I have only the deepest admiration for anyone who manages to get anything done without coffee.
If I tried to write a book while abstaining from coffee/DC, it would quickly devolve into a bitchy diatribe, and abruptly end after three pages when I face-plant in to my keyboard. DISBFJSBDJBFDJBFJER #twihards
@goodcheapfun: Twilight was the first thing she had ever written, and it started out very small. The first movie had a tiny budget for what it was. None of it was handed to her, and it was pretty unlikely for it to become as enormous as it has. She's someone completely normal who became ridiculously successful doing something she loved - it's a pretty good underdog story. #twihards
I know people generally don't like the Harry Potter/Twilight or Rowling/Meyer comparisons, but I think - and I say this as both an avid Harry Potter fan and Twilight hater - for an article like this it makes sense, since we're talking about the two authors' similar reactions to their fame and success, and not about the quality of their respective works.
Reading this actually makes me think of Meyer in a better light, or at least improves my image of her from what it was after the whole Midnight Sun debacle (seriously? someone leaking the rough drafts causes you to just give up on the book entirely? as an artist myself, I can't think of anyone else who would be that sensitive about their work and really it just seemed incredibly self-righteous to me). It makes it seem, for one, like she really cares about her family and understands the negative consequences that can come from being the kid or spouse of a famous name. It would be nice if we had more people reacting this way and less people like the Gosselins, for instance, who don't seem to care who they have to step on in pursuit of their 15 minutes.
My 13 yr old self would have massively crushed on Alice Cullen, but being raised Catholic, would have said to anyone that asked that it was Jacob I liked. #love
I think the reason people hate private famous people is two-fold: a) simply out of pure selfishness that they're not getting the dirt they want on the person, and b) because, if reality shows have shown us anything, it's that there are a lot of people who are dying for their 15 minutes of fame and will do anything to get it, so they're resentful when someone who actually is famous isn't taking advantage of every interview and TV appearance that comes their way, like they're squandering some "privilege" of theirs. These really extroverted, fame-loving people don't quite understand that not everybody does see being hounded by the press as a "privilege," and that even they might get sick of it after a while.
As a fairly private person myself, I can more than sympathize with Meyer trying to limit her time in the public eye. When I was little I wanted to be famous, but slowly realized how much that would deprive me of the things I love to do. It really made me cringe when reading an interview with Angelina Jolie, I found out she really misses being able to people-watch in public places like the subway and malls and of course can't do that anymore. Now my idea is more to be notable rather than famous. Enough that people in my field will recognize my name, and I might get the occasional interview, but not enough that it restricts my strong need for privacy and autonomy. #twihards
oooo I get so mad when JK Rowling's name (or Harry Potter) get mentioned with this series......I can some BASE similarities (a series, dealing with 'fantasy', and popular), but the two series are on completely different levels. Meyer is not a good writer. Books 2-4 were boring, predictable, and cheesy. The first book was good, but only because she had the new, exciting introduction to the characters that she then couldn't rely on for the rest. Meyer is no Rowling. #twihards
@sweetypie4now: I totally agree. and I say that as both a Twilight and Harry Potter fan. I love both series for completely different reasons. HP I feel is a perfect series, and Twilight is a guilty pleasure. #twihards
I think that so many truly mediocre people - like Jon Gosselin - push themselves so far into our faces, that we assume that everybody wants their chance at celebrity. It's a life style that you either want because you think its fabulous, or have to have to make money in some artistic ventures. It's got to the point where we are suspicious when people don't clamour for our attention #twihards
A writer wanting a private life makes a lot of sense. The writers I've known have been largely introverted, introspective people who are observers of others, and not attention-seeking at all. Writers spend a great deal of time in their own heads, working by themselves, so it seems logical that they'd continue that even after great success.
Even when that success involves sparkling, Volvo-driving vampires. #twihards
Any writers I see on tv are on shows like Real Time With Bill Maher or Charlie Rose, talking about ideas, not their personal lives.
Stephanie Meyer is a writer, even if you don't think she's that great at it, and she deserves to be treated the same way we treat other writers. Nobody cares about Malcolm Gladwell's weight or hair or what he does or doesn't drink. #twihards
It's worth noting that nothing written in the Daily Mail is generally worth noting.
