I'm so glad my high school experience was nothing like this lol - but I was a bit of an oddball anyway :: Pom captain, drama nerd, choir geek, mathlete all rolled in one.
My favorite line of Juno was about how the hunky football player secretly was in love with the girl who played the cello, read McSweeneys and wanted to go to a liberal arts school. As a cello playing, McSweeneys reading, English BA holding woman, I can really appreciate that (although none of the football players were in love with me, but I didn't care for any of the jocks at my high school either)
Um, she's like 16. I really doubt she has much say in anything related to her music career, including what her videos are gonna look like. Give the girl a break.
@phantomfly: Actually she has a ton of influence. She is very conscious of what she is doing with her career, music, tour etc. and for the most part she has a good head on her shoulders. I watched the huge hour interview with her last week. When asked about writing songs about boys she has dated and naming names she said "well maybe they shouldn't have been so mean..." But I do agree, she is young and for her, maybe this is how she envisioned it.
"Oh, and just wait until you see Hunky McHighschool five years after graduation. You'll be glad that you had your awesome specs on to see right through him."
A bit of a tired stereotype too, no? The hot jock turns into a sad, beer drinking loser. The cheerleader has five kids and a bad marriage. The nerdy girl grows into her looks and turns out to be a total successful hotty, with a happy family and a great career, probably married to the nerdy guy who went on to make millions as a computer programmer.
It's the same old fantasy, just drawn out until the high-school reunion instead of the big dance. Often times, hot people stay hot, successful people stay successful, and not every geek or nerd is little caterpillar of potential waiting to leave high school and emerge into an attractive, successful adult butterfly. The most likely reality is that most of us end up on about the same level a few years down the line. Better to live your life as best you can than worry about having the best revenge by out-doing Hotty McJock.
@ashke: I meant it in the context of teen films, wherein the "jock" character is always a bit of a scumbag. The point is: don't try to mold yourself to impress a scumbag just because he's cute and popular now. Does this apply to every hot jock? No. But in the context of these fantasies that are thrown at kids all the damn time, it usually does.
@greengrey: I've seen that phenomenon. But mostly? The really popular kids I went to school with had Money. With Money they were able to go to better schools, have better connections, have easier access to better jobs, go to better health clubs with better trainers and dietitians, have cosmetic procedures, etc etc.
Most of them all stayed hot and successful. But many of them were also very nice people. Though I'd be lying if I said there wasn't an asshole or two...
@drinkyrose: Well... I've seen a lot of people echo this same sort of statement on Jez (that the popular kids at their high schools were the ones with wealth). But I would argue that for most high schools (aka non-affluent ones), this really isn't the case. I went to a quintessential middle-America HS in a small town, and because everyone's sort of middle class, the hierarchies are more based on athleticism, partying, etc.
Not saying this isn't true for you, of course. But on the whole, most schools aren't in areas with a lot of money and values placed on education (sadly), so I think the general sentiment of Hottie McJock turning into Joe Sixpack Beerbelly still holds true for the most part.
I second the calling of shenanigans, and I too typically think Taylor Swift is a good egg.
I just hate the whole "oooh, please like me even though I'm a nerd with glasses, see I'll get contacts and new clothes for you, see, see, SEE???!!!" Yeah, let's keep telling young girls that this is Reality (TM).
Young Jezebels: allow me to add my voice to the chorus telling you not to buy into it. High school and college mean nothing 5 and 10 years later. She who is a dork today 10 years on is a doctor of something, a vice president, a designer of things, an engineer, a chef... I could keep going, but you get the picture.
@SomeAuthorGirl: Word. I had a friend in high school who was the holy trifecta of high school outcast: Gothy, drama nerd, and band geek. She is now a super-hot nerd working on her PhD in anthropology and everyone at the reunion was bowled over by her. The high school hot girls were still acting like they were hot shit, but they still had the nasty attitude that meant we didn't like them in high school, and people like it even less when you're 28.
Bahaha, all I remember about the kids in the band in that they were always giving head to each other on the back of the schoolbus and such--they were totally the Sexually Active Band Geeks of Mean Girls fame.
Band geeks get a lot of play, which unfortunately the rest of us had to watch while they were making out in public *shudder*.
@HereComesMyBaby: @LoSpaz: By far my most sexually active friends were band geeks and colorguard nerds. All those flags and those flutes.... SHENANIGANS in the band room!
@spiraloflife: When my husband gets insurance that I can get on, the first thing I'm going to do is get my eyes checked in the hopes that I can get glasses. I think they're so hot and Coach had really cute ones!
