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    12/01/09

    In reply to Closing Statements Heard In Knox Trial • Going Rogue: Over One Million Served
    Jacob Zuma also claimed that he didn't catch HIV from a woman because he showered afterwards.
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    12/01/09

    In reply to Closing Statements Heard In Knox Trial • Going Rogue: Over One Million Served
    Asma Hanif = teh awesome. Wonderful points and a great cause. Hooray!
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    12/01/09

    In reply to Closing Statements Heard In Knox Trial • Going Rogue: Over One Million Served
    [www.overcompensating.com]
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    12/01/09

    In reply to Closing Statements Heard In Knox Trial • Going Rogue: Over One Million Served
    Hooray DC! One more vote and then it's off to the mayor for signature.

    Passed by a vote of 11-2. Should be noted that Marion Barry was a dissenting vote. I will be so happy to see that man disappear from public life.

    Now Archdiocese-- don't be assholes and withdraw your social services. The people still need the support you provide.
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    Image of Zombies make the heart grow fonder Zombies make the heart grow fonder
    12/01/09

    @curiousgeorgiana: YAY! You know, I would love to see a Jezebel article discussing race relations and gay marriage. I say this because the two dissenting votes here in D.C. were cast by representatives from minority areas (7 and 8) who said that they were pushed by ministers and their constituents to vote against it.

    I believe there was some talk about it when Prop 8 passed but I don't remember whether there was a real discussion about it. Correct me if I am wrong.
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    12/01/09

    @curiousgeorgiana: i know marion barry is such an embarassing thing about dc that everyone knows about and i wish we could keep it to ourselves.
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    Image of RunawayPancake RunawayPancake
    12/01/09

    @Zombies make the heart grow fonder: Here's an article from today's WaPo that talks about how religious and generational influences divide DC African-Americans on the gay marriage issue and whether its worthy of comparison to the civil rights movement: [www.washingtonpost.com]
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    12/01/09

    @Zombies make the heart grow fonder: One Jez post dealt with the issue that I remember-- maybe more?

    [jezebel.com]
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    12/01/09

    @tobesthewonderdog: His statement directed at gay and lesbian residents of DC:

    "It's not fair to make this one issue a litmus test as to one's commitment to human rights, to justice, and I resent those who would make it a litmus test."

    -Marion Barry
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    12/01/09

    @curiousgeorgiana: litmus test makers set him up!
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    11/30/09

    In reply to The GOP Still Struggling To Find Its Voice
    Do you know who I want to see interview Palin? Zach Galifianakis. Get thee to Between Two Ferns, Sarah!
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    Image of J.D.Regent J.D.Regent
    11/30/09

    In reply to Palin Populism Is Just Another Kind Of Elitism
    I'm just confused about how Hawaii is less glamorous than Northern Idaho, the next place she went to college.
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    Image of GoldenRatioφ (aka -girl11) GoldenRatioφ (aka -girl11)
    12/01/09

    @J.D.Regent: White people = glamorous.

    EDIT: Oops, just clicked all discussions and noticed five commenters already gave this reply to JDRegents "rhetorical comment." Damn two-tier system.
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    11/30/09

    In reply to Book Teaches Kids To Read, Hate Palin-Bashing Liberals
    Gettin emi young?

    Well. I see someone on Ms. Palin's staff is up on both their Huxley reading and their brand management lessons from Mattel.
    *shudder*
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    11/30/09

    @Rooo sez BISH PLZ: I'm an Emi, so I feel compelled to say that they didn't get me young or old.
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    11/30/09

    @Ri_L: Haha. That was a typo; I decided against the back to back apostrophes for slang dialect and am sleep deprived.
    Not only does it serve me right, but I'm greatly relieved to know there's a section of the populace that's completely immune. Let's all be Emis!
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    11/30/09

    In reply to Book Teaches Kids To Read, Hate Palin-Bashing Liberals
    I can't get worked about that book after seeing this one recently [littledemocrats.net]

    At least the crazy Republican book lets a lady be governor, the crazy Democrat book is strangely gendered (Mommy makes you share your toys, just like the Democrats while Daddy does nothing in his version).
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    11/30/09

    In reply to Book Teaches Kids To Read, Hate Palin-Bashing Liberals
    Interesting choice to make her a light skinned black woman.
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    Image of Lady Skittlehattington Lady Skittlehattington
    11/30/09

    In reply to Book Teaches Kids To Read, Hate Palin-Bashing Liberals
    When I worked in children's book publishing, this is one of the manuscripts I would have dropped into the trash without sending a form rejection.
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    11/30/09

    In reply to Book Teaches Kids To Read, Hate Palin-Bashing Liberals
    Because kids who read picture books have a really good understanding of journalism, political campaigns, capitalist business principles and tax policy.
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    11/30/09

    In reply to Palin Populism Is Just Another Kind Of Elitism
    At the risk of invoking Godwin's Law....

