Also, the thing is -- we actually have NO IDEA who he is dating... sure, he has his picture taken with a gal on the back of his motorcyle, but he could easily have something going on that we know nothing about (and not the gay hairdresser thing mentioned earlier).
I actually heard he was seeing a v smart human rights activist.
He has that villa in Italy and can just stash her in there...
And as an aside, I know his parents and have met him a few times and have never heard that he was gay. We also have several friends in common in H'wood. But the gay thing? I remember "they" also said it about George Stephanopolous and JFK, Jr...
One more thought- in terms of psychological development, he seems kind of ...latency age to me- really wants to hang out with other boys doing fun stuff like building forts and blowing stuff up. women are reduced to a decorative, marginalized sector of this life.
He's been quite clear in the press about his desire never to marry again, and his lack of interest in children; read between the lines- its all about George. Fine, he's honest about it. The women he's been choosing seem not to mind that he'll probably never get serious about them...versus someone who has developed a career and is accomplished who might expect more? Not implying that women in less status-y jobs don;t have the RIGHT to expect more, but he might be improving his odds of low-drama with much younger, possibly immature, pre-self-actualized women who will not demand self-hood in a relationship.
Do we all have to date people exactly as professionally successful as ourselves now? If so, for someone like George Clooney, that leaves him with a pretty small pool of people.
To me, choosing to date people who aren't in the public eye the way he is seems a pretty sensible move - less gossip, fewer paps, etc etc. Of course, as a less cynical person than me might say, maybe he just happened to really like, or at least be attracted to, all these women? Stranger things have happened...
i can't see if anyone's mentioned this yet because the *#@& comments are acting up, but #6, Krista Allen, is ot just some t-shirt shilling beauty - she's BILLIE from Days Of Our Lives from 1996-2000!!!
I love these signs of democracy and its discontents.
If you think that education and working hard and succeeding at something important matters more than good looks, then yes, you are going to think that a woman lawyer or doctor deserves more respect than a model or a waitress.
Again, I really don't give a damn who he dates. I was concerned when the French law student left her studies, but as someone else said, she couldn't have been terribly dedicated.
"why he's established a pattern of dating women much less professionally successful than himself"
Because that's 99.99999999999999999% of the general population? Isn't that a totally ridiculous standard? That's kind of analogous to asking, "Why would Donald Trump only date women who had less money?"
@holly217: Yeah but Donald Trump is an avowed douche. I suppose one hopes that lefty, decent-film-making, activist George Clooney might appreciate a wider variety of female companion, even as a beard.
@J.D.Regent: But that's exactly my point. The statistical reality is that if Clooney were to consciously look for women as or more "successful" than himself, he'd be ruling out a vast majority of women, thereby drastically reducing his chance of "appreciat[ing] a wide variety of female companion[s]." No?
I don't feel like I know him well enough to analyze his dating habits, but it's hard not to notice he has a physical type. They all have very similar nose/eye areas and smiles!
Like almost every one else who commented below me, I have to say that I really disliked the classicism inherent in this piece.
Asking "Why doesn't Clooney date women who have achieved the same stature in similarly high powered fields such as law, medicine, or even a fellow hollywoodite? Is it because he is intimidated by them?"
It is another thing altogether for Jez to seemingly agree to the idea that a model, a waitress, a whatever is not WORTHY of a George Clooney.
It's gross.
No one asked why Julia Roberts married an unknown camerman. It was all, awww she is so down to earth, she wants a non-Hollywood REAL guy. That's so cool!
@lucystrawberry: Tier 2 is the new black: Oh please. Danny Moder has a job beyond "looking hot." The issue here isn't class. I don't think anyone would say he were "dating down" if he dated a hot nurse, then a hot camerawoman, then a hot lawyer, then a hot cocktail waitress. But when your dating pattern involves dating lady after lady whose only seeming job qualification is looking pretty (and actually looking a lot like the previous lady), then yeah, it's a little weird.
@BinderClip: Again, Jesus, why are you assuming that every one of these women's jobs "requires" them to look pretty? You're reducing them to their looks, and it's not right.
I am really surprised (or....not, maybe) by some of the comments I am seeing in this thread. I don't really know where to start.
No. 1 - He is dating women whose sole purpose, given their professions, is to look attractive.
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Seriously? You could say that about a gazillion professions. No one would be complaining that he only dates attractive women if they all had their advanced degrees.
No. 2 - These women *are*, professionally, less successful.
