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Reason #439 You Should Be Careful What You Put Online

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lavenderstain
06/11/09

In reply to Reason #439 You Should Be Careful What You Put Online
This was the scenario for my Entertainment and Sports Law Essay,

except it involved a picture on flicker being used in a Herpese commercial.

I got a C+.
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maybeimamazed02
06/11/09

@lavenderstain: *sigh* Law school sucks.
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telecomic the thoughtful red panda
06/11/09

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My best friend Gabe moved to L.A. to be an actor back in 1998. He got involved with a guy who does stock photography, and Gabe did some modeling shots for him - the best of which is him shirtless and cheering like a deranged football fan. He got paid a couple hundred bucks for the shoots, which, for a young actor, was much-needed.

This shirtless Gabe photo has since been used in national advertising campaigns for a Coleman grill, Pontiac, art in newspaper sports sections, in all sorts of stuff overseas, and, just recently, at Target - [www.target.com]

Ten+ years later, and Gabe is still everywhere. And no kindly shop-owner in the Czech Republic has offered to give him a nice bottle of wine.
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tomatoheart
06/11/09

@telecomic the thoughtful red panda: This happened to me as well. The thing is, when you're paid for your shots -- you are basically being paid to sign away your rights to those photos.

It weirds me out sometimes to think about what of me exists out there in the world, but I have to know that I really needed the money at the time and that I'll never run for political office because of them.
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telecomic the thoughtful red panda
06/11/09

@tomatoheart: fortunately for Gabe (and, frankly, for us - great guy, but not in the best shape ever) - he kept the majority of his clothes on, and didn't do anything too shocking. Sorry you got taken advantage of.

Many of these stock photo companies take advantage of the good looks or genes of others and make small fortunes.
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tomatoheart
06/11/09

@telecomic the thoughtful red panda: I wasn't taken advantage of -- I knew what I was getting into and what rights i was signing away.
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morninggloria
06/11/09

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Even before the age of the internet, family photographs and videos were being exploited by Europeans. Remember what happened to the Griswolds?
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msAnthrope
06/11/09

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exactly what is the definition of "computer-generated"? sounds like BS to me, playing the dumb card.
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cuteasabutton
06/11/09

@msAnthrope: Yes, I don't see how you can computer generate people like that!
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msAnthrope
06/11/09

@cuteasabutton:

i love the vagueness of the term~~ almost like a a random program in a computer lab somewhere is churning out various photographic prototypes. when i think of "computer-generated" i usually envision something more 3D-looking. damn, pixar wishes it could "computer-generate" humans to look this real!
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femaledwightschrute
06/11/09

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I've actually taken a picture from Flickr and used it for a client presentation, and my boss continued to use it for the whole year. I felt a bit guilty about it, but the picture is similarly innocent and was being used internally so it's not such a big deal.

I've only recently realized that other people can do this to me too, so I just started putting privacy controls on my pictures a few months ago.
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vamusical
06/11/09

@femaledwightschrute: If you used it from Creative Commons, though, it's not so bad. Creative Commons and sxc.hu are awesome for that.
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curioushair
06/11/09

@femaledwightschrute: Concert pictures I've taken have been used without my permission, one on particular has shown up in more than one place. MIne are not CC, but I probably would have let those who lifted them use them anyway, had they asked. (I'm not a pro, but I take pride in what I do.) Yeah, it bugs me.

Watermarking is a solution, I guess, but I hate the look of a watermarked photo.
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monkeydance
06/11/09

@curioushair: this happened to me and some friends...the best solution is to stamp your photos with a personal logo. this way it's copyrighted to you. otherwise, i agree, watermarking takes away from the picture.

people that don't understand you can't just take personal photos, i do not understand. just because it's on the internet doesn't mean it's free-reign. there are copyright laws!
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inabook
06/11/09

@monkeydance: Copyright laws treat snapshots and planned pictures differently though-- so your shot of a friend might not be copyrighted, if you didn't put any planning into it. And if it is copyrighted, putting a personal logo on doesn't change anything, a copyrighted creation is copyrighted the moment its created.
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hortense
06/11/09

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This is why I'm glad I grew up in the era of Olan Mills photographs that were quickly shoved under couches in giant photo albums as opposed to being posted online for the entire world to see.
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birminghamdrunk
06/11/09

@hortense: oh yeah, and all those awesome backgrounds you could choose from.
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Spaceman Bill Leah
06/11/09

@hortense: Also, every photo had Olan Mills embossed in gold at the bottom to prevent even the most determined Czech storekeepers from such shenanigans.
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vamusical
06/11/09

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So I guess this store owner thinks copyright laws don't extend to computer-generated people?
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PersonalBest
06/11/09

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Apparently, the couple found out about it because a friend who was traveling in Prague discovered it.

Can you imagine stumbling upon it yourself?

It would be the real-life version of the Simpsons Mister Sparkle episode.
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brinkswomanship
06/11/09

@PersonalBest: I was wondering how they discovered it. It made me wonder if there were billboards scattered across the world with pictures of me on them that I would just never know about!
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ElleL
06/11/09

@PersonalBest: Or when Elaine discovered the mannequin!
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waytogeaux
06/11/09

@PersonalBest: Or like National Lampoon's European Vacation where Beverly D'Angelo's character finds herself on a billboard in Italy after their camera gets stolen...

FF to 2:44:

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maybeimamazed02
06/11/09

@waytogeaux: Haha, The Slut in the Shower! I was waiting for someone to mention this...you get hearted!
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bananastand
06/11/09

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Wait...this is a cautionary tale? Because that's kind of awesome.
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ElleL
06/11/09

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Holy crap. Wow. So I guess posing with a beer drunkenly on facebook is going to get me on a Miller Lite truck? Yaaaay!
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Miss. Money-Sterling
06/11/09

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This is why it's so important to double czech your sources.
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cuteasabutton
06/11/09

@Miss. Money-Sterling: ZING!
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nellicat
06/11/09

@Miss. Money-Sterling: And not be a Slav about it.
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BabyJane
06/11/09

@Miss. Money-Sterling: The family should have been more Praguematic about the whole matter.
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wtfox?!
06/11/09

@BabyJane: Serbs them right, IMO.
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BabyJane
06/11/09

@wtfox?!: I agree, but still, it must be pure Missouri to go through that.
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cuteasabutton
06/11/09

@BabyJane: They better Polish their act up.
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Khrushchev
06/11/09

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Yvonne Georgina Puig wrote an article about this phenomenon--she was photographed by Getty Images in college--last month.

[thisrecording.com]
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Grim Reaper of the Forest
06/11/09

@Khrushchev: My favorite is the sky-diving one.
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