It's a publication that makes "In Style" look like a paticularly deep issue of "Granta".
I've interviewed Neil Gaiman, Cory Doctorow and Poppy Z. Brite, very different people in personality and style, but all of them talked about their writing regimine, making time for their families, and enjoying being at home after going on the road pushing their latest books. Successful authors need to make time to refresh, relax and WRITE.
The supernova pop-star writer who appears out of nowhere and conquers publishing is often a one hit wonder. Like her stuff of not, Meyer is building a career.
And I know that Stephen King quote is dated, but considering the 1000 page shit-mess he just dropped in the form of "Under the Dome" maybe he should consider practicing some of that "Twilight silence" that Meyer is being accused of?
@moifauxmail: Good point about the source. The Daily Mail is roughly on par with the Enquirer - but with a markedly sexist and conservative slant. #twihards
I thoght Meyers was pretty active online with her fans, in a BNF livejournal childish "don't cross me or I'll take my ball and go home" sort of way. Like how she found out people leaked her stupid "rewrite book 1 from Edward's perspective" and she threw a fit online.
No, I amnot active in twilight comms, this is gossip from friends who read that fandom wank lj.
@pantsless economist...access RESTORED: I so love XKCD and that comic made me laugh so, so hard when I first read it. I had fully forgotten about it though, so I'm all smiley to read it again. #twihards
I find that less I know about my favorite artists, the better I am able to enjoy their works. Seeing as I know nothing about Stephanie Meyers, I am certain that my hatred for Twilight is based solely on her crappy writing and promotion of domestic abuse as true love.
Also, how many authors have reached the celebrity of people like Brad and Angie? The only one I can think of is Truman Capote and that was more a result of his personality, not his career choice. #twihards
@ZombieEmpress: Celebrity like Brad and Angie? Probably not a lot. But there have been plenty of authors who have been celebrities -- Thompson, Wilde, Gaiman, Rice, Fitzgerald, Rand, Rowling, Frey, Hemmingway, Ginsgerg, Kerouac, Capote. That's just off the top of my head -- I'm sure there's plenty I'm missing. #twihards
@SlayBelle: At least a few of those have become celebrities because their writing is so wrapped up in who they are and their personalities. An example you didn't mention is Elizabeth Wurtzel, who's a pretty good contrast to Stephanie Meyer. Elizabeth is a fantastic writer, but her personality is such a big part of everything she does that it turns a lot of people off. If you don't like her, you probably don't like what she writes. Stephanie isn't a very good writer, but she is able to take herself out of her work and let it be something seperate from her personal life, and it's turned into something bigger than her own involvement in it. She could stop writing & stop doing interviews tomorrow and Twilight would keep going without her. Of course, she wrote it, so there are aspects of herself in it. But I think a lot of people want to look at her and see someone just as dramatic as the books she writes, and analyze where it all came from and what motivated it and what it all MEANS, but that's not who she is. She's just a normal person who wrote some books, and we're never going to be able to make her a legend. #twihards
@prismatism: Well, yes. You have writers who are celebrities because of their personality and their work is just the byproduct that capulted them into the public eye. And then there are writers who are celebrities because of the phenomena of their work -- which is where we would both slot Meyer.
The problem (for) that Meyer is in is that she can't just slink off and become a hermit -- because that makes her more mysterious and glamerous. (See: Salinger) She's in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation right now.
However, in my opinion, she just needs to ride this out for the next couple of years. The Twilight books are pretty thin on meaning and subtext, and I think we'll see the fascination in them wan in the coming decade. I have a hard time seeing the Twilight series as the next Wuthering Heights (or even Vampire Chronicles) with new generations of readers discovering her work in the future.
