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Snowbunny
12/12/09

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Gag. That Speidi poem reads like when I rewrote hunks of "Beowolf" into an ode to my "tenacious terrier" puppy in 11th grade.

Poetry is for poets, Heidi, just like acting is for actors, singing is for musicians, and MTV is for fame whores.
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AfroJezeBella
12/11/09

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WTF @ P. Diddy? Why does that sound like attempted rape?
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MargaretMoony
12/12/09

@AfroJezeBella: When I read it my mind went "Child on Child sexual abuse!"
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lemoner
12/12/09

@MargaretMoony: Do you [or anyone else here] know of the implications of child on child sexual abuse [to the abused and abuser] -- are there famous studies/theories about this? I guess I should go to google...
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MargaretMoony
12/12/09

@lemoner: I don't know any studies of the top of my head (which I should) but usually the results on the victim are the same but with added guilt from the fact that the abuser was closer in age. Most people don't really like to talk about child/child sexual abuse.
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whynotshesaid
12/12/09

@MargaretMoony: It doesn't really sound like child-on-child sex abuse. I know I had my share of play experimentation like that when I was a kid, and I think a lot of other people did, too.

I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I am just wary of categorizing all child-on-child sex play as abusive.
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MargaretMoony
12/12/09

@whynotshesaid: I'm not saying it is child on child abuse, just that from what he says it sounds like child on child abuse. And yes, there is a difference between sex play and abuse but child on child abuse is more common then people think.
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la.donna.pietra
12/11/09

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Hmm. Sinead is making sense again.
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whynotshesaid
12/12/09

@la.donna.pietra: I know everyone bugged out when she tore up the photo of the Pope in protest over this stuff but she was just ahead of her time, is all.
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Scoithniamh
12/11/09

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I apologize if this seems naive, but the last time I heard "guido" outside of Jersey Shore, someone was proudly declaring themselves thus.

Therefore, I thought guido was roughly the equivalent of, say, "mick"- once used as an insult, but has lost its sting and is now just outdated. Is this not the case?
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Lolita Hazed
12/11/09

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"I never really thought of Susie Salmon as someone who was dead... Although her body is dead, her soul is still there. That's what makes Susie who she is and that's what I love about her."

I don't know why, but I find something about this comment HILARIOUS. Like, obviously her soul is still there, she's an angel, right? I feel like it's like saying, "The sky is blue. That's what makes the sky what it is and that's what I love about it."
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Sputnik_Sweetheart
12/11/09

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I'm 22 to 29 and I think "Guido" is an offensive term.
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frozengrapes
12/11/09

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If possible (as in, if I had a vagina...) I would probably try to get preggers with Tiger Woods' baby, too. That would set you for life...
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Rilo-Andy
12/11/09

@frozengrapes: I'm a man, and even I would try to get pregnant by Tiger Woods...
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MargaretMoony
12/12/09

@Rilo-Andy: I wish you the best...
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RenoMartini
12/11/09

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My six year old recently penned a poem for homework, and it went like this:

My cat is fat
My cat is big
My cat is not a pig!

It makes more sense, and is far more eloquent than anything Heidi Montag has ever written.
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Snowbunny
12/12/09

@RenoMartini: Please tell me there were pictures. Of both the cat and a pig with a red X over the pig.
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MargaretMoony
12/12/09

@RenoMartini: That's so sweet!
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Hana Maru, used up old slutbag on the pole
12/11/09

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I'm surprised that Church scandal is buried in Dirt Bag. I'm with Sinead all the way. Nothing against Catholic layfolks, but the church is a child rape institution. They have no credibility to whine about movies and jewelled crosses.
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sybann
12/11/09

@Hana Maru, used up old slutbag on the pole: No kidding. Pedophile priests moved from parish to parish in an endless coverup year after year.
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jcb820
12/11/09

@Hana Maru, used up old slutbag on the pole: Or Harry Potter. That was the one that really set me off. It was a few years back, but I remember hearing a story on NPR about how Pope Benedict made a statement about how it could have an evil effect on children readers, or some such nonsense, and I nearly passed out from a rage stroke. Of all the countless problems in this sad world, and THIS is what you choose to focus on? Unbelievable.
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Hana Maru, used up old slutbag on the pole
12/11/09

@jcb820: @sybann: They do it everywhere. My mom grew up Catholic in India and when she was growing up, all the mothers warned their children to not be alone with certain priests.
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south2nd
12/12/09

@sybann: when I was a kid in Catholic school, the priests came once a month to give us confession. When we got a new priest in 7th grade, my home room teacher started scheduling quizzes or group presentations on that day, so our classroom was always skipped. I didn't realize until my 30's that she was trying to keep us from going to confession with him.
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sybann
12/12/09

@south2nd: Bless her to pieces - we're none of us immune - my mother refused to leave us alone with my paternal great grandfather - based totally on a hinky feeling she got from him. She found out later from my Dad's mom that he wasn't entirely trustworthy around women and girls.

