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    "That's What Sets Me Apart, Boxing With The Lads" • Town Outlaws Owning More Than 3 Cats

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    Image of dirtybee dirtybee
    11/03/09

    In reply to "That's What Sets Me Apart, Boxing With The Lads" • Town Outlaws Owning More Than 3 Cats
    As a concrete researcher, I must say that one of my very very pet peeves is when the term concrete and cement are used intermittently. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING!! #boxing
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    11/03/09

    @dirtybee: So what's the difference? You can't exclaim something like that and then not follow-up with the education! ;) #boxing
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    11/03/09

    @JRae: Cement is a binding agent. Concrete is a mixture of water, cement, fine aggregate (sand), and coarse aggregate (gravel), with admixture. Cement is an ingredient of concrete. Like eggs are to cake. #boxing
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    11/04/09

    @Vulcan Has No Moon: Thank you :-)

    In short, cement is the powder that you add to your water and aggregates to create a hardened product that is concrete.

    So let's hope that you are driving on a concrete pavement and not a cement one, because if that would be the case - you'd be driving on a nice grey powder. #boxing
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    11/04/09

    @JRae: Sorry I need to un-hide all the comments so I didn't see yours :( #boxing
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    11/03/09

    In reply to "That's What Sets Me Apart, Boxing With The Lads" • Town Outlaws Owning More Than 3 Cats
    Dear Mary Ellen,

    If you want to keep 15 cats and live in a town, keep them indoors and off your neighbor's property. As long as you scoop the litterboxes daily all should be fine and no one will ever know how many cats you really have in there.

    And yes, I speak from experience. No further details will be disclosed.

    Gretchen #boxing
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    11/03/09

    In reply to Judge Judy Won't Rule In Favor Of Litigants Who Make Bitch Faces
    I'm really starting to think that JJ doesn't like other women in any capacity.
    She told a woman today who claimed that her ex-boyfriend threatened her life if she told the police the drugs she held were his that "if that was true, you wouldn't be here today."
    Which, I don't know, may or may not be true, but JJ's casual dismissal of what the woman was claiming bothered me intensely. #judgejudysexualmisconduct
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    11/03/09

    In reply to Judge Judy Won't Rule In Favor Of Litigants Who Make Bitch Faces
    It's alarming that JJ, as well as so many people on here, seem to be saying that she gave up the right to be taken seriously in the sexual abuse case when she made bad decisions in unrelated areas of her life. I feel like by not taking her seriously, she is being punished for decisions she's already been punished for and not getting justice when she may very well have been a victim. As for the inconsistencies, it often happens with abuse victims that the memories blur together into one event instead of separate days. The remark that she knew him from a previous foster situation should give her claims MORE credence, not less, since he would likely be more comfortable joking around inappropriately with someone he already knew outside of work. Honestly, I feel like JJ really dropped the ball on this one, letting her feelings about the morality of the rest of this woman's life dictate her feelings about the alleged sexual assault. And the "bitchface" everyone is talking about looks like she's simply trying not to cry. If she indeed was a victim of sexual abuse, which i believe she is, she might have been fighting back a PTSD flashback. Come on, people. With the number of sexual assault victims on this forum, I am shocked with the amount of victim-shaming and moral judgy-ness around here.
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    Image of Gavagirl Gavagirl
    11/03/09

    @Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini: If she isn't a victim, it's liar-shaming, not victim-shaming. Not everyone tells the truth about these things, and the attitude that every single charge of abuse should be taken seriously (or automatically believed) is exactly the kind of attitude that can make it easy for a manipulative, malevolent person to destroy other people's lives. Claiming that since some people tell the truth about abuse, we should believe everybody claiming abuse is just as irrational as claiming that since some people lie about it, we should believe nobody.

    Furthermore, a court is not supposed to use "feelings" to come to judgment about cases. Nor does the court system exist to take care of people's feelings, or improve those feelings. Cases are supposed to be decided according to evidence, statute, and legal precedent. People with problems with their feelings go to therapists. #judgejudysexualmisconduct
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    11/03/09

    @Gavagirl: um, come back to me when you've actually read my comment. Nothing you responded to there were things I actually said.

