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cand86
10/08/09

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What I don't understand is WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH PEE?

I mean, I love female ejaculation. I like watching it in porn. I like it happening in real life. I even did it for the first time ever only a few weeks ago (though I have yet to repeat the fluke, despite quite a bit of trying). I think it's important and beautiful to show and to see- to know that it is normal, natural, and can be a turn-on.

And while I think it's pretty silly when squirting is faked in porn and it's just urine, I find it offensive just because it's faked, not because it's urine.

Some people have urine fetishes. Urine is safe and sterile (unlike, say, scat). I just don't see what the big deal is if you have everybody in a porn movie peeing all over each other and bathing in a yellow-filled kiddie pool.

Of course, I'm still pretty pissed that the British Board Of Film Classification didn't pass the lesbian-porn-by-and-for-lesbians "Candy Stars Uncensored". Grrr.
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kityglitr
10/08/09

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I'm getting the feeling that the board believes FE to be the same thing as pissing because when FE is portrayed in pornography, it often IS pissing. FE exists, but rarely is it truly depicted in pornography. I'm not saying there is no porn with real, honest to goddess FE, but rather, it is a rarity.
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little_librarian
10/08/09

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I think a big reason why there is much debate about the existence of female ejaculation and the G spot orgasm is that some men are very threatened by the sexual functions of women that they don't understand.

It's like when a man is upset and takes it personally when he can't make a woman have an orgasm on command. So much of being masculine in our society is the ability to "please your woman", so when they can't easily do that, they don't feel manly.

I started thinking on this when a friend of mine who was saying how he doesn't want any of his girlfriends to ever have vibrators. I asked him why and he said, flat out, he's scared of how he'll measure up, and that she won't "need" him.

This kind of attitude pisses me off quite a bit. It makes it seem like women only start up and continue relationships with men only because of the sexual aspect, and I feel that takes away the significance a real loving relationship can have.

I told him he was really scared of a woman who is confident sexually and who knows how to please herself. That can be a very threatening thing for some men. I also think that's a factor of why virgins are such a fetish as well.
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Eriu
10/08/09

@little_librarian: To add to your second paragraph, what follows is women staying in relationships that give them NO sexual pleasure without speaking up and saying "HEY, UR DOIN IT RONG" and faking it to protect their guy's delicate ego. This, among other things, has created a culture of hooking up that is 100% about the male orgasm and women get no pleasure at all. I have multiple friends who don't orgasm from anything other than masturbation, and unfortunately they're in the majority. It really saddens me that SO many women have completely pleasureless sex.
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little_librarian
10/08/09

@Eriu: Yes, you are so right on. I also know women in relationships like that, where any kind of mention of female pleasure is considered practically taboo.

Add what you said to the fact that some men think porn is an instructional tool, and it can make for a pretty miserable time.
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Eriu
10/08/09

@little_librarian: Oy, porn may be the biggest culprit of all when it comes to most men thinking they're TOTALLY AWESOME in bed when actually they suck, and women thinking that moaning indiscriminately makes them good at sex, further convincing the dudes.
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Conrad
10/08/09

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Donate your bodies to science. It's the only way.

There are enough male bodies out there, we need women and children. For Science!
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Schushner
10/08/09

@Conrad: Reading Mary Roach's book "Stiff" made me want to donate my body to science! (I must admit, it's more because of the crazy adventures I can be a part of after death than altuistic reasons)
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anteup
10/08/09

@Conrad:
Is there really a shortage of female cadavers?
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Conrad
10/08/09

@anteup: yes
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Conrad
10/08/09

@Schushner: I want to donate my body (after reading stiff) to car accident science.
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bowleserised
10/08/09

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I was once lectured by a tremendously patronising male sexologist about how women who ejaculated were just deluding themselves.
Unfortunately it wasn't in a situation where I could respond: "Well, it doesn't surprise me that YOU have never witnessed it."
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I_can_still_pitch
10/08/09

@bowleserised: Oh female ejaculation is real, and it's fabulous.
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bowleserised
10/09/09

@I_can_still_pitch: Tell it to him. I'm a believer.
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I_can_still_pitch
10/08/09

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Not for nothin', but Squirt soda is dee-licious.
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RunawayPancake
10/08/09

@I_can_still_pitch:
. . . with vodka, or is it gin. Try both!
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lilliputzian
10/08/09

@RunawayPancake: mix it with tequila and a saladito w/some lime and you have a "cheat-arita". i forget what the actual name is for them in Mexico...
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LaFemme
10/08/09

@lilliputzian: Paloma!!
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RunawayPancake
10/09/09

@lilliputzian:
sounds deelish - i love tequila/margaritas - can't wait to try a paloma
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lilliputzian
10/09/09

@LaFemme: thank you for clearing that up. the only spanish i ever seem to remember is terrible insults. granted, they find their way into my everyday vernacular on a more regular basis, but they're not as useful overall.
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FizzyGood
10/08/09

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I think what the BBFC (the BBFCC is apparently the 'British Border Fancy Canary Club', which is, I assume, not what you meant) is trying to say is that IN PORN a lot of female porn stars fake squirting by urinating, for obvious reasons (I know from experience that you don't ejaculate every time you orgasm, even if you do ejaculate, and I doubt they come very often while they're working anyway). I'm a fan of the BBFC in general, I've got to say, especially compared to the US equivalent.
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agentsee
10/08/09

@FizzyGood: No necessarily true. I know a lot of women, one firsthand, that can control female ejaculation. It's like wiggling a nose, etc. All about control and some women can do it on command.
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brokenscope
10/08/09

@FizzyGood: There is no US equivalent.
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Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.
10/08/09

