Honestly, my first reaction was all, "Yay! A woman with pubic hair! Waxing be damned!" and then I read the comments and realized I'm weird again. #badvertising
Pubic hair does not make people want donuts, as far as I know. And what's with advertising donuts solely to men? I want donuts too. Well, not so much after looking at that picture. Seriously, no one wants to connect the food they're eating with pubic hair, even if it comes from a hot vagina (I'm not even going to say hot chick, they've made it very clear that the owner of said vagina is irrelevant).
@sarasasa: Are they being advertised soley to men? This was an advertisement created for Bitch, a magazine with a predominantly female audience. And there are plenty of women who like women, of course. #badvertising
@NellMood: If it was specifically created for Bitch and not just offered to it like they would any other magazine, I actually find it more offensive. It's like they were operating under the good old fashion assumption that feminist=lesbian. Anyway, I don't see why an ad for junk food should be targeted according to sexual orientation, whatever that may be. And I still don't want pubic hair and food in the same mental picture. #badvertising
@sarasasa: I agree that pubic hair does not belong with food, definitely. I actually think this an ad for the underwear they sell at voodoo (it says doughnut apparel on the side, but it's hard to see). I definitely understand your reaction, but I see this more as a Portland business trying to support another Portland business. I think their message got muddled and isn't clear at all, but I also don't think that the owners of voodoo are misogynist assholes. #badvertising
@HidingInCanada: Me too. It's a feminist statement! Come on!
Actually, I don't really see what's "sexist" about this ad. They're implying that vaginas are good. And/or tasty. And/or appealing in their natural, hairy state. I would understand if Bitch had a policy against sex/sexuality in advertising in general, or against using slang words for genitalia, but I think you have to really reach to see this as "against [their] mission statement to be anti-sexist."
@egg cream is here, is second tier, get used to it: how about the objectification and dehumanization of a shot devoid of the woman's face ? Just a disembodied crotch implying its good says its the vagine itself not the woman that's worthy. #badvertising
@Alohamaid: What about advertisements for rings or bracelets? Where's the rest of the woman's body there?
The picture would have to be really big, or the woman would have to be contorted into a really weird position, to be able to see the details of the underwear AND her face. #badvertising
This was CLEARLY placed by Cosmopolitan, but not because they're sexist! For too long, they've been encouraging women to eat donuts off their boyfriend's cocks. Now they think it's time to nibble a kruller out of your girlfriends panties. They want to run it in their own magazine, but they're testing it out in Bitch first, to see how it will go over. #badvertising
@Uncommon Whore: When I was in college in Portland Voodoo had a donut with nyquil in it, but they had to stop serving it. I think that place is more about the weirdness factor- I never thought the donuts were that great. #badvertising
@NellMood: Okay, what? Nyquil? You're right, it is about the weirdness. Nyquil doesn't taste good, period. And neither does Tang sprinkled on vanilla frosting, or stale cocoa puffs. I will withhold judgment on the bacon maple bar, however. #badvertising
@Uncommon Whore: Yeah, I never tried it. Apparently you can't serve medicine in restaurants, so they got rid of it. It's a fun place to stumble into at 2am after drinking all night, but not something I would necessarily seek out sober. #badvertising
@Uncommon Whore: Voodoo is overrated. their doughnuts, often times, are stale and not that great. I live in Portland and will take guests there. Good but I would rather have other doughnuts. #badvertising
And yet most media outlets missed out on the greatest sports story of the weekend: Christie Rampone coached and captained her team to the first Women's Pro Soccer championship while three months pregnant. That's the most hardcore thing I've ever heard.
I don't mind articles about how athletes who happen to have vaginas combine motherhood and sports. Bearing a child is very physically taxing and it will effect any physical career- sports, dance, construction, carpentry.
But I am really offended by the idea that I should care what eyeliner competitive female surfers wear. No one expects me to care how Tom Brady accentuates his shoulders in his fashion choices.
@clevernamehere: I agree about the motherhood thing, IF the conversation is about the physical feat of pregnancy, childbirth, then getting back into elite physical condition. The fact that Paula Radcliffe won the NYC marathon 9 months after giving birth is incredible, and should be celebrated.
What bothers me is when commentators say things like, "She must be thinking about her little girl right now" or "She's doing this for moms everywhere!" There's this weird assumption that athletes who are also mothers are driven by their children, whereas nobody ever says that about male athletes who are also fathers. It's just treated in a way that's really different.
Last week, Caster Semenya's gender identity made big news as people began to question whether a woman, who "looks like a man," as everyone kept reminding us, could really be such a good athlete.
For the last time, the IAAF did not request that she be tested solely because she "looks like a man," although she does, undeniably.