    I read WWII books all the time, and the more I read from the German perspective, the more it freaks me out. Hitler believed Prussians were elitist, with their fancy military schools, and their fancy accents. Bavarians were the real Germans, who lived close to the land, didn't have fancy educations, and talked like real people talk. I'm pretty sure Palin isn't the next Hitler, but she has some of his talking points down pat.
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    12/01/09

    @Dictator for Life: It's impossible to ignore the similarities to the "real Americans" rhetoric that's come about. It should frighten us.
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    11/30/09

    In reply to Book Teaches Kids To Read, Hate Palin-Bashing Liberals
    My next effort, and first attempt at writing for children, will be entitled:

    "WTF Mom! The Asshole Bigots Next Door Keep Trying To Give Me Literature And Make Me Eat Venison! Can We Move?!"
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    11/30/09

    In reply to Palin Populism Is Just Another Kind Of Elitism
    Its also strange though to me that liberals, Democrats and the like are not understanding that there is a fear of change brewing in this country, which to be honest, I can understand. For a 70 year old person, who lives in a small suburb somewhere, I can imagine that watching this country evolve into what it is, with civil rights, technology, etc could be "scary". And I would hope that we could all in some way understand that and then see how to help people understand the necessity of change. I think that somehow we have just expected people to get it and what has occurred instead is the pandering to people who are slightly confused by said change and they have now become bait for conservatives and the scheisters like Beck and Limbaugh.
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    Image of GoldenRatioφ (aka -girl11) GoldenRatioφ (aka -girl11)
    12/01/09

    @ArtfulSlinger: Eh, in fairness these are some of the same people who may have learned in school that President Truman was advocating for healthcare reforms, saw their public schools and places desegregated, lived through the Civil Rights era of the '60's and have adjusted to amazing growth in technological innovations over their lives. Obviously society is more progressive now than it was back in 1940, but if you could measure the rate at which it's "progressing," I don't think things are changing more quickly than they used to. And for all the changes that were made, there were fights, and who do you think was fighting them?

    I was raised by my white grandparents in a small suburb of a Rust Belt city. They are in their early 70's and shoot off forwards to me containing links to YouTube videos of various TeaParty idiots dressed in "Founding Father" costumes. My grandma demands to know where Obama's birth certificate is, and my grandpa works himself into an apoplectic rage every time his tax dollars go to any sort of social program, despite the fact that he has a brother and a daughter who owe their lives to disability and medicaid/medicare(?) benefits.

    My grandma does complain that America is no longer great, and reminisces about how simple things were in the 50's. When I asked her about segregated schools though, her reply is: "well, we live up North, and that was in the South, so that wasn't really our problem, it didn't really involve me." Of course, it was up north too, and my newlywed grandparents fled to the 'burbs as it was happening. And when I mentioned seeing Gloria Steinem on Oprah, interested to hear my Grandma's impressions of the earlier feminist movement she told me "Gloria Steinem was unattractive, and ugly people say ugly and vulgar things."

    So, I think perhaps you are being too charitable and maybe even paternalistic regarding at least the senior citizens who listen to Limbaugh, and consider themselves the "real Americans." Anna was right, populism among "salt of the earth" -- (my grandma's words) folks, and "fear of change" has been used by some of these older, whiter people before.

    P.S. My response wasn't really long because I was ranty at you, but rather at my grandparents. I occasionally use Jezebel as free therapy. Sorry.
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    Image of LucilleMcGillicuddy LucilleMcGillicuddy
    11/30/09

    In reply to Book Teaches Kids To Read, Hate Palin-Bashing Liberals
    I just sustained a minor concussion from head-desking.

    what american dream? they are crushing several of MY american dreams - the separation of church and state, my reproductive rights, racial and gender equality, etc.
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