(Btw, Wurtle is an excellent example. I'll raise you one Pagilia in the 'hate them, hate their work' pool.) #twihards
I hate hate hate that authors are expected to be celebrities. Whatever you think of them, the woman wrote books, which ought to be able to stand on their own. She's a writer, not a performer. I just had to fill out an author questionnaire for my publisher's pr department. Turns out, I too am plump and boring, though my book has less sparkles in it, which will hopefully keep the daily fail from having the urge to track down a bunch of underminy casual friends to say passive aggressive things about me. #twihards
@samethingwedoeverynightpinky: i'm unpublished. I'll stand on my head on Maury yodeling to the ukalale if that's what it'll take to meet my advance. Everyone knows the publishing industry is broke and it's authors who are screwed. I'll do whatever it takes to *never have to worry about how to fund my art again* like the authors whose books get made into blockbuster movies. #twihards
Hmmm...the "friend" who speculated on her lack of a "proper boyfriend" makes me suspicious. I don't see Arizonans using that Britishism. Either it's standard procedure to edit for your audience or that friend is totally made up. Either way, this piece is ridic. #twihards
@Forthright Fattie: I'm sure the source is made up or heavily edited, but it is done all the time on both sides of the Atlantic. If anyone American mentions their Mom in an interview, its charged to Mum in the British press and vice versa. #twihards
@Forthright Fattie: Also, the teacher mentions that "Stephenie was in my daughter's year"--I'm pretty sure most Americans would say "my daughter's grade." Year isn't used very much, especially not before college. #twihards
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If I tried to write a book while abstaining from coffee/DC, it would quickly devolve into a bitchy diatribe, and abruptly end after three pages when I face-plant in to my keyboard. DISBFJSBDJBFDJBFJER #twihards
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Reading this actually makes me think of Meyer in a better light, or at least improves my image of her from what it was after the whole Midnight Sun debacle (seriously? someone leaking the rough drafts causes you to just give up on the book entirely? as an artist myself, I can't think of anyone else who would be that sensitive about their work and really it just seemed incredibly self-righteous to me). It makes it seem, for one, like she really cares about her family and understands the negative consequences that can come from being the kid or spouse of a famous name. It would be nice if we had more people reacting this way and less people like the Gosselins, for instance, who don't seem to care who they have to step on in pursuit of their 15 minutes.
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As a fairly private person myself, I can more than sympathize with Meyer trying to limit her time in the public eye. When I was little I wanted to be famous, but slowly realized how much that would deprive me of the things I love to do. It really made me cringe when reading an interview with Angelina Jolie, I found out she really misses being able to people-watch in public places like the subway and malls and of course can't do that anymore. Now my idea is more to be notable rather than famous. Enough that people in my field will recognize my name, and I might get the occasional interview, but not enough that it restricts my strong need for privacy and autonomy. #twihards
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Even when that success involves sparkling, Volvo-driving vampires. #twihards
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Any writers I see on tv are on shows like Real Time With Bill Maher or Charlie Rose, talking about ideas, not their personal lives.
Stephanie Meyer is a writer, even if you don't think she's that great at it, and she deserves to be treated the same way we treat other writers. Nobody cares about Malcolm Gladwell's weight or hair or what he does or doesn't drink. #twihards
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It's a publication that makes "In Style" look like a paticularly deep issue of "Granta".
I've interviewed Neil Gaiman, Cory Doctorow and Poppy Z. Brite, very different people in personality and style, but all of them talked about their writing regimine, making time for their families, and enjoying being at home after going on the road pushing their latest books. Successful authors need to make time to refresh, relax and WRITE.
The supernova pop-star writer who appears out of nowhere and conquers publishing is often a one hit wonder. Like her stuff of not, Meyer is building a career.
And I know that Stephen King quote is dated, but considering the 1000 page shit-mess he just dropped in the form of "Under the Dome" maybe he should consider practicing some of that "Twilight silence" that Meyer is being accused of?
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No, I amnot active in twilight comms, this is gossip from friends who read that fandom wank lj.
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@BytheSea: This is only tangentially related but... #twihards
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Also, how many authors have reached the celebrity of people like Brad and Angie? The only one I can think of is Truman Capote and that was more a result of his personality, not his career choice. #twihards
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The problem (for) that Meyer is in is that she can't just slink off and become a hermit -- because that makes her more mysterious and glamerous. (See: Salinger) She's in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation right now.
However, in my opinion, she just needs to ride this out for the next couple of years. The Twilight books are pretty thin on meaning and subtext, and I think we'll see the fascination in them wan in the coming decade. I have a hard time seeing the Twilight series as the next Wuthering Heights (or even Vampire Chronicles) with new generations of readers discovering her work in the future.
(Btw, Wurtle is an excellent example. I'll raise you one Pagilia in the 'hate them, hate their work' pool.) #twihards
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