The sex identification test -- a battery of examinations -- was requested after several red flags:
Well before she competed in Berlin, her testosterone test showed that she had three times the normal level of testosterone in her system. She also showed a highly unusual degree of improvement in a very short time. There also was at least one protest pursuant to the IAAF's rules, which originated in her native South Africa.
@1.1.1.: I pointed this out in a thread a week or so back - it wasn't just "she looka like a man;" her times showed a really rapid improvement, which, under most circumstances, would only happen with some, err, extra enhancements. (Usain Bolt, in contrast, was totally dominating at the junior level, and no one who follows track and field was surprised he would continue to dominate at the senior level. although i find the gap between him and his competition pretty damn shocking. anyway, that is neither here nor there)
Problem is, most of the dopers are ahead of the tests. Semenya, from what I heard, passed her drug test. So did Armstrong, Bolt, and Phelps. Are they juicin' it up? I don't know - if we keep their old pee in a fridge somewhere, maybe ten years from now we can test it and find out. Today, we give them the benefit of the doubt, since they made it through all the tests their respective sports use, but in reality, we can't know, because the testing can't keep up with the cheating. Sad but true.
The IAAF officials know this - they realize that they can't pick up all the new doping with the current tests - and another commenter mentioned use of testosterone directly in doping, so this may be another way of determining whether her newly-improved times were a natural miracle, or a result of more nefarious behavior.
While the marketing of athletes is constructed, isn't it sort of logically inevitable that athletes' bodies are going to veer towards either perfect (here, "sexy") or freakish (here, "manly" although for men this can be things like 350lb NFL lineman or 7'1'' NBA centers) because of the very nature of playing competitive sports at the highest level? The intense training leads towards "sexy" bodies in sports like tennis or volleyball, while the benefits of being as physically masculine as possible while still being considered a woman (which I mean in the Caster Semanya/East German Olympic team way, not in the "every woman in the WNBA is a dyke" one) in sports like track or swimming?
Even if we remove or even out aspects between the sexes that are purely constructed (like say, women no longer feeling like they need to wear makeup while competing or men wearing similarly skimpy bathing suits), sex can and still be marketed. Just because now say, Maria Sharapova is wearing baggy shorts and a polo shirt while competing doesn't make her tennis-toned body less spectacular than it was when she was wearing skirts.
@JP Meyer: You don't see nearly as many sexy photos of lesser known male athletes as you do lesser known female athletes. Competitive athletes tend to have great bodies, but the female athletes are much more sexualized by the media. I don't think I've ever seen a shirtless paparazzi photo of Eli Manning, but I've sure seen paparazzi shots of Maria Sharapova at the beach.
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Actually, I don't really see what's "sexist" about this ad. They're implying that vaginas are good. And/or tasty. And/or appealing in their natural, hairy state. I would understand if Bitch had a policy against sex/sexuality in advertising in general, or against using slang words for genitalia, but I think you have to really reach to see this as "against [their] mission statement to be anti-sexist."
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The picture would have to be really big, or the woman would have to be contorted into a really weird position, to be able to see the details of the underwear AND her face. #badvertising
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But I am really offended by the idea that I should care what eyeliner competitive female surfers wear. No one expects me to care how Tom Brady accentuates his shoulders in his fashion choices.
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What bothers me is when commentators say things like, "She must be thinking about her little girl right now" or "She's doing this for moms everywhere!" There's this weird assumption that athletes who are also mothers are driven by their children, whereas nobody ever says that about male athletes who are also fathers. It's just treated in a way that's really different.
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For the last time, the IAAF did not request that she be tested solely because she "looks like a man," although she does, undeniably.
The sex identification test -- a battery of examinations -- was requested after several red flags:
Well before she competed in Berlin, her testosterone test showed that she had three times the normal level of testosterone in her system. She also showed a highly unusual degree of improvement in a very short time. There also was at least one protest pursuant to the IAAF's rules, which originated in her native South Africa.
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Problem is, most of the dopers are ahead of the tests. Semenya, from what I heard, passed her drug test. So did Armstrong, Bolt, and Phelps. Are they juicin' it up? I don't know - if we keep their old pee in a fridge somewhere, maybe ten years from now we can test it and find out. Today, we give them the benefit of the doubt, since they made it through all the tests their respective sports use, but in reality, we can't know, because the testing can't keep up with the cheating. Sad but true.
The IAAF officials know this - they realize that they can't pick up all the new doping with the current tests - and another commenter mentioned use of testosterone directly in doping, so this may be another way of determining whether her newly-improved times were a natural miracle, or a result of more nefarious behavior.
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Even if we remove or even out aspects between the sexes that are purely constructed (like say, women no longer feeling like they need to wear makeup while competing or men wearing similarly skimpy bathing suits), sex can and still be marketed. Just because now say, Maria Sharapova is wearing baggy shorts and a polo shirt while competing doesn't make her tennis-toned body less spectacular than it was when she was wearing skirts.
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