Natalie Portman is also saying "rape is cool as long as it happened a long time ago and you made some really great movies. But eating animals? So not cool."
The color of Rosie Perez's dress would make a bitchin' nail polish and/or eyeshadow.
@Tulsi: well, that's the general opinion of portman around here, so don't be surprised to run into it again.
she likened eating meat to rape. murder? yeah, we've heard that one before and it has a pretty logical background.
rape? fuck that. completely inappropriate.
And then she goes and signs the petition supporting Roman Polanski.
Ms Meghan may have been paraphrasing, but I can't say most people would blame here. That's pretty much how it came off.
@the zeeba is galápagosing it up!: That doesn't mean I agree with it. And neither do a lot of people on the board. I'm not suprised, just fed up. I thought her point was valid, although if people are going to take it in that way, it might not have been appropriate. But some of the comments regarding her views of rape are a bit ridiculous.
@Tulsi: Rhetorically, it made no sense to compare something she hates and argues against to rape while excusing rape elsewhere. Kinda takes the wind out of your argument.
@sparklesing: I was only arguing against Ms Meghan's assumptions of Natalie Portman's views, which I felt were based on very little. I can understand criticising her wording, but to assume she is ok with rape or thinks it isn't serious seems a bit extreme.
@Tulsi: How can you not think that she isn't taking this seriously? It's fact that she made an analogy comparing eating meat to rape, just as much as it is fact that she signed the petition. If she's going to do this good work and be known for that, she should be equally held accountable for public statements she makes.
Kristen Wiig is so confused. She was sure she meant to be mother of the bride. But then she thought maybe, since it's the holiday season and JerseyGrrrl has already decorated her Christmas tree, that red tights and an elf palette were more au courant. But then, well, weren't Minnetonkas so hot five minutes ago and can't they be for just a little longer??
PICK ONE LOOK, KRISTEN. I love you. You made me giggle in Whip It. But PICK ONE.
@badmutha: I don't get that either. I also don't get why the heels she's wearing disqualify that look from being "holiday". That whole caption went pretty well over my head.
If anyone needs to be called out on crazypants makeup, it's Amy Landecker.
@Leucadia: I knew it went over my head! Still doesn't make sense to me (I don't buy the idea that the outfit has to be full-on 80s to be successful, and pulling elements from different eras is a misstep), but at least I understand the capitalization now.
Patricia Clarkson's dress is fantastic in both cut and color (I'm always drawn to things I could never wear: that neckline would be super vulgar on a chesty girl), but are those shoes edging into hooker territory or am I just a fusty old lady?
@bluebears: Yeah, between her glowing skin, political activism, awesome rack, and frequent guest-hosting on NPR, she's really high on my "want to be her when I grow up" list.
@bluebears: I guess it's WNYC-specific. She's always on the Leonard Lopate Show talking about gentrification in Brooklyn and local politics, and every single caller exhorts the producers to give Rosie her own show. It's fantastic.
I feel like Natalie Portman hasn't worn a flattering neckline in quite a while. She's undeniably lovely, so she manages to pull off most of the things she wears, but the necklines are off. It's like she doesn't know her own figure. The star themed bedsheet dress from last week springs to mind.
@SomeAuthorGirl: I can barely look at pictures of her anymore. The Polanski support followed by that article comparing meat eating to rape? It just makes me think she is not a friend to women in general and that slightly sickens me.
@bluebears: I think it's possible that she's young/ignorant. All the academic achievement in the world cannot buy sense, and that's a fact. Still, she is old enough to know right from wrong, a, and b, I too find it morally repugnant to lob insultingly poor metaphors down from an ivory tower about food while condoning the rape of a child.
@GreyCat: I knew there was a reason I loved you. I am going to Five Brothers tonight and I'm going to fuck the shit out of a BCB. I might also diddle some fries.
PS--Agreed that NPort is off the list until she admits wrongdoing and redacts her statements about Polanski etc. I've even told boyfriend that he is to cease and desist any naughty thoughts of her effective immediately.
@SomeAuthorGirl: I like that you're showing tolerance, but her education gives her even less of an excuse for her ignorance. Part of the purpose of higher education is to expand your mind and heighten your rationality.
It seems like her years at Harvard did none of that, and instead left her with cloudy moral judgment and bad taste in music.
Plus, for me, the age thing doesn't hold water, since she's a few years older than I am, and we have many commenters here much younger with a better grasp on right vs. wrong.
That being said, I truly do hope you're right. I've enjoyed her work in the past and would like to enjoy it again. I just can't get past her recent pronouncements and thus am unable to justify paying to see her work. Plus, it now turns me off to even look at her. Which sucks too. Let's all hope she comes around to reason.
@bluebears: Seriously? We're STILL talking about her? After not even reading the HuffPo article and the meat/rape statement? When will you Jezzies learn to actually do your research before spewing judgmental, holier-than-thou comments?
Shohreh Aghdashloo's neckline is distracting me. It's like one of those optical illusion tests: "Is that a sharp neckline or a flesh-colored letter opener taped on top of her black dress?"