    I do agree with your point about how the court's shouldn't use their feelings. The only time I mentioned anyone's "feelings" was in reference to JJ letting her feelings about other choices this woman has made dictate her judgment here instead of looking at the facts and precedent and how that was a problem. So since, I agree with you, i really don't get what you're trying to argue with me about. #judgejudysexualmisconduct
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    11/03/09

    @Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini: My argument is the assumption that she must be a victim. She would have to be for anyone to be "victim-shaming", right? She apparently already failed to prove she is a victim, legally speaking, since after she had him arrested but he was acquitted, so why should JJ treat her as a victim now? The facts don't bear that out, and she isn't the plaintiff here anyway. Her claim against him has already been dealt with.

    Now, I don't know that she necessarily should have found in HIS favor, since if he's the plaintiff it's his job to prove she made all this up. That is a tough thing to do, and I don't think he met that burden of proof. He'd need something like an email or MySpace post where she stated she made it up to really support his case.

    I think a dismissal would have been a better outcome. I definitely agree with you that JJ's interpretation of her past and her behavior in court seem to have inappropriately influenced her $2500 judgment, but that's because his case was weak, not because that judgment is traumatizing to the defendant. #judgejudysexualmisconduct
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    11/03/09

    In reply to "That's What Sets Me Apart, Boxing With The Lads" • Town Outlaws Owning More Than 3 Cats
    So in the interest of making abortion harder to access ([jezebel.com]), some people are holding up legislation that could prevent the actual deaths of actual infants? Because what, if it's not a choice, it's okay? GUESS WHAT? THIS IS A CHOICE. THIS IS A CHOICE YOU ARE MAKING TO MAKE IT HARDER FOR LOW-INCOME WOMEN TO HAVE PRENATAL CARE.

    I would like to go home now. #boxing
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    11/03/09

    In reply to Judge Judy Won't Rule In Favor Of Litigants Who Make Bitch Faces
    All I know is that my next job better let me watch Guiding Light while laying stomach-down on two office chairs. #judgejudysexualmisconduct
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    11/03/09

    @Nancy Sin: Seriously! My job is one fully-backed office chair away from the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory. #judgejudysexualmisconduct
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    11/03/09

    In reply to "That's What Sets Me Apart, Boxing With The Lads" • Town Outlaws Owning More Than 3 Cats
    Doesn't take much to make me happy when I'm away from home. Curling irons, yoga mats, and issues of "Glamour" comes close.

    That hotel in Vancouver really needs to add complimentary yogurt to really rock my world. #boxing
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    11/03/09

    @MissConductPDX: Only if the yogurt has pro-biotics! #boxing
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    Image of rah29 rah29
    11/03/09

    In reply to "That's What Sets Me Apart, Boxing With The Lads" • Town Outlaws Owning More Than 3 Cats
    It always cracks me up how Ireland does well at boxing in the olympics. We can't play most sports, we can't manage our economy, but we sure as hell can drink and fight. Well done us.

    Oh, and we can play a hell of a rugby match too... though I probably shouldn't tempt fate a week and a half before the first autumn international.
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    11/03/09

    @rah29: don't forget your quick-wit, charm and musical abilities - I LOVE the feckin' oirish! ; ) #boxing
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    11/03/09

    @rah29: also: hurling. that game terrifies me. #boxing
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    11/03/09

    @onthecornerofparkerandwoolf: Hurling and its female equivalent, camogie, are insane. They essentially just involve running around a pitch beating the shit out of people with sticks. But we probably oughtn't take too much national pride in being good at a game that we invented and only we play (on the other hand we don't call the All-Ireland final a 'World Series', tee hee).
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    11/03/09

    @rah29: i know-- i lived in ireland for a while, and there was a hurling pitch not to far from my apartment. i love watching it on tv, but i hated having to walk past practice to get to the store. #boxing
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    Image of Triana Orpheus Triana Orpheus
    11/03/09

    In reply to "That's What Sets Me Apart, Boxing With The Lads" • Town Outlaws Owning More Than 3 Cats
    Her father said "you could write 10 pages" about what he had to do to get her into the Irish Amateur Boxing Association.