Yup - I was a theatre nerd in high school and I think all the boys were afraid of me. Never had one date in high school. I was sad sometimes, but I wasn't changing for nobody. Then I found a dude who liked me the way I was and married him. Now we're nerds together!
The moral of the story is: nerds are better anyway.
It is lame, but nowhere near as bad as Avril Lavigne's Girlfriend, in which the girlfriend Avril wanted to replace was a geek (with glasses, obviously). It's like the 80s, 90s and 00s never happened - the geek as target of ridicule again...
@heykoukla: That song is so unbelievably offensive to me, even though it really shouldn't be. So much for progress. I guess we'll all be watching the geek vs. the "hot chick" battle it out until the geek takes off her glasses and stuns us all.
@heykoukla: It's catchy as hell, but the lyrics utterly obnoxious. That this song was so popular that it was translated into Chinese, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Spanish, etc. depresses me.
@annagsquared: @BiteMeMitchell!: @greengrey:@Your Screenplay Sucks: When I first heard the song I thought it was just a bit of catchy, fun pop, and that opinion would have remained if the video showed The Girlfriend as a Paris Hilton type, you know? Instead I was left fretting that Kids These Days™ hate geeks.
So this is basically another song in the Avril Lavigne "Girlfriend" vein, except with a soggier beat? I'd add that I'm over these delusional "your girlfriend is a stupid bimbo who sucks and doesn't understand your brilliance like me, why don't you see that??" songs
In the unlikely event that his girlfriend actually lacks your profound depths & wide-ranging intellect, he picked her so that tells you something about what's important to him. Know your audience.
@Your Screenplay Sucks: Right. So he's either not the sharpest tool, or of the shhhh! just be pretty no need to talk variety. The first will exasperate you, the second will just make you uppity. Get a vibe.
Wasn't the homely highschool girl turns hot when taking out her ponytail and removing her glasses taken to task in one of the countless spoof movies in the 90's?
No! Not Janey Briggs! She's got GLASSES and a PONYTAIL! And PAINT COVERED OVERALLS! Too hard! Too hard!
Also, when she has the glasses on, all I could think of was that I was looking at what Karen Brewer would have looked like if she ever made it out of second grade and eventually became a high school student.
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"Oh, and just wait until you see Hunky McHighschool five years after graduation. You'll be glad that you had your awesome specs on to see right through him."
A bit of a tired stereotype too, no? The hot jock turns into a sad, beer drinking loser. The cheerleader has five kids and a bad marriage. The nerdy girl grows into her looks and turns out to be a total successful hotty, with a happy family and a great career, probably married to the nerdy guy who went on to make millions as a computer programmer.
It's the same old fantasy, just drawn out until the high-school reunion instead of the big dance. Often times, hot people stay hot, successful people stay successful, and not every geek or nerd is little caterpillar of potential waiting to leave high school and emerge into an attractive, successful adult butterfly. The most likely reality is that most of us end up on about the same level a few years down the line. Better to live your life as best you can than worry about having the best revenge by out-doing Hotty McJock.
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In my experience, the people who "peak" in high school only have room to get worse.
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Most of them all stayed hot and successful. But many of them were also very nice people. Though I'd be lying if I said there wasn't an asshole or two...
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Not saying this isn't true for you, of course. But on the whole, most schools aren't in areas with a lot of money and values placed on education (sadly), so I think the general sentiment of Hottie McJock turning into Joe Sixpack Beerbelly still holds true for the most part.
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I just hate the whole "oooh, please like me even though I'm a nerd with glasses, see I'll get contacts and new clothes for you, see, see, SEE???!!!" Yeah, let's keep telling young girls that this is Reality (TM).
Young Jezebels: allow me to add my voice to the chorus telling you not to buy into it. High school and college mean nothing 5 and 10 years later. She who is a dork today 10 years on is a doctor of something, a vice president, a designer of things, an engineer, a chef... I could keep going, but you get the picture.
Don't. Buy. It.
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Band geeks get a lot of play, which unfortunately the rest of us had to watch while they were making out in public *shudder*.
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The moral of the story is: nerds are better anyway.
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In the unlikely event that his girlfriend actually lacks your profound depths & wide-ranging intellect, he picked her so that tells you something about what's important to him. Know your audience.
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Help me here jezebelles.
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Also, main character is Lexi from Grey's Anatomy! Mindfuck.
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Also, when she has the glasses on, all I could think of was that I was looking at what Karen Brewer would have looked like if she ever made it out of second grade and eventually became a high school student.
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