@theovercoat: I'm sorry. Are you saying people from Pennsylvania have a distinct look? Or just a certain part of Pennsylvania? That would make tons more sense.
@Samanthrax: I think it's a matter of growing up here and also that I just see it. It's not necessarily distinct and exact, but a certain vibe. But i could be just seeing something that isn't there.
And actually, I think I did specify the town by saying the people I grew up with.
That Harlem Renaissance editorial is fucking awesome, I think. And, I actually do like the composition of the Campbell photo with the elephant--kind of like a modern spin on that Avedon photo. The monkey thing.....I don't really know what to do with that.
I'm wondering whether successful, established models like Campbell have any input when it comes to creative direction. One would think that she could have declined to do this job if she found the primitivist tropes offensive, but do models have any say in how they are posed, what they wear, etc? Would it have been possible for her to compel the photographer to do a shoot that didn't marshal tired motifs of Black women as fetishized and animalistic? Perhaps someone with more knowledge of the modeling/fashion industry than I could shed some light on this.
Without the other images in the set, I kind of like the picture of Naomi Campbell on an elephant. She looks happy and like she's having a good time and elephants always make me smile. If it had been in a piece on, say, out of the way tourism and the other images had been in the English countryside and a Japanese fishing village it would be an absolutely adorable picture. In a spread that features her skipping rope with monkeys and racing a cheetah, it's absolutely loathsome.
@Dodai: I don't even get this. Are magazine editors and photographers seriously that unaware of the history of race and race relations? Do they exist in some sort of ahistorical vacuum where nothing is in context? How could someone possibly approve a photo like that?
@NellMood: well, as Jenna said, the photographer is the same one who put Grace Jones in a cage with the words "Do Not Feed The Animal." His book was called "Jungle Fever." So *he* knows what he's doing.
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Does...does that model have curves?? On her hips and thighs??? Quel horreur!
(Note: that picture is beautiful and gorgeous. I wish more models nowadays had beautiful curvy figures like that model)
@Antonella: A while ago when I was reading Andy Warhol's diaries from the 70s & 80s, I came across a reference to Anna Wintour, and how she 'had terrible taste in clothes' basically. I thought it was hilarious.
Everything has already been said about her at this point, but I'm still kind of dumbfounded that she herself isn't embarrassed about all of the obviously derivative editorials she does, not to mention the re-runs.
I was shocked to see real hips and thighs on the model in photo 20. Wouldn't she be fat by the standards of modern Anna?
(I simply can't believe how ugly and unflattering the clothes and frizzy hair were--and I was in my 20s in the 80s.)
The then/now comparisons really drive home how very skinny today's models are compared to the 80's aesthetic. Look at the hips on #20 - there's no WAY that would escape the Photoshop airbrush in today's Vogue.
I much prefer the old school style, and now I has a sad.
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Also, I love to watch Cindy Crawford's Meaningful Beauty infomercial. It is so...over the top.
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And actually, I think I did specify the town by saying the people I grew up with.
In any case, she definitely has the accent.
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Picture #20
Does...does that model have curves?? On her hips and thighs??? Quel horreur!
(Note: that picture is beautiful and gorgeous. I wish more models nowadays had beautiful curvy figures like that model)
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Everything has already been said about her at this point, but I'm still kind of dumbfounded that she herself isn't embarrassed about all of the obviously derivative editorials she does, not to mention the re-runs.
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(I simply can't believe how ugly and unflattering the clothes and frizzy hair were--and I was in my 20s in the 80s.)
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I much prefer the old school style, and now I has a sad.
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