She told a story about running around a dining table to stay away from his hands.
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south2nd
12/13/09

@sybann: Good for your mom for protecting you! And hope everyone was able to avoid Creepy Great Grandpa.
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sybann
12/13/09

@south2nd: Everyone except for G'ma! And she managed fine - knowing her if he HAD actually made contact he woulda drawn back a bloody stub.
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TransFat
12/11/09

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Oh shit, Team Cher is going to be pissed.
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tallgirl-in-heels
12/11/09

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Pierce, justice can only be served swiftly if Polanski actually faces it. And it's been noted that your heart goes out to everyone but his victim.
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History Major
12/11/09

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A woman who slept with another womans husband repeatedly over the course of many years is worried about her reputation as being mistaken for a hooker?

Girl please.
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Hana Maru, used up old slutbag on the pole
12/11/09

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That thing with Diddy is kind of freaking me out! Was he sexually abused to then act out that way?
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Helen Valentine
12/11/09

@Hana Maru, used up old slutbag on the pole: I'm trying not to read too much into it. Kids do like playing "doctor" and stuff like that without really knowing what they're doing. I think he was just trying to recount an embarrassing childhood anecdote that would also support his rap star/playa image.
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pestified wants-a-Bush-tribunal
12/11/09

@Hana Maru, used up old slutbag on the pole: I think your Spidey-senses are good, however I think it was the little girl he was with who'd been molested. Once that happens to a child they try to do it to other children, and she was older than him.
Poor babies, having their innocence taken from them.
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Thus Spake KATE!
12/11/09

@pestified wants-a-Bush-tribunal: Whoa whoa dr. jump-to-conclusions, slow down. sexual curiosity =/= victim of molestation. you have absolutely no clue whether he or she had any history of sexual abuse and it is really big stretch to assume that childhood sex games are automatically indicative of abuse. we live in a sexually saturated culture and children are curious by nature. it is just as plausible that this was a harmless childhood experiment. maybe there was something nefarious, maybe not. but you do not have any sort of evidence to back up such serious a claim.
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pestified wants-a-Bush-tribunal
12/12/09

@KATE!: I take your point, but it still creeped me out. I don't know any children of these ages currently.
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MargaretMoony
12/12/09

@Helen Valentine: There's actually child on child sex abuse and then childhood sexual experimentation. This doesn't really have to do with anything but both parties were out of the typical age range for childhood sexual experimentation.
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MargaretMoony
12/12/09

@KATE!: "playing" sex or sexual curiosity is a normal part of childhood sexual development. The thing that confuses/worries me is that both parties were older then the age when this happens. Of course, I don't know the full story here so I can't really say anything else.
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Thus Spake KATE!
12/12/09

@MargaretMoony: i think that one of the reasons that children are believe to "grow out" of sex play or that sex play is associated with younger children is because they quickly learn (via the reaction of their parents/schoolteachers to such play) that society generally frowns on such displays and that sex is a taboo or for "adults" only. as we become a more sexually liberated culture and have more avenues in which sex is discussed and visible those taboos erode. it seems logical then that prepubescent children may feel less ashamed of their sexual curiosity and exhibit more traditionally "adult" behavior. many social theorists contend that "childhood" as we understand is more dependent on social construction than biological development.

a lot of our notions about modern childhood date back to the victorian era and are in desperate need of an update.

i, for one, remember deciding in 5th grade that i was ready to become sexually active and was very excited to get to middle school--which i imagined/fantasized was just an orgy of hedonistic pre-adolescence. that would have put me around 9/10 when i decided i wanted to start experimenting. but because i was abnormally shy, chunky, and bespectacled, it would be a few more years until i actually had any real opportunities. but the desire and willingness was still there. and i was not abused as a child.
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whynotshesaid
12/12/09

@KATE!: Thank you! Everyone's so quick to categorize this as evidence of abuse of some sort. Is it not at all possible that kids could play sexually and not have it all be a sign of something insidious and damaging? Is it not possible that kids are just being kids?
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Hana Maru, used up old slutbag on the pole
12/11/09

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So...did Tiger not even wrap it up?
It makes infidelity so much worse when they expose their wives to diseases, like Eliot Spitzer.
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janusjana
12/11/09

@Hana Maru, used up old slutbag on the pole: Eliot Spitzer is a sexually transmitted disease? I always suspected this, and appreciate the clarification.
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erinna
12/11/09

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I haven't watched Jersey Shore, but when I read that quote from Snookie, I actually HEARD it in a South Jersey "guidette" accent. So hilarious. I can't decide if I want to watch the show or not. Part of me thinks its going to be a hilarious trainwreck, and part of me gets really annoyed with the fact that people think its an appropriate way to act.
It also annoys me when people explain their behavior by saying "I'm Italian..."
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riverox
12/12/09

@erinna: I'm confused. Where in the article did she say she say "I'm Italian"...?
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erinna
12/12/09

@riverox: She didn't. Nor did she say where she's from. Maybe I was putting words in her mouth, I was just saying that reading her quote, I heard it in a Jersey accent because I've been to Belmar so many times and so many people talk like that.
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