Quite honestly, hearing the words "teacher" and "caught", and "sex", in the same sentence, I can only feel relief on realizing that it's between adults.
Also, I laughed really hard when I read the first sentence of the steak-throwing. And then I just got sad reading the rest of it.
I went to that high school, and one of those women was my teacher for two years. This really does not surprise me at all. Nor do I feel that bad for her. She always had some major boundary issues. I'm kind of surprised she didn't get in trouble for something before this
@colormeroutine: I grew up by that school! (but didn't end up going there). Sort of odd to say Brooklyn Pride for a post about a sex-escandalo but there we have it. Brooklyn pride indeed. It's just rare to read about that part of Brooklyn other than when cricket players get hit by lightning in Marine Park. True story.
Would the story about the teachers have been written if it were a heterosexual couple? I doubt it would have been written in the style it was - talking about their tattoos, interviewing 16-year-olds to find out if their teachers were "sexy."
I guess the bigger question is if the teachers would have been dismissed if they were a hetero couple.
@LoSpaz: Its the Daily News so, well, it would still be tabloidish even if they were hetero. But probably not as much as it is with two "good-looking" young women.
And I agree with Ms. Skittles. They were undressing in a classroom and that is all it should take.
@LoSpaz: I think they would have been dismissed if they were heterosexual. Undressing and/or engaging in sexual activity on school grounds is a no-no, and doing it while there are students in the building adds another degree of inappropriateness to the mix.
@LoSpaz: Oh, it definitely wouldn't have. That would be a 'they're damaging our youth' kind of story, not 'lolz lesbians.'
Though I initially misread it as "getting ready during a talent show" and was very confused. Wouldn't it make sense for them to be changing for a show or whatever? But the "international language of love" line set me straight.
@LoSpaz: The story would probably have been written differently, but I'm pretty sure that hetero teachers would have been dismissed. Kids were in the building and if a janitor found them, kids could have as well.
Also-I think a teacher would have been dismissed if they were masturbating in an abandoned classroom.
@Lymed: You are both right about the inappropriate behavior around students. I was just so taken aback by the tone of the story. I shouldn't be but I am.
@thecameralovesyou: I love this. My husband randomly says this all the time. But seriously, it seems to me that they were probably changing in the classroom for a skit or something, as someone upthread said. They must be desperate for stories.
Okay, the malpractice case? I was sitting here all judgmental and "oh cry me a river, you were drinking underage passed out you weenie...OH HOLY SHIT AMPUTATED BOTH LEGS?!"
@Zombie Ms. Skittles: Yeah, that's going in my "terrify the young'uns" file for sure. Don't drink until you're legal, you could lose both of your legs! .... also, aaaagh!
@la.donna.pietra: Right! Whatever happened to the good old days when kids would wait until their twenty-first birthday to do crazy, potentially deadly shit with alcohol?
Something tells me this lady will have a rather low-key birthday next year. I hope.
@Dauphine: Yeah, I thought about her when I was reading this article. I understand that some ERs are dangerously understaffed, and that's a huge problem, but someone should have noticed that she was passed out and in an unsafe position.
@NellMood: She was not sitting on her legs at the hospital.. she was at home when that happened and was eventually found by her sister and then taken to the hospital by ambulance. This article has more detail: [www.pittsburghlive.com]
@la.donna.pietra: I had the same reaction, but if you read the article, she was passed out somewhere (not the emergency room) alone for 12 hours with her legs under her (a relative found her). She is suing the hospital because when she came in with complaints of pain in her legs (she was still apparently very drunk) they did not correctly diagnose her in time.
@yvanehtnioj: I was thinking the same thing, but suddenly I'm really glad for my overactive drunk bladder; it has been known to wake me from some really funky sleeping positions at all hours of the night for a little jog to the bathroom.
@warhol's gnarwol: It's not so much my bladder, but if I get seriously drunk I just cannot get a good sleep going. I'll wake up about 4.25 hours later all cranky and determined never to drink so much again. So, that's lucky.
