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Elle O. Elle
07/31/09

In reply to Mayim Bialik Did Not Exactly Adore Her WNTW Outfit
While it sucks that they didn't listen to her requests, what's she going to do if an acting job requires her to wear something that she can't? I'm sure in most cases it would be easy enough to adjust an outfit for her, but not every time.
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Breamworthy
07/31/09

@Elle O. Elle: Well, the article said that she wore sleeveless stuff for the show and she just made it clear that she would wear a cardigan or something overtop if she left the studio. So it sounds like she is okay with wearing something for filming that she wouldn't wear in real life.
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amowls
07/31/09

In reply to Mayim Bialik Did Not Exactly Adore Her WNTW Outfit
I feel like pants are more conservative than skirts. A skirt you can just lift up and do the nasty any time you want, pants are a little trickier.
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cuteasabutton
07/31/09

@amowls: That's what I was thinking!
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veronykah
07/31/09

@amowls: I have always thought that too...you'd think TRUE conservatives would want women to wear pants. No funny business on the fly.
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J.D.Regent
07/31/09

@amowls: car sex, for example, is barely worth the effort in pants. but i guess, no cars on shabbos anyway?
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liz.lemonade
07/31/09

@amowls: I was just about to ask that, but you've put it much better than I would have.

I watched the episode when it aired. She was apparently fine with knee-length skirts. I will admit that I know very little about that particular "Conservadox" Jewish custom, so I'm asking this out of genuine, non-snarky curiosity! Why do they favor skirts over slacks? Unless the skirt is ankle-length, then skirts show off far more of the leg (along with the potential to show even more on a windy day.) Or is it because skirts are traditionally considered more "feminine"?
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juniper
07/31/09

@liz.lemonade: Hey, I know the answer to something!

One reason Orthodox Jewish women don't wear pants is kli gever, the biblical prohibition for a women to dress like a man. (There is an opposite prohibition, too!) Once upon a time, skirts were women's clothing only and pants were men's clothing only. Obviously this isn't the case anymore, but it has stuck.

Another reason is modesty. Now, while it doesn't make sense when you think about hikin' it up and doin' it in your Saab, I promise that most Orthodox women wouldn't consider that, and I'm sure most Orthodox men wouldn't either. You won't find Orthodox Jewish women in miniskirts, or skirts above the knee, or in tight skirts. Consider another example of modesty: married women cover their heads, and only their husbands can see their hair in all its glory.

Finally, there is the issue of the community norm. Most Orthodox Jewish women wear exclusively skirts. It's a communal religion, and the Orthodox communities stick together. It's absolutely normal and expected, just as any other community clothing option makes sense.
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t-yo3
07/31/09

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To someone who watched the show with Mayim, were the final outfits things that didn't fit in with her application of tzniut: sleeveless clothes and short skirts and that? Did S&C appear to push these on her or anything? Or were her requests accommodated, even though the qualifications and explanations were left on the cutting room floor? I think I need a little explanation of how the show actually went down to understand properly what she's saying...
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J.D.Regent
07/31/09

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It's really too bad they didn't honor her request; they are usually so good at helping people work within their own constraints and it would have been really interesting to see a cool, flattering, modest wardrobe. I wonder if she is willing to make exceptions for costumes. Come to think of it Blossom's wardrobe was fairly modest.
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NefariousNewt
07/31/09

@J.D.Regent: Her hats seemed to be her biggest accessory.
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cuteasabutton
07/31/09

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" />Did anyone else covet her hats and outfits like me?
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NefariousNewt
07/31/09

@cuteasabutton: I totally forgot that Joey Lawrence was on that show! Where has he disappeared to?
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swashbuckling
07/31/09

@cuteasabutton: I stole a hat like the one in the bottom right corner. It was from Target.
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cuteasabutton
07/31/09

@swashbuckling: Oooohhh Tar-jay was great for stuff like that!
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cuteasabutton
07/31/09

" />@NefariousNewt:
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Plum-Pie
07/31/09

@NefariousNewt: Musicals, ABC Family and the internet! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Lawrence
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NefariousNewt
07/31/09

@Plum-Pie: I do remember his guest shot on CSI:NY as a serial killer, but thought that was just a kind of fluky thing.
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BabyJane
07/31/09

@cuteasabutton: He turned into Yul Brynner in The King and I? WHOA!
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cuteasabutton
07/31/09

@BabyJane: HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
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J.D.Regent
07/31/09

@cuteasabutton:In 7th grade my best friend MADE me a tie skirt like Blossom's. I wore it with black fishnets over maroon tights and my sister's 20 hole Docs. I am STILL proud of that motherfucking outfit. I credit it with convincing the best dressed, coolest girl in 9th grade (bassist in a band, published a zine, super tall and Korean in my lily white town) to be my math tutor; she totally complimented me on it.