See I'm kinda disappointed that the had to be so heavy handed with the stoning scene. Just shooting a single shot view of that scene w/ no slow-mo, no fancy camera angles would have been MORE powerful to me. An act as powerful as that doesn't need to stylized to highlight how horrific it is.
People went in droves to see not only The Passion of the Christ but also Saw and its sequels.
People really aren't that squeamish about violence, even when it is pointless and graphic like it is in Saw.
If few people see this movie, it isn't going to be because of the violence its going to be because people like their violence to be enjoyable and not something that makes them question how women are treated around the world.
See for me the difference between this and a "slasher" pic is this actually HAPPENED. I mean this is totally personal to me but when I know the violence actually happened to a living person I find it much harder to sit through for entertainment purposes. I mean I don't see many "important" movies because of this ie. Schindlers List or Roots. I'm just really visual and its so incredibly upsetting to me. But movies like Saw I have no problem with, they're almost like cartoons.
I just READ a stoning scene for the first time (in 'The Kite Runner') and that was even hard to handle...but I figure if I can sit through slasher flicks for entertainment, I should buck up and see this.
@mass romantic: OMG. I cried (sobbed really) on a plane at the end of that book. It was too the point where I worried the flight attendants and they were asking me if I was okay.
It takes a really well-written book to make me cry in public.
Perhaps they should have had megan fox star in it and make the stoning scene last three minutes, during which time her top rips off and she flutters her eyelashes and makes her O face then delicately dies... wtf. it's a stoning. The real account probably did last 20 minutes- and these atrocities happen all of the time.
Also the argument about it being too violent for US audiences is shit b/c everyone went to see Transformers. The Kite Runner was up for an academy award and that stoning scene was horrific.
@maggiethecat: With all due respect, the stoning in this movie was much worse than the scene in the Kite Runner. I was fortunate enough to see this movie last weekend at the LA Film Festival, and the stoning scene is so awful, it is almost indescribable. Yes, I am sure the real stoning took that long, if not longer. But I wouldn't pay to witness a real stoning. I attended the movie to get educated (and to stare at Shohreh Aghdashloo - that voice!), and yet I found myself having to stare at the floor many times in order to prevent myself from feeling ill.
The last time I felt this way was the beginning of Saving Private Ryan which I saw when I was much younger. Stoning Soraya is still many times worse than that.
I don't know what I am trying to say...other than the scene wouldn't have lost any of its effectiveness if it had been shortened to say, 10 minutes.
Outside of the stoning scene, it was an incredible movie. I would hate that the unbelievable violence at the end would keep someone from seeing this important film.
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The color of Rosie Perez's dress would make a bitchin' nail polish and/or eyeshadow.
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she likened eating meat to rape. murder? yeah, we've heard that one before and it has a pretty logical background.
rape? fuck that. completely inappropriate.
And then she goes and signs the petition supporting Roman Polanski.
Ms Meghan may have been paraphrasing, but I can't say most people would blame here. That's pretty much how it came off.
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In addition to everything else she is Harvard educated and should conceivably know better.
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PICK ONE LOOK, KRISTEN. I love you. You made me giggle in Whip It. But PICK ONE.
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3: I'll never get over the Polanski support. Sorry. Natalie Portman is off my list.
5: I actually like this dress. I wish it wasn't wrinkled from the car.
11: Ms. Aghdashloo, please let me grow up to be like you.
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PS--Agreed that NPort is off the list until she admits wrongdoing and redacts her statements about Polanski etc. I've even told boyfriend that he is to cease and desist any naughty thoughts of her effective immediately.
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It seems like her years at Harvard did none of that, and instead left her with cloudy moral judgment and bad taste in music.
Plus, for me, the age thing doesn't hold water, since she's a few years older than I am, and we have many commenters here much younger with a better grasp on right vs. wrong.
That being said, I truly do hope you're right. I've enjoyed her work in the past and would like to enjoy it again. I just can't get past her recent pronouncements and thus am unable to justify paying to see her work. Plus, it now turns me off to even look at her. Which sucks too. Let's all hope she comes around to reason.
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People really aren't that squeamish about violence, even when it is pointless and graphic like it is in Saw.
If few people see this movie, it isn't going to be because of the violence its going to be because people like their violence to be enjoyable and not something that makes them question how women are treated around the world.
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It takes a really well-written book to make me cry in public.
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Also the argument about it being too violent for US audiences is shit b/c everyone went to see Transformers. The Kite Runner was up for an academy award and that stoning scene was horrific.
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The last time I felt this way was the beginning of Saving Private Ryan which I saw when I was much younger. Stoning Soraya is still many times worse than that.
I don't know what I am trying to say...other than the scene wouldn't have lost any of its effectiveness if it had been shortened to say, 10 minutes.
Outside of the stoning scene, it was an incredible movie. I would hate that the unbelievable violence at the end would keep someone from seeing this important film.
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