@yvanehtnioj: Me too! I'm an old biddy now, but back in the day (i.e. university), whenever I got really wasted I would be up at the crack of dawn the next day. It really sucked.
@yvanehtnioj: That happens to me too and it sucks! I can go to bed at 4am and still wake up at 8. But I guess now I should be thankful that I won't need my legs amputated.
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I felt a hand on my breast. And I threw my right hook. It's a punch that requires you be close to your target, and doesn't take much room to hit properly.
Cattle prods can be had via mail order for less than $50.
If the cops can't do anything about some motherfucker whacking off on me, they have no excuse for doing something about me using a couple jillion volts on his taint.
My best friend got followed off a subway in Brooklyn after my birthday party in Manhattan. It's 3 o'clock in the morning, she's a little tipsy and she is listening to her ipod. She could sense someone close behind her. She turns around to a man who pushes her against the wall next to her house. Luckily she had a cigarette in her hand and she burned him in the face. He kept grabbing at her until two men came and grabbed the attacker. They held him until she got in her house, then let him go. He walked away, back to the subway, and back for another R train ride to find someone else.
@stopalyssatime: I don't smoke, but I'm going to carry a lit cigarette with me while walking alone now, although I do use Wolverine-quality key claws already.
I always feel like these are the same guys who sit next to you and then spread their legs really wide, like the family jewels are the size of basketballs. When I confronted one dude over that, he said, "I'm fine like I am." Um, no, asshole, you're not, you only paid one fair and you're encroaching on my space. Either pay the fare for me, Tweedledum, and Tweedledee down there, or move the fuck over.
And I want to punch those guys and these guys, too.
@Ginmar Rienne: I think this was discussed on a previous thread, and one commenter said she finally yelled at the two leg-spreading jerks on either side of her on a flight that her cunt needed some air, too. It freaked them both out so much they closed their legs.
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I kind of wish street harassers had a message board that I could snoop on. I feel like I understand the motives of car thieves, vandals, bank robbers, shoplifters and even some murderers. But street harassers? WTF? Who taught them that hissing and kissing sounds attract women? What do they think will happen when they comment on my ass or honk at me? Do they leave the house thinking, "I'm going to get an erection and rub it on some lady's thigh"? Do they observe long enough to make sure their victim isn't accompanied by a man? Or have they ever screwed up and bothered a woman that had a boyfriend/husband present who kicked their ass?
I don't live in a city with a subway, but I do walk everywhere and had been subject to street harassment every day. I have found it to have decreased dramatically since I adopted an 80-pound dog who accompanies me around the neighborhood.
@Gumbina80: Or else when they make the kissing or whistling sounds you can do what I do and look at your dog and say "They must me doing that for your cause I KNOW they aren't doing that to me."
@district of confusion: "You wanna get on my leash baby? OK, I'll tie you up, then light you on fire, fuckface. It will be SO HOT."
People avoid the crazy lady.
@Gumbina80: I work in prosecution of sex crimes, and keeping up with message boards for "johns" (men who pick up street prostitutes) were part of my job at one point. It was that an eye-opening experience to read what is actually going through their mind when they look at women like that. And the answer seems to be that yea, they are pretty much thinking all women everywhere are ready and willing to accomodate their sexual needs. The only reason johns see for some of them saying "no" is that they haven't offered money.
@Habibiti: I was going to recommend Googling 'escort review board' then checking out the forums about streetwalkers and 'dating.' Occasionally scary stuff.
A couple of years ago, I read a totally awesome article about groping on the London Tube. It featured a woman who grabbed the guy's hand, held it up, and shouted, "Does this belong to anyone? It seems to have gotten attached to my bum!" as the owner of the hand blushed in shame.
Oh also, this reminds me of a great article I read once about Megan's Law - it was about this guy who was arrested for flashing. He was a little slow and he said that he thought if he flashed a woman she might be turned on and then want to date him. The article went on to say that this man had never been on a date, let alone have a girlfriend.
