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PilgrimSoul
07/14/09

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Things like "biological parenthood" ought not to be the subject of internet commenting referenda, IMHO.

But that's just me.
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PilgrimSoul
07/14/09

@PilgrimSoul: Especially when there's race involved, so that everyone can just not say whatever dumbass shit comes into their heads.

(Note: I am also guilty of making dumbass comments on every subject. But seriously, like ellaesther said: think of the children guys. and cut that shit out.)
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hollygirl
07/01/09

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I have two cousins with a white mom and a black dad, and based on their complexions, etc. I've alway thought there's no way Michael jackson's kids have his DNA-
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PipPipCheerio
07/01/09

@hollygirl: Genetic material combines really differently from individual to individual. I've known kids with parents of different ethnicities whose skin tones and features ranged all over the place.
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doodley is not amused
06/30/09

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Several sources say the real father of Michael Jackson's oldest children, Prince and Paris, is Arnold Klein, Jackson's dermatologist and Debbie Rowe's former boss.

Actually, Michael Jackson is their "real father" (a term I -- and most adoptive parents -- truly abhor). The question of who is their biological father is an entirely different issue. Parent = the person who raises a child. Biological parent = the person who contributes genetic material to the child. The mere fact that a person does not sire/conceive a child does not make them an "unreal" parent.
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Breamworthy
06/30/09

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If Lee Majors reconnected with Farrah and still cared about her as a friend, how come he had to get updates on her condition from other people???
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linnyt is a walking cliché
06/30/09

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i could have sworn that Neverland was sold
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BettieCastle
06/30/09

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I might eat my words later but I saw a few of the only publicized non-masked pictures of the kids and The eldest and youngest in my opinion resemble Michael through the eyes and nose. There's one that Prince is touching Michael's hand and the hands look exactly alike. And they're not exactly "white looking either." I think people are under the impression that Michael was like this ebony black which wasn't the case... I am of Mexican decent but my Mother is very light and my Father is very very dark and my skin is pretty light, so much so that people don't believe it when I say I am Mexican, they expect this Aztec looking chick or something, they think I'm lying. My brother on the other hand is dark like my Dad... You know, I'm just saying Genes and DNA are weird...
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lonewolfer: lusty trollop
06/30/09

@BettieCastle: The youngest one has straight blonde hair. That's weird, no?
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bluebears
06/30/09

@BettieCastle: ok this is a reductive conversation (not accusing you, everyone including me is indulging in it) but Michael in his original state looked absolutely NOTHING like that child. I'm not talking about skin tone, I'm talking about features. Yes, they could be mixed but those kids are so euro looking. pin straight hair? just to begin with.
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Breamworthy
06/30/09

@bluebears: Honestly, I think MJ chose a sperm donor with a specific appearance in the hopes that the kids would look like MJ now (well, then), which obviously they wouldn't if he was their real father since plastic surgery isn't hereditary.
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Breamworthy
06/30/09

@Breamworthy: and I should say "biological father", not "real father" - he was certainly their father, whether they shared his DNA or not.
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Skellatrix
07/01/09

@lonewolfer: I'm preeeeetty sure his hair is dyed. And I thought it was the older one?
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ellaesther
06/30/09

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I will now say this with all, deepest sincerity:

Will no one, I mean NO ONE, think of the children?!

Those poor kids. Jesus Fuck.
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06/30/09

@ellaesther: I feel you.
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kookla
06/30/09

@ellaesther: I feel as protective of them as Princess Diana's boys. Sort of makes sense why he made them wear masks. Now no one is around to shield them from Joe Jackson's exploitation.
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clevernamehere
06/30/09

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There are many reasons I don't think I could ever be a surrogate mother, but pretty high on the list is having the parents in the delivery room (however the babies come out). I know its a huge moment for them, but I would want my privacy. Its like, "You getting a baby! Do you need to see my internal organs too?"
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kookla
06/30/09

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Never understood it before, but I can now understand why Michael tried to maintain his children's anonymity. It's too bad there is no one around to protect them from exploitation now.
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DaisyGamble
06/30/09

@kookla: wait, what? you mean the ever respectable Joe Jackson won't protect those children?
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PrarieMuffin
06/30/09

@kookla: Though we and the media loved to deride Michael for masking his kids, the anonymity it provided was probably the best gift he could ever give them. Now that's all down the tubes; I feel horrible for the possibility of them being hounded by the press or winding up with Joe.

And mark my words: if Joe ends up with custody of those kids, they will release an album within 15 months. And I will vomit.
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kookla
06/30/09

@DaisyGamble: That's exactly who I was talking about!!