The French woman was a teacher before meeting Clooney, and Renee Z has an Oscar. All seem to be making money and getting by, sounds pretty damn good to me.
No. 3 - These partnerships are not equal.
Do you know him personally? Them? No? Alright, then I will continue to assume I don't know anything about them or their relationships, you go right ahead and continue to make assumptions.
No. 4 - These women diminish the *real* but perhaps not young or attractive successful women.
Just because Clooney does not seem to value women in white collar/academic/professional jobs? Okay.
No. 5 - This is more about him, not them.
It sure doesn't seem that way, given some of the things I am reading.
No. 6 - He is rich/powerful, they are hot, it's an exchange.
This I agree with on the whole, or as a common theme in relationships, but again, I am not prepared to make that assumption in this case.
No. 7 - Some of the women have taken advantage of "doors" that have opened up from dating him.
@Penny: Thank you for being so eloquent, and for expressing my exact sentiments. I fail to see how this is our business, or, indeed, how we are at all equipped to judge his relationships without knowing him personally.
I get that it's interesting to take a look at the pattern, but I can't really do much but shrug about it.
@queenieinmanhattan: You know, I read this article as being written in the spirit of cultural criticism. Of course we can't do a thing about Clooney's relationships, nor should we want to. But we can notice when a prominent man who cultivates a thoughtful, reflective image seems mainly to date women who are in jobs where their most important attribute is being attractive, and who are (some would argue, some are arguing) in a subservient power relationship to him.
I wish Macloserboy was still around; I have finally given up the ghost of Clooney being gay. I was so convinced. Wishful thinking. I know SO many women I would fix him up with, just as conventionally beautiful as these cocktail waitresses but who could match him on his politics, his global cosmopolitanism, and his art. Call me when you get bored with this George.
A friend recently made a similar comment about a successful man we know who only "dates down". She, now a doctor, but with blue collar roots expressed the same conflict I'm seeing here - on one hand, she knows her comment was classist and knows firsthand from her own family that not being professionally successful does not mean you are stupid.
On the other hand, she's ambitious, talented and has done extremely well for herself. It bothers her that her male peers don't admire those qualities in her the way she admires those qualities in them - generally, dudes don't get creamy over a woman's accomplishments. Like this man she was talking about, Clooney's whole deal is that he is "intellectual, politically aware" actor guy - men like that are "supposed" to be interested in women like themselves, not have the same tastes as your more typical modelizers. This is all besides the point - people like what they like - but I can see where both sides are coming from.
To all who are annoyed at the phrase "dating down" - there is a very common occurrence at colleges (at least mine) where very intelligent men would wind up dating women who were, well, not. And it was also not uncommon for men to be uncomfortable when they were told that their girlfriends were smarter than them.
It is not that these women are not smart or kind or anything, but when it becomes a pattern, it can indicate the sort of personality that doesn't appreciate an equal partnership, or being challenged by a partner, or even *gasp* a more successful partner. It's a comment on Clooney's character, not theirs.
@Norton: exactly. i have no doubt these women are plenty smart and have their own destiny in life. i just don't think that is why george clooney is consistently picking brunette clone hotbots.
At first my hackles got raised by the post for the reasons a bunch of people are mentioning here, but I think the point is that for someone so clearly intelligent and politically motivated, his dating choices are a teeny bit incongruous. I'm not surprised he's not dating movie stars over FHM models and cocktail waitresses. I'm surprised he's not dating political activists or NGO workers or smart lady bloggers over the women he goes for. This is not the same thing as saying cocktail waitresses aren't intelligent or interesting. But if you're dating George Clooney and a bunch of professional doors suddenly open up, what you do with that golden opportunity says a lot about your priorities, I think.
@BinderClip: it makes me suspect though that he doesn't WANT an intellectual equal. i don't want to believe it, but the evidence is so consistent it's hard to ignore. Terrifying to think George Clooney is going around turning lawyers into models.
@shnuguel: oh, it completely makes me question whether he's actually as interesting as he seems, or whether he shines like a star because he's surrounded by dummies. Still, if I were a smart hot lady pursued by George Clooney, I'd still do him in an instant, even just for one night.
@J.D.Regent: His first (and only wife) was a smart actress named Talia Balsam who is now married to John Slattery AND plays his ex-wife Mona on MadMen. He has vowed repeatedly he'd never marry again, and seems to be keeping that promise.