NERD ALERT!
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cuteasabutton
07/31/09

@J.D.Regent: Fellow Nerd - PRESENT! I lived in a very small town and tried my best to find Blossom-esque outfits. When I did manage to pull one together, I was looked like I was an alien.
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YourScreenplaySucks
07/31/09

@cuteasabutton: I'm sure Blossom's style had a powerful place in preteen Carrie Bradshaw's subconscious.
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J.D.Regent
07/31/09

@cuteasabutton:i had one ill-advised day where I got up the nerve to rock a purple tutu from childhood over leggings. but then when i stepped off the bus i was suddenly filled with a panic and deep dread and realized how naked I felt in what was essentially just tights; it was like a nightmare where you realize you have shown up naked to school and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it all day long. nothing to cover up with. then i forgot my gym uniform and was forced to play co-ed volleyball in it. I have flashbacks every time I see a picture of Lindsay Lohan.
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J.D.Regent
07/31/09

@Your Screenplay Sucks: Wow, that is a great call.
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kerry
07/31/09

@J.D.Regent: Holy crap, I made my own tie skirt, too! My mom was super impressed with my can-do attitude. I, too, had 20-hole docs to wear it with.
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J.D.Regent
07/31/09

@kerry: I too am impressed with your can-do attitude! I probably would have befriended you in 7th grade and convinced you to make me one first!
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Plum-Pie
07/31/09

In reply to Mayim Bialik Did Not Exactly Adore Her WNTW Outfit
She is far too clever, objective etc for reality TV. (Also, I cannot be the only Brit smirking that 'Tablet' is a Jewish mag in the US, whereas 'The Tablet' is a Catholic mag in the UK.)
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cuteasabutton
07/31/09

@Plum-Pie: OMG I forgot about that! I'm so chuckling at that right now.
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NefariousNewt
07/31/09

In reply to Mayim Bialik Did Not Exactly Adore Her WNTW Outfit
She looks the same. I swear. It's like she never "grew up."

Well, Clinton and Stacey are good, and I'm sure they did their level best to be accommodating, but then, knowing the usual tenor of the show, I'm not sure why she'd really want to be on it.
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cuteasabutton
07/31/09

@NefariousNewt: That's what I was thinking. From all the photos I've seen of her it doesn't make sense. I've always got the impression that she was one of those people really comfortable in her skin and the way she represents herself so would find something like this unnecessary.
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NefariousNewt
07/31/09

@cuteasabutton: Though I can see, how, if she was serious about getting back into acting, her wardrobe would be a serious detriment.
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precipice
07/31/09

@NefariousNewt: I remember watching this show, they did show her saying that she doesn't wear pants. But there wasn't an explanation for that, I don't think.

I don't think Clinton and Stacy believe that wearing clothes that fit, and are sexy, means being scantily clad, either. I definitely didn't think Mayim's outfits at the end of the show were scantily clad, or even particularly sexy! What they were, though, was better-fitting.

I wonder why she went on the show as well.
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LoSpaz
07/31/09

@NefariousNewt: On the show, as in the article, she did mention making a transition back into acting after years in school and having two kids. I can see why that would be a good time to upgrade one's wardrobe.

I watched the show and she was a really good sport. I've seen people buckle under much milder criticism from Stacy and Clinton.

I do understand why she might feel slighted that they cut the bits where she talked about being Jewish and why she dresses the way she does - and I think it would have made the show a bit more three-dimensional - but again, she seems to have a sense of humor about it. I didn't get the impression from the show or the article that she was truly unhappy with anything.
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NefariousNewt
07/31/09

@precipice: Well, it's certainly a good way to get a wardrobe update, and perhaps put in some face time as well?
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NefariousNewt
07/31/09

@LoSpaz: I think it was inevitable that they would water down the parts about her being Jewish. The show just isn't like that -- they are more concerned that the person feel better about themselves at the end.
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precipice
07/31/09

@NefariousNewt: The funny part to me is that she paid for the new wardrobe that she's complaining about!
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Breamworthy
07/31/09

@precipice: I wonder why she went on the show as well

Hella publicity when she's trying to restart her acting career, plus $5000 worth of clothing for free... I think I understand why she went on the show.
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notheretomakefriends
06/22/09

In reply to Hate Your Neighbors? This Is The CD For You!
They forgot to put the track called 'Geri Halliwell's Its raining men at maximum volume on your brand new stereo surround system at midnight on a schoolnight... on repeat'. If you can't see the contents of your liquor cabinet shaking two stories above, it aint loud enough.

For this apartment, I can't complain, I have a neighbour that plays the piano beautifully, only in the daytime, and all the songs I like. I think i'm in love.
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PaintedTrollop
06/21/09

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I lived next door to a yoga studio for a while. They would gather outside in the summer and laugh and talk and giggle - at 6 am. I worked nights, and they woke me up. So, once awake, I would go grind coffee beans and make coffee. That annoyed them. It seems the grinding was ruining their concentration. They didn't seem to understand that if they hadn't woken me up, there would be no grinding.

