I actually appreciated the gratuitous male objectification for more than just the obvious reasons! It's refreshing that Bella and the other women in the story aren't really sexualized at all (I didn't even recognize that actress who plays Angela in her hot Peta ad, since she's so dressed down in the film) while Edward and Jacob are half-dressed/shot in slow motion constantly. It's an obvious play to the audience, but it also just feels like payback for the excessive female nudity that permeates so many other Hollywood offerings.
Was I the only one asked loudly if Edward jizzed in his pants when he was making out with Bella at the start of the movie? I cracked up the whole theater.
@KittyKittyCat: Also, thank you Dodai for being able to describe my fascination with Twilight better than I ever good. The whole time I was reading them I just kept thinking "these are awful... MUST READ MORE" I'm convinced she laces the pages with something addictive.
@KittyKittyCat: I am Thankful for New Moon being released right around Thanksgiving so I can go home to my small town and watch it in cheap seclusion after stuffing myself with heavenly foods.
@KittyKittyCat: No way! I'm going to West Texas, too. Hmm, good idea. 'Course it's about an hour drive to the town with the Super Wal-Mart, but what the heck.
I went last night with some friends, and I am not ashamed to say that I had a blast- it was one of my favorite movie experiences ever. The reason why I'm not ashamed of this is because we spent almost the entire movie doubled over in laughter. Especially because the girl behind us kept sobbing and getting upset because we dared laugh at the cinematic masterpiece that is New Moon.
Also, did anyone else feel like 2/3rds of that movie looked like the set-up to a porn? The dialogue was just so...porny.
I was with a similarly aged (28) friend in a cinema full of teens, but even the teens spent most of the film laughing. When he's in Rio? And he crushes the phone? SKIPPING THROUGH THE FOREST SPARKLING? Sorry, I have to have a lie down now. Funniest film I've seen all year.
@the glamwich: i vomited in the bathroom at the midnight showing of the last harry potter before the movie even started. when i went back to the theatre i couldnt find my friend so i started calling his name only to realize i was in the wrong theater. needless to say, the next morning i realized that i had to go watch the movie again because i didnt remember ANYTHING that happened.
butterbeer will fuck your shit up. especially when its actually tequilia.
I thought about going to a movie tonight. Throw some dollar store candy into an oversized purse and go see anything but New Moon and it would be great. Besides, you wouldn't have to worry about parking since most of the people going to see New Moon can't drive anyway!
I wonder if the reason so many girls identify with Bella, or want to, or relate to her is because of her passivity. Being a teenage girl is really difficult, and maybe they feel ignored and helpless. Lacking in agency, or even knowing what that really means. The things that Edward "loves" about her are all things you'd hopefully grow out of as you got older and found your place in the world.
Such as: that particular kind of low-self esteem that looks like humility or lack of ego so some male character can say, all broody, "you just don't know how beautiful you are". It masquerades as an appealing/non-threatening trait. It's like nearly every story I've read by a certain type of 15 year old girl. Or romance novel. It's a trope that plays out again and again. Much like her physical weakness, dependency, etc. But all I can guess is that more girls and women maybe -feel- that way or relate to it somehow.
Of course, there's also the fact that, whatever else, it's a story from Bella's perspective, and the female perspective has been fairly rare in mainstream film for awhile.
I just...I wish it was a -better- perspective. One that wasn't so reliant on helplessness and victimization, or creepy tropes about "true love". Or was more self-aware of that. That's one of the reasons I love Buffy. The self-awareness. It knew when it was being overwrought, it knew how to self-critique, and it was far more complex.
@tiredfairy: being that the dark knight only made ten more million dollars opening weekend than this dreck despite chris nolan's daring script, i wouldn't hold my breath for deeper characterization in the pre-existing franchise subset.
why try to be great when a majority of people will always settle for mediocrity or less?
I will be patiently waiting until two weeks has passed before I dare venture into a theater.
Then again, I did the same thing for the last movie and still ended up sitting behind crazed pre-pubescent girls that squealed every time Robert Pattinson came on screen. I almost rolled my eyes out of my head and kept saying to the Mr. - "this movie is truly terrible, but the experience of watching it like this may have made it worse."