@PrarieMuffin: It's frightening to see their future through Joes eyes. Breakout band of 2010? The Jackson 3.
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Gumbina80
06/30/09

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There is something creepy yet hilarious about those poor lil' kids in the Spiderman masks.

Jackson's friends, associates, family and fans talk a lot about how Michael "couldn't" do normal things and wasn't "allowed" to lead a normal life because "they" wouldn't let him. Who is this "they" who would follow Michael around everywhere? Cheering for him when he dangled his baby from a balcony? I'm pretty sure "they" are not people like me, who couldn't give two shits about the guy. I'm pretty sure it's the obsessed fan base who are now suicidal over his death. The people who are now inconsolable and suicidal over Michael's death WERE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
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Maritsa
06/30/09

@Gumbina80: That's a good point. Also, the press as well - they had to be a big part of it.

@EKane: NPR played a clip from a recent press conference for the London shows, and I was startled at his real voice.

@ellaesther: Yeah. I couldn't care less about MJ, I think he did the stuff he was accused of, but I feel for his kids. His other family, with few exceptions, seemed to be leeches who screwed him up, but those kids...my heart hurts for them. I just hope they find a good stable home. Janet?
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Dodgergirl
06/30/09

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Also, I had heard rumblings that David Tennant might come do Hamlet in New York, and I am seriously bummed it's going to be Jude Law instead. At least the Daivd Tennant/Patrick Stewart one will be televised...
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brendastarlet is on it
06/30/09

@Dodgergirl: the David Tennant version got rave reviews, and this one got okay reviews. But Jude Law is a movie star, where David Tennant is an actor.
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hildy
06/30/09

@Dodgergirl: It will? When? I had the amazing luck of seeing it at Stratford-Upon-Avon and would love to have a recorded copy of it.
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Rooo sez BISH PLZ
06/30/09

@Dodgergirl: Aw man. That's like asking Dustin Diamond to do John Turturro's part.

In anything.
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Dodgergirl
06/30/09

@hildy: I am so incredibly jealous of you. Pretty vague information on it right now but, it should air on BBC 2 sometimes in late 2009 and on PBS sometime in 2010. Hopefully very early in 2010.
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A Small Turnip
06/30/09

@Dodgergirl: @apocalypse-nowish: I think Law's a frankly distasteful man, so it pains me to admit that he's a hell of an actor. I've seen him in three different plays here in London, and he was outstanding in them. His Dr. Faustus still gives me the chills when I think about it.

With a great director and the right editing, almost anyone can give a good performance in a film. But on stage, you just can't fake it. There's no protection from the audience; either you have it or you don't. Jude Law has it, in spades.
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Dodgergirl
06/30/09

@ASmallTurnip: Yeah, I don't have a particular opinion about Jude Law's acting, as I have seen him in very little. I just really adore David Tennant, and I've heard he was amazing in Hamlet. I was hoping he'd get some work over here and I could save up my money and trek over to New York to see him.
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A Small Turnip
07/01/09

@Dodgergirl: Oh, fair enough! I do love me some Tennant, so I absolutely understand your disappointment. But he's worked in London theatre for aaaages, so don't lost hope! If his Hamlet doesn't make it to Broadway, there's no doubt that another production of his will. Keep saving those pennies, girl.
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gherkinfiend
06/30/09

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I just hope someone is shielding these kids from all the rumour and gossip about their paternity. Even if MJ wasn't the biological father, he has been their father all their lives and they are grieving quite enough already.
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Dodgergirl
06/30/09

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"The following stars have been invited to joint the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences"

If we're talking about Seth Rogen and James Franco, that joint was not used for Academy business.

(seriously, that is one hilarious typo, given a few of the stars invited this year)
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Rooo sez BISH PLZ
06/30/09

@Dodgergirl: *snorfle*

I see what you did thar.
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GirlFailer
06/30/09

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His body will be put on public display? This deserves a hearty WHAT THE FUCK?
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BluebellaElliot
06/30/09

@GirlSailor: I had to read that twice. It just keeps getting worse, and I think I kind of expected it would, but this is just awful.
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katie.scarlett.o'hara
06/30/09

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Yay for one more hour of Lost!

I don't know what I'm going to do with myself when that show ends. :(
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ClementinedeWinter
06/30/09

@katie.scarlett.o'hara: I plan on buying Season 1, 2, 3, 5, & 6, then having a Lost marathon twice a year for the rest of my life.
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katie.scarlett.o'hara
06/30/09

@ClementinedeWinter: I want to wait until the complete 6-season box set comes out, but I am so tempted every time I see the individual seasons at Target. They were on sale last week! Gah!
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