If he hooked up with an actress of repute, say a Julia Roberts or Nicole Kidman, he'd be sharing the spotlight. If they spend quality time together and/or married, there's palimony and/or a pre-nup to deal with. With someone not famous (which I prefer to "dating down") he is elevating her, but remains the center of attention.
@J.D.Regent: Yeah. Either he doesn't want an intellectual equal b/c he's an ass, or he doesn't want an intellectual equal because he's not actually as smart and cool and interesting as we think he is.
@BinderClip: This is a very plausible theory. It's quite possible that George Clooney is somewhat of a bimbo in his own right. In fact after thirty years of a being a Hollywood pretty boy it's more than likely.
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I actually heard he was seeing a v smart human rights activist.
He has that villa in Italy and can just stash her in there...
And as an aside, I know his parents and have met him a few times and have never heard that he was gay. We also have several friends in common in H'wood. But the gay thing? I remember "they" also said it about George Stephanopolous and JFK, Jr...
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To me, choosing to date people who aren't in the public eye the way he is seems a pretty sensible move - less gossip, fewer paps, etc etc. Of course, as a less cynical person than me might say, maybe he just happened to really like, or at least be attracted to, all these women? Stranger things have happened...
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If you think that education and working hard and succeeding at something important matters more than good looks, then yes, you are going to think that a woman lawyer or doctor deserves more respect than a model or a waitress.
Again, I really don't give a damn who he dates. I was concerned when the French law student left her studies, but as someone else said, she couldn't have been terribly dedicated.
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Because that's 99.99999999999999999% of the general population? Isn't that a totally ridiculous standard? That's kind of analogous to asking, "Why would Donald Trump only date women who had less money?"
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I don't feel like I know him well enough to analyze his dating habits, but it's hard not to notice he has a physical type. They all have very similar nose/eye areas and smiles!
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Asking "Why doesn't Clooney date women who have achieved the same stature in similarly high powered fields such as law, medicine, or even a fellow hollywoodite? Is it because he is intimidated by them?"
It is another thing altogether for Jez to seemingly agree to the idea that a model, a waitress, a whatever is not WORTHY of a George Clooney.
It's gross.
No one asked why Julia Roberts married an unknown camerman. It was all, awww she is so down to earth, she wants a non-Hollywood REAL guy. That's so cool!
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No. 1 - He is dating women whose sole purpose, given their professions, is to look attractive.
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Seriously? You could say that about a gazillion professions. No one would be complaining that he only dates attractive women if they all had their advanced degrees.
No. 2 - These women *are*, professionally, less successful.
The French woman was a teacher before meeting Clooney, and Renee Z has an Oscar. All seem to be making money and getting by, sounds pretty damn good to me.
No. 3 - These partnerships are not equal.
Do you know him personally? Them? No? Alright, then I will continue to assume I don't know anything about them or their relationships, you go right ahead and continue to make assumptions.
No. 4 - These women diminish the *real* but perhaps not young or attractive successful women.
Just because Clooney does not seem to value women in white collar/academic/professional jobs? Okay.
No. 5 - This is more about him, not them.
It sure doesn't seem that way, given some of the things I am reading.
No. 6 - He is rich/powerful, they are hot, it's an exchange.
This I agree with on the whole, or as a common theme in relationships, but again, I am not prepared to make that assumption in this case.
No. 7 - Some of the women have taken advantage of "doors" that have opened up from dating him.
So?
This thread bums me out.
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I get that it's interesting to take a look at the pattern, but I can't really do much but shrug about it.
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On the other hand, she's ambitious, talented and has done extremely well for herself. It bothers her that her male peers don't admire those qualities in her the way she admires those qualities in them - generally, dudes don't get creamy over a woman's accomplishments. Like this man she was talking about, Clooney's whole deal is that he is "intellectual, politically aware" actor guy - men like that are "supposed" to be interested in women like themselves, not have the same tastes as your more typical modelizers. This is all besides the point - people like what they like - but I can see where both sides are coming from.
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It is not that these women are not smart or kind or anything, but when it becomes a pattern, it can indicate the sort of personality that doesn't appreciate an equal partnership, or being challenged by a partner, or even *gasp* a more successful partner. It's a comment on Clooney's character, not theirs.
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If he hooked up with an actress of repute, say a Julia Roberts or Nicole Kidman, he'd be sharing the spotlight. If they spend quality time together and/or married, there's palimony and/or a pre-nup to deal with. With someone not famous (which I prefer to "dating down") he is elevating her, but remains the center of attention.
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