@FizzyGood: How could you possibly know that a female porn start is faking? And how could you possible prove they are urinating? Just because you don't ejaculate every time you orgasm doesn't mean other women don't ejaculate every time they orgasm.
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FizzyGood
10/08/09

@Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: How could you prove they're not urinating? That's the POINT. I'm not judging anybody here, ffs, and maybe other women do ejaculate every which way at the drop of a hat, I don't know - fair enough, I was extrapolating from too little evidence. Sorry. I'm just giving a different perspective on why the BBFC has the rules it does.
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FizzyGood
10/08/09

@brokenscope: I was referring to the MPAA, which is different, you're right. But the BBFC isn't some kind of crazed censorship machine either, it has a couple of rules I don't agree with, but it's not that big a deal I don't think.
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FizzyGood
10/08/09

@FizzyGood: Can I also point out that the BBFC didn't come up with the obscenity law which disallows urine in a sexual context? It's a stupid law, I agree, but the BBFC is just enforcing it.
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lalaland13
10/08/09

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I saw a Squirt bottle in the convenience store today and had to hold back a giggle.

I've read up on the female ejaculation stuff, and as far as I can tell it's not identical to peeing, but there could be a little pee in there. Which kind of lines up with the experiences of a vagina of my acquaintance. Said vagina also has to reassure its owner that it does not make them gross if there is some in there. That's what towels are for.
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cait98
10/08/09

@lalaland13: You know, semen has traces of pee in it too because it comes out the same hole. So does female ejaculate, but it is NOT pee.
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Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.
10/08/09

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How is it possible that the BBFCC can deny an actual medical fact? Wouldn't there be some kind of sexual discrimination in their ban, being that it is medically proven the female ejaculation is not urine and that by it very nature it can only happen to women?

Trying to convince men you didn't just urinate on them is hard enough, imagine how difficult it must be with the British Film Classification Board actually supporting the idea that it is urine. I see a generation of teen age girls (and other self conscious women) cringing in embarrassment over something that A. they can't control and B. HAS BEEN MEDICALLY DISPROVED!!!!!
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thePrototype
10/08/09

@Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: The part about teenagers is so true. I wish that we had comprehensive sex education that would teach about normal bodily functions so that young girls won't be embarrassed or hold back on their pleasure.
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Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.
10/08/09

@thePrototype: I can just picture a girl ejaculating and being ridiculed by her sexual partner. That's the kind of thing that gets around school as "I fucked so and so and she totally PEED on me while we were doing it." Then you become the PEE girl. I mean that's kind of exactly what the BBFC is doing to all women in porn. It's like they are writing " I FUCKED A PORN STAR AND SHE PEED ON ME" on the bathroom wall.
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thePrototype
10/08/09

@Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: It's too bad that they are so ashamed of natural functions. My husband told me about the first time he made a girl ejaculate (he was 17, she was 15), and they had no idea what had happened and she was so ashamed and after that she was really afraid of orgasming. I was lucky, I was around the same age, but the guy knew what was going on, and it has always just been a natural thing for me.

Could you imagine the outrage in schools if this was actually taught?

re: ejaculation in porn, it has helped a lot of women and men out by normalizing it, but on the other hand I do think that it has brought up expectations for women to ejaculate. It's a bit of a double edged sword.
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kookla
10/08/09

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Leave it to those whacky Brits to try to figure out if a woman is coming or going.
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yet i
10/08/09

@kookla: oh man, if it weren't already up, this would get my vote for COTD.
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kookla
10/08/09

@yet i: The story of my life!
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morninggloria
10/08/09

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Of course female ejaculation and urination are interchangable.

It's perfectly acceptable to say, "Don't drink too much coffee before a long road trip. You'll have to ejaculate every two hours."
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stonebiscuit rolled a 1 on initiative
10/08/09

@morninggloria: I can't wait to talk to my children about ejaculating the bed!
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morninggloria
10/08/09

@stonebiscuit has a phd in horribleness: I can't wait to teach them how to ejaculate on the big girl potty.
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kookla
10/08/09

@morninggloria: But, it's going to get confusing when your daughter's laugh so hard they ejaculate their pants.
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Eriu
10/08/09

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The disbelief in female ejaculation and G-spot orgasm annoy me to no end as someone who has both regularly. Myths about the former make it awkward when it happens, and myths about the latter only add to the laundry list of reasons why so many dudes are terrible at pleasing women, or don't care/try, thus perpetuating the myth. It really creeps me out on a deep level that we as a society don't want to believe that these types of female pleasure exist.
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Suffragettestream the Office Hussy
10/08/09

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Some women can squirt and some cannot and both are ok. I have tried all forms of stimulation on my own and with partners and cannot, so I'm really getting tired of this pervasive expectation trying to make me feel like I'm a failure at sex because I can't or trying to make the man feel like a failure because he can't get me to do it.

I have orgasms, they're great, I don't need to make a mess to have fun.
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Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini
10/08/09

@Office Hussy: I'm confused how this fits with what's being discussed here. Isn't this issue about trying to make female ejaculation legitimate in public discourse, since it is so rare and misunderstood? I'm pretty sure that is the exact opposite of female ejaculation as a pervasive expectation.
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Suffragettestream the Office Hussy
10/08/09

@Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini: what liberatedword and Babyfem said. I don't agree that f.e. is rare in public discourse
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telecomic the thoughtful red panda
10/08/09

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Finally my British friends will now be able to understand the skills of Tianna Lynn.
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10/08/09

@telecomic the thoughtful red panda: And, don't Google that at work unless you work for Vivid.
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badmutha
10/08/09

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It looks like these people would rather call it the "dark incontinent" instead, because they think we are peeing instead of ejaculating.
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