@WaltzingMatilda: I saw it Twilight two weeks after, and there was still an audible gasp from the audience of mostly thirteen year old girls when Robert Pattison came on the screen for the first time.
I always liked Bella and Jacob's relationship in the book (yes, I read them). He's decidedly imperfect toward her at times, but they seemed to have more of an intellectual connection than Bella and Edward.
Hate Bella as a heroine. Always have. I write YA, and ever since I read Twilight I strive to make my female protagonists the opposite of Bella. That is to say articulate and active.
Won't be seeing the movie, but probably will be buying the soundtrack. So many good artists on there--Twilight franchise, why must you force me to support you?
@cheshirecounty: I like to pretend like that doesn't happen. In my version, he's so heart broken he runs away to Texas and we meet and fall in love and have hot sexy sex.
@cheshirecounty: The whole imprinting thing squicks me out to no end. So you can't be with Bella because of her immortal luv with the Sparkle Vamp? Here, try her half-human half-vamp fetus that's been eaten out of her womb by her husband! Cheers!
@cheshirecounty: The most hideous bit of that was she test-ran it in book 3, resulting in many reactions of "eeeurgh! Teenager with TODDLER?". I have no earthly idea why she'd double down on "best friend with infant daughter".
Saw this today. Myself and my sister are shameful fans: We never read the books or expected to like the first one. We watched Twilight hungover and because it was the last thing in the video shop - and loved it.
They are full of ridiculously slow wind-blown shots, strange timing, unintentionally hilarious dialogue, jammed full with yearning and hot shirtless young men. YAY!
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guess who won?
11/20/09
Also, did anyone else feel like 2/3rds of that movie looked like the set-up to a porn? The dialogue was just so...porny.
11/20/09
I was with a similarly aged (28) friend in a cinema full of teens, but even the teens spent most of the film laughing. When he's in Rio? And he crushes the phone? SKIPPING THROUGH THE FOREST SPARKLING? Sorry, I have to have a lie down now. Funniest film I've seen all year.
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i guess she thought it was New Moon with Blue Moon.
11/20/09
butterbeer will fuck your shit up. especially when its actually tequilia.
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Such as: that particular kind of low-self esteem that looks like humility or lack of ego so some male character can say, all broody, "you just don't know how beautiful you are". It masquerades as an appealing/non-threatening trait. It's like nearly every story I've read by a certain type of 15 year old girl. Or romance novel. It's a trope that plays out again and again. Much like her physical weakness, dependency, etc. But all I can guess is that more girls and women maybe -feel- that way or relate to it somehow.
Of course, there's also the fact that, whatever else, it's a story from Bella's perspective, and the female perspective has been fairly rare in mainstream film for awhile.
I just...I wish it was a -better- perspective. One that wasn't so reliant on helplessness and victimization, or creepy tropes about "true love". Or was more self-aware of that. That's one of the reasons I love Buffy. The self-awareness. It knew when it was being overwrought, it knew how to self-critique, and it was far more complex.
11/22/09
why try to be great when a majority of people will always settle for mediocrity or less?
11/20/09
I aspire to yell this at every screening of everything ever henceforth. September Issue? March of the Penguins? Das Boot? Bring it on.
11/20/09
Then again, I did the same thing for the last movie and still ended up sitting behind crazed pre-pubescent girls that squealed every time Robert Pattinson came on screen. I almost rolled my eyes out of my head and kept saying to the Mr. - "this movie is truly terrible, but the experience of watching it like this may have made it worse."
I mean, I get it... but ugh.
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11/20/09
Hate Bella as a heroine. Always have. I write YA, and ever since I read Twilight I strive to make my female protagonists the opposite of Bella. That is to say articulate and active.
Won't be seeing the movie, but probably will be buying the soundtrack. So many good artists on there--Twilight franchise, why must you force me to support you?
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Vom!
11/20/09
They are full of ridiculously slow wind-blown shots, strange timing, unintentionally hilarious dialogue, jammed full with yearning and hot shirtless young men. YAY!