Funny story, but the kind of sad reality is some of the pervs we're talking about might actually be thinking the same thing - someone will get turned on and maybe I can have sex.
@wooden_shoes: Only if they have head injuries. They might claim this as an excuse, but guys who do this get off on doing shit against womens' wishes, not in the hope that women will like them. Guys who do this, like guys who yell out, "NICE TITS!" are not guys looking for a date.
Seriously, that excuse has pissed me off since boys in grade school would do things that would count as sexual assault and everybody would say, "He just likes you!"
Yeah, you know what? IF A MAN LIKES ME, HE CAN BE NICE TO ME! How fucking hard is that? Is "Please", "Thank you," and "Good morning" such a chore that he needs a nap and a reward later?
@wooden_shoes: I suspect the logic goes something like: "Gee, I'd sure love it if random women got naked in front of me. I bet they feel the same way!" *drops trou*
@Ginmar Rienne: The weird thing is that, if these people are so deluded about what half of the world's population feels and wants, they probably shouldn't be out in public at all. But no one ever argues that. It's just a miscomunication. You can't blame them.
@Pizza!Pizza!Pizza!: They just don't care what half the world's population wants, that's the thing. And, yeah, I argue that all the time. Wait, what? You can't understand women? Sounds dangerous! Let's lock your ass up.
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@Ginmar Rienne: Hm, actually? I wasn't saying it was an excuse, I was saying that the cognitive processes at work within these men might be bringing them to this conclusion.
Also I would say that boys are mean to girls they like when they are in elementary school. This continues into adulthood a lot of the time. Stupid? probably. Do we know how to stop it? Not really.
It seems clear these per(v)ps have very little brainpower in the "if-then" department.
With the modern prevalence of tasers and the ease of fist-to-genital contact, these guys are, no pun intended, really taking their lives into their own hands.
@AndPreciousLittleofThat: Actually I think these guys know that there is a very slim chance they will be physically harmed when they do this. They rely on their victims being too scared, surprised, and socially conditioned not to cause a ruckus to defend themselves.
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And I agree with Ms. Skittles. They were undressing in a classroom and that is all it should take.
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Though I initially misread it as "getting ready during a talent show" and was very confused. Wouldn't it make sense for them to be changing for a show or whatever? But the "international language of love" line set me straight.
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Also-I think a teacher would have been dismissed if they were masturbating in an abandoned classroom.
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Something tells me this lady will have a rather low-key birthday next year. I hope.
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I felt a hand on my breast. And I threw my right hook. It's a punch that requires you be close to your target, and doesn't take much room to hit properly.
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If the cops can't do anything about some motherfucker whacking off on me, they have no excuse for doing something about me using a couple jillion volts on his taint.
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And I want to punch those guys and these guys, too.
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Unknown commenter, whoever you are, know that you are my hero.
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I don't live in a city with a subway, but I do walk everywhere and had been subject to street harassment every day. I have found it to have decreased dramatically since I adopted an 80-pound dog who accompanies me around the neighborhood.
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Funny story, but the kind of sad reality is some of the pervs we're talking about might actually be thinking the same thing - someone will get turned on and maybe I can have sex.
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Seriously, that excuse has pissed me off since boys in grade school would do things that would count as sexual assault and everybody would say, "He just likes you!"
Yeah, you know what? IF A MAN LIKES ME, HE CAN BE NICE TO ME! How fucking hard is that? Is "Please", "Thank you," and "Good morning" such a chore that he needs a nap and a reward later?
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@Ginmar Rienne: Hm, actually? I wasn't saying it was an excuse, I was saying that the cognitive processes at work within these men might be bringing them to this conclusion.
Also I would say that boys are mean to girls they like when they are in elementary school. This continues into adulthood a lot of the time. Stupid? probably. Do we know how to stop it? Not really.
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With the modern prevalence of tasers and the ease of fist-to-genital contact, these guys are, no pun intended, really taking their lives into their own hands.
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