The day that I waited till about halfway through their class, and blasted The Anvil Chorus from Il Trovatore was the day we reached an understanding.
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LaComtesse
06/21/09

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I am lucky, however, in that one of my neighbors is a professional pianist and so I get to hear him practice all the time from the hallway (I can't hear him through the walls). Anyway, it was around the time I first moved in and I had never seen him outside his apartment before. We saw each other going into our respective doors and I turned and said...

Me: Are you the pianist?
Him: Yes. Are you the singer?!
Me: Oh... You heard that?
Him: If you're a soprano then yes.
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FraggleIraq: No Longer Smells Like Teen Spirit
06/21/09

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my neighbors seem to have several of these cd's. there's "random mardi gras parade 3 months too late in a residential neighborhood", "illegal pitbull fight", "lock my dog in the trunk and let him suffocate", "riding two horses up and down the sidewalk", "you grab the bat and i'll grab the gun and we'll have a "beat it" style fight to see who wins", and "you can't beat me, i'm a drug star. i'll straight jack your motherfucking cop car".

my neighbors suck.
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Triphena
06/21/09

@FraggleIraq: Where do you live? Deadwood?
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VirginiaDentata
06/21/09

@FraggleIraq: Yowzas! If you're looking for a new place, there's an apartment available in my building. Great landlord, good neighbors, a pool, and close to the universities. PM me if you're intersted!
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vamusical
06/21/09

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Who needs a CD when they have a clarinet, piano, AND saxophone lying around?
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katie.scarlett.o'hara
06/21/09

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Why buy this when my neighbors already have "Play Transformers loudly at 1 am when my poor mom has to go to work at 7 the next morning"? Yes, it was so loud I could tell what movie it was.
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Fridge Hussy : Is finally heading back to uni!
06/21/09

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Obnoxious neighbour stories, anyone?

I lived in a block of flats a year or so ago. One morning, at 5 or 6 - don't remember which, but it was on the dot! - the tools upstairs start blasting "Because I Got High" by Afroman at full volume. They weren't popular after that!
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tonightineed is actually Mrs. Ziegler-Spock
06/21/09

@Fridge Hussy : You Do The Meth!: The neighbors that live diagonally across from us had a huge fight one night. It was around 2am and the woman was outside SCREAMING at him, banging on the door. He had, apparently, locked her out. She was pissed, and not just about being locked out. I almost called the police, but he finally let her back in.
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hatepaperdoll
06/21/09

@Fridge Hussy : You Do The Meth!: I lived above a couple who let their 2 year old, JORRR-DAAANNN, start playing with his toy organ every morning at 6am. Occassionaly they'd get annoyed enough to scream at him to shut up. Parenting!
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Dodgergirl
06/21/09

@Fridge Hussy : You Do The Meth!: The White Album. 4:30 in the morning. On a Monday night. (I had class at 8 the next morning). So loud my whole room was shaking.
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vamusical
06/21/09

@Fridge Hussy : You Do The Meth!: My friend who was an RA in dorms always heard this couple having REALLY LOUD SEX, and one night he heard:

guy: SAY IT!

girl: no, I don't want to!

guy: SAY IT!!!!

girl: nooo, I caaaan't!!

guy: SAY IT NOW!!

girl: ok, ok... iiiiit's maaaaagicaaaal!!!
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tonightineed is actually Mrs. Ziegler-Spock
06/21/09

@vamusical: That is beautiful.
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Triphena
06/21/09

@Fridge Hussy : You Do The Meth!: At our old house, we had a family next door where both parents worked at night, and then would lock the kids outside during the day in the summer so they could sleep. So the kids would pee all over our joined back yards, including our driveway and vegetable garden. It drove my mom crazy, but when she let them in to use our bathroom, the little boy would pee all over the bathroom and the little girl had, um, poor wiping skills and would slide off the toilet leaving a trail. They also would steal our toys and their parents would deny it. I had a doll with my name embroidered on the front of her dress and the mother was like, "No, that's Michelle's. Triphena is the just the doll's name, it doesn't mean it's yours. Stop picking on my daughter!"

They moved out and this crazy woman moved in who would burst into our house like Kramer and ask to borrow our lobster crackers because her's were all rusty and you can't be too careful, you know, "with anthrax and all."
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Triphena
06/21/09

@Triphena: Also, my aunt and uncle's neighbors went to do research somewhere deep in like Uganda or something and were unreachable for days at a time, which became a problem when their car alarm went off and no one could get it shut off for THREE DAYS.
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tonightineed is actually Mrs. Ziegler-Spock
06/21/09

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Unfortunately I'm afraid we might be those neighbors right now. Our car is having a sensor issue and the alarm goes off randomly because it doesn't sense the passenger-side door is closed.

I think it's balanced because their van goes off every time there's a storm, but still, I feel awful.
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