    I'm from Texas and we're prone to exaggeration down here and I had to chuckle at this bit because I know I would have said "You could write a freaking novel..." I love that her dad was so precise in his measurement of how many pages could be written. #boxing
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    11/03/09

    @Triana Orpheus: Since i'm in the mood to split hairs, he just said that he could write 10 pages, not that he could only write 10 pages, for all we know he was refering to the 10 pages of introduction to the 2 volume complete works. #boxing
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    11/03/09

    In reply to "That's What Sets Me Apart, Boxing With The Lads" • Town Outlaws Owning More Than 3 Cats
    Dear pro-lifers.
    Would you like to save the babies? Then please redirect all funds spent on harassing women/spreading misinformation/threatening abortion providers to prenatal care.
    K?
    Much Love.
    Snark. #boxing
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    Image of JerseyGrrrl JerseyGrrrl
    11/03/09

    In reply to "That's What Sets Me Apart, Boxing With The Lads" • Town Outlaws Owning More Than 3 Cats
    So Katie Taylor** can fight with the men. She can sit in the same room of the pub as the men. But, oh Ireland, won't you give her her reproductive freedom too?

    **I love learning about badass women. It's almost a fixture here on Jez: Meet the fierce lady you weren't aware of a moment ago! #boxing
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    11/03/09

    @JerseyGrrrl: I just finished the article and I want to be as bad-ass as Katie Taylor! Go Katie! #boxing
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    11/03/09

    @sassyredhead: yeah, I'm oft a bad-ass vicariously, through Jezebel.

    sidenote: seriously! I was just in Dublin and wft! with abortion being illegal. crazytown. #boxing
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    11/03/09

    In reply to "That's What Sets Me Apart, Boxing With The Lads" • Town Outlaws Owning More Than 3 Cats
    I love that those women have to hold signs proclaiming they stole from a child on her birthday. They should have to do that every year on her birthday. Stealing from kids...nice. #boxing
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    11/03/09

    @ides: I have to admit, I feel like if I saw something like that, I would think it was some weird in-joke.

    But that's probably from spending too much time in New York. #boxing
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    Image of JinxyMcDeath JinxyMcDeath
    11/03/09

    In reply to Judge Judy Won't Rule In Favor Of Litigants Who Make Bitch Faces
    "the burden of proof for the plaintiff was much heavier than "beyond a reasonable doubt."

    Nope. The burden of proof is less in civil court and merely requires the plaintiff to prove her/his case by the "preponderance of evidence." Meaning, crudely, that it's 51% likely the plaintiff is correct.

    This is why O.J. lost his civil court case, the burden of proof was a lot less than in a criminal case wherein the jury has to determine "beyond a reasonable doubt." #judgejudysexualmisconduct
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    11/03/09

    @JinxyMcDeath: Tracie has it right, but its worded in a confusing way. You are correct that the burden on the plaintiff in a civil case is lower than the burden on the state in a criminal case, but here the plaintiff in the civil case was the *defendant* in the criminal case. The important point here is the burden on the store owner in each case.

    In the criminal case, all this gentleman had to do was introduce reasonable doubt into the mind of the judge/jury. That's a very low bar for the defendant (which corresponds to the high bar for the state).

    In this civil case, the store owner is now the plaintiff, and has to meet a preponderance of the evidence. That bar is, as you say, only 51%, but it's higher than the bar he had to meet when he was a defendant in criminal court. #judgejudysexualmisconduct
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    11/03/09

    @Cairn: I'm aware. I'm a trial attorney. #judgejudysexualmisconduct
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    11/03/09

    @JinxyMcDeath: Best. Response. Ever. #judgejudysexualmisconduct
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    11/03/09

    In reply to Judge Judy Won't Rule In Favor Of Litigants Who Make Bitch Faces
    Man, there's not enough salt in the world for that girl. #judgejudysexualmisconduct
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    11/03/09

    In reply to Judge Judy Won't Rule In Favor Of Litigants Who Make Bitch Faces
    any idea where he accent is from? #judgejudysexualmisconduct
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    11/03/09

    @rd2uk: southern? #judgejudysexualmisconduct
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    11/03/09

    @rd2uk: I watched this one yesterday, and I remember them saying that they were from Ohio. #judgejudysexualmisconduct
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    Image of missdona missdona
    11/03/09

    @rd2uk: Baltimore? #judgejudysexualmisconduct
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    11/03/09

    @rd2uk: Bal'more or Pitt'burg. Very similar. #judgejudysexualmisconduct
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    11/03/09

    @rd2uk: That's gotta be Philly. #judgejudysexualmisconduct
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