short program. #horses
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    Image of La Chica Lucy La Chica Lucy
    11/16/09

    In reply to Even Wild Horses Need Their Girlfriends • Fire Turns Irwin Land Into An "Animal Graveyard"
    I was hoping Jezebel would post that coat hanger link! #horses
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    Image of J.D.Regent J.D.Regent
    11/16/09

    In reply to Even Wild Horses Need Their Girlfriends • Fire Turns Irwin Land Into An "Animal Graveyard"
    am I reading that British sex ed article wrong? It seems like it says their approaches DID work? #horses
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    Image of Kivrin Kivrin
    11/16/09

    @J.D.Regent: That article appears to be saying two different things. I am totally confused. #horses
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    11/16/09

    In reply to Even Wild Horses Need Their Girlfriends • Fire Turns Irwin Land Into An "Animal Graveyard"
    I wonder if all the male horses stand on the perimeter and complain to each other about how the female horses walk away with a sneer when they go up behind them and start grinding awkwardly. And then stare down the girl horses while trying to figure out why they can't get a date. #horses
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    Image of J.D.Regent J.D.Regent
    11/16/09

    In reply to Even Wild Horses Need Their Girlfriends • Fire Turns Irwin Land Into An "Animal Graveyard"
    wait, you can look up UNPROVEN ALLEGATIONS against people? that can't be right. #horses
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    Image of Zombies make the heart grow fonder Zombies make the heart grow fonder
    11/16/09

    @J.D.Regent: Yeah, that was my exact reaction... #horses
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    Image of formergr formergr
    11/16/09

    @J.D.Regent: Yeah, that sounds a little too like that website Don'tDateHimGirl.com, or whatever it is... #horses
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    Image of Elaken Elaken
    11/16/09

    @J.D.Regent: I don't have qualms with it because they are talking about serial abusers and men with allegations from several different women. It isn't as if a guy gets accused once and than put on the list. #horses
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    Image of yvanehtnioj yvanehtnioj
    11/16/09

    In reply to Even Wild Horses Need Their Girlfriends • Fire Turns Irwin Land Into An "Animal Graveyard"
    That Gaddafi snippet is comedy gold. I'm not even going to follow the link, because nuance might kill my buzz. #horses
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    Image of AuntPenny AuntPenny
    11/09/09

    In reply to Pro-Choice Dems Vow To Kill Stupak Amendment
    I'm one of those "anti-choice" women who doesn't think this elective procedure should be covered by insurance. Not all of us are cold-hearted idiots. Most of us, in fact, aren't.
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    morninggloria promoted this comment Edited by AuntPenny at 11/09/09 4:47 PM AuntPenny was starred AuntPenny was unstarred
    Image of morninggloria morninggloria
    11/09/09

    @all:

    PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLL.

    This commenter only magically appears when there are contentious abortion related posts.

    DO NOT FEED THE TROLL. #healthcarereform
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    LaComtesse promoted this comment morninggloria was starred morninggloria was unstarred
    Image of serreca serreca
    11/09/09

    @morninggloria: But she has a star... ? #healthcarereform
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    morninggloria promoted this comment serreca was starred serreca was unstarred
    Image of morninggloria morninggloria
    11/09/09

    @serreca: It's from other Gawker Media sites.

    The only time I've noticed this person on Jezebel is when they've decided they want to get in an anti-choice argument. #healthcarereform
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    Image of RiloKilo RiloKilo
    11/09/09

    In reply to Pro-Choice Dems Vow To Kill Stupak Amendment
    I know this is off-topic, but I'm really interested and I don't know if anyone is still reading the original post from earlier about health care reform. Can someone explain to me what the current state of the bill means for undocumented workers? Can they not receive health care, period? #healthcarereform
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    Lymed promoted this comment RiloKilo was starred RiloKilo was unstarred
    Image of Lymed Lymed
    11/09/09

    @RiloKilo: In the House Bill, undocumented workers will not be able to purchase the public plan or a plan offered on the exchange. My understanding is that they can still have insurance if offered through their employer or they can purchase individual coverage outside of the exchange. #healthcarereform
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    Image of RiloKilo RiloKilo
    11/09/09

    @Lymed: Okay, thanks for that info!
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    Image of mordicai mordicai
    11/09/09

    In reply to Pro-Choice Dems Vow To Kill Stupak Amendment
    Sargent, you don't have to say it is a significant step backward for "advocates of abortion rights and women's health issues." It is much quicker & easier to say "women." #healthcarereform
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    serreca promoted this comment mordicai was starred mordicai was unstarred
    Image of serreca serreca
    11/09/09

    @mordicai: Sadly, there are a lot of women out there who think abortion should be illegal. I know some of them. #healthcarereform
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    Image of SarahMC SarahMC
    11/09/09

    @serreca: Even anti-choice women need reproductive health care sometimes, even as they protest it. #healthcarereform
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    Image of serreca serreca
    11/09/09

    @SarahMC: Oh I know. It's totally a case of "The Only Moral Abortion Is My Abortion" ([mypage.direct.ca]). And they don't realize that taking away one facet of reproductive health care is a slippery slope to start sliding down. #healthcarereform
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    Image of mordicai mordicai
    11/09/09

    @serreca: Whether they are for or against it, it is still their rights that are getting tossed in the shredder. #healthcarereform
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    11/09/09

    In reply to Pro-Choice Dems Vow To Kill Stupak Amendment
    I'm trying really hard not to get too worked up about this because I KNOW that there are at least two more iterations of this bill to come before it's all said and done. This is seriously why I quit poli sci. I don't have the patience for this shit. #healthcarereform
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