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    The Man On Nikki Finke's "Most Powerful Women In Hollywood" List
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    Image of Alessar Alessar
    10/21/09

    In reply to The Man On Nikki Finke's "Most Powerful Women In Hollywood" List
    Why not have 10 women + 1 honorary mention?

    When it gets right down to it though, I don't really like lists that are exclusionary based on who you are. I'd rather see a list that's inclusive based on what you've done. In this case, a list of Hollywood people in power who've pushed forward gender equality and broken stereotypes.

    This situation slightly reminds me of the recent change the Lambda literary awards made: they can now only be given to out gay authors. My thought about this is that if Matthew Sheppard's mother writes a gay-themed book, she ought to be able to win the real Lambda award and not just the special "friend to the gays" award. #womeninhollywood
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    Image of Lindsay Lindsay
    10/20/09

    In reply to The Man On Nikki Finke's "Most Powerful Women In Hollywood" List
    Did they seriously spell Zooey Deschanel's name wrong ("Zoe") on the cover? Even the dumbest Stylista contestant wouldn't have let that error through. #womeninhollywood
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    Image of highjump highjump
    10/20/09

    In reply to The Man On Nikki Finke's "Most Powerful Women In Hollywood" List
    Now, I love me some SATC, but Michael Patrick King was behind some of the ickiest aspects of the movie - the fairytale ending and the ridiculous displays of wealth. Not exactly women-empowering. #womeninhollywood
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    Image of odinsraven odinsraven
    10/20/09

    In reply to The Man On Nikki Finke's "Most Powerful Women In Hollywood" List
    Also worth noting about MPK, he's been involved in "Murphy Brown," "Cybill," "Will & Grace," and Lisa Kudrow's "The Comeback." So, he basically only works on projects that feature women in interesting roles and who aren't married to fat guys in the suburbs with laugh tracks. #womeninhollywood
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    Image of PaigeTurner PaigeTurner
    10/20/09

    In reply to The Man On Nikki Finke's "Most Powerful Women In Hollywood" List
    Here's the question: If a man sympathetic to women is in power, is it as good as a woman in power? I'm going to go with: No.

    Hmm I can't say I completely agree. We can draw some parallels to the struggle for racial equality or gay rights in this same argument. You have to have sympathizers in positions of power willing to change society from the inside of the socially-accepted norm.

    Had SATC been the brainchild of a woman, perhaps it wouldn't have been as successful. There's no way to know this.. but it's interesting to consider.
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    Image of BlondeGoddess BlondeGoddess
    10/20/09

    @lolabee: SATC was the brainchild of a woman - columnist Candace Bushnell. #womeninhollywood
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    Image of PaigeTurner PaigeTurner
    10/20/09

    @BlondeGoddess: brainchild- wrong word. michael patrick king had a HUGE hand in SATC's climb to success. #womeninhollywood
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    10/20/09

    In reply to The Man On Nikki Finke's "Most Powerful Women In Hollywood" List
    It's not as good (it could be argued that it's worse – why hire women when men can do it as good or better than them, and with no maternity leave!), but I don't fault her for including him. It's an article, not an essay, and she was trying to make a point. I'm more offended when lists of the most powerful *people* in Hollywood include a token woman. #womeninhollywood
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    Image of RisaPlata RisaPlata
    10/20/09

    In reply to The Man On Nikki Finke's "Most Powerful Women In Hollywood" List
    You missed the best part of the story - King's answer: "Dear Nikki Finke,
    Just a little thank-you for the recognition of the Sex And The City work and the unexpected honor of being made an honorary woman on your Power Women in Hollywood List. The only downside — my salary was just cut in half.
    All my best, Michael Patrick King."

    I never cared for S&TC, but I love this guy! #womeninhollywood
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    Image of hovy hovy
    10/20/09

    In reply to The Man On Nikki Finke's "Most Powerful Women In Hollywood" List
    Would Finke have included King if he were heterosexual? Because there are undertones of 'Well, he's gay, therefore honorary woman!' that bother me slightly; especially when viewed in light of the previous article on Finke. #womeninhollywood
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    Image of GeorgeFayne GeorgeFayne
    10/20/09

    @hovy: DING! Thank you. #womeninhollywood
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    10/20/09

    @hovy: Great point. #womeninhollywood
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    Image of JessaFields JessaFields
    10/20/09

    In reply to The Man On Nikki Finke's "Most Powerful Women In Hollywood" List
    I've always thought Michael Patrick King ruined that show. When Darren Star was in charge, the women seemed like real people. Once he left, they became shoe-obsessed fashionistas who each had one distinguishable character trait. #womeninhollywood
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    Image of linnyt is a walking cliché linnyt is a walking cliché
    10/20/09

    In reply to The Man On Nikki Finke's "Most Powerful Women In Hollywood" List
    Why is it women against men? I think the second commenter has a good point. Sometimes we have to get points any way we can and have a man on our side can help. #womeninhollywood
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    Image of mepo - Robert Cornhole invented it mepo - Robert Cornhole invented it
    10/20/09

    In reply to The Man On Nikki Finke's "Most Powerful Women In Hollywood" List
    Any other honorary woman that should have been included? #womeninhollywood
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    Image of lilbobbytables lilbobbytables
    10/20/09

    In reply to The Man On Nikki Finke's "Most Powerful Women In Hollywood" List
    It reminds me of this Onion article:

    [www.theonion.com] #womeninhollywood
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    Image of lisas lisas
    10/20/09

    In reply to The Man On Nikki Finke's "Most Powerful Women In Hollywood" List
    I have no problem with positively reinforcing female-friendly behavior, in fact I'm pretty sure that's the only way to progress.

    Also, I'm curious about the wives & daughters section. Is it just the title that is objectionable? Or the inclusion of that category? #womeninhollywood
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