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vanka-vstanka
03/06/09

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Only the American stores closed, guys. You don't need to feel much sympathy for her, and if you really want to buy some KP shit, you can go to a Russian mall.

My impression of Kira Plastinina has always been, "Well, this is kind of cute, but I'm not going to pay 4000 roubles for something designed by a spoiled 14-year-old." I think I would have been to embarrassed to even carry the bag home.
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undomesticgoddess doesn't sleep a wink
03/06/09

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In this economy, people have nothing to spare. Apparently not even sympathy.
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jenalicious
03/06/09

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that space was like a revolving door.. i used to work directly across the street, and there have been like 4 different stores there in the past 3 years.

plus, i have to say there's no way that stuff could compete with forever 21 on the same block, with similar items at muchhhhhh cheaper prices.
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megscissorhands
03/06/09

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Wouldn't it be sweet if you could rent that place out and live there? (maybe changing the glass storefront to real walls, if you're into that kind of thing. you know, privacy).

Sure makes my dinky studio seem even more claustrophobia-inducing.
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♥AntiSocialSocialite♥
03/06/09

@megscissorhands: as a party-planner, I can't see a vacant space without wanting to rent it out and throw a HUGE soiree - and storefronts are THE BEST!
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JessJess
03/06/09

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It makes me sad that we can only feel compassion for those who have less money than we do.

Don't forget, there are millionaires who have been so miserable they have made multiple suicuide attempts, and there are people in remote islands living in poverty who wake up every moring with a big smiles on their faces. Why not try to have compassion for all people regardless of their financial situation?

Money really has very little to do with the emotional state of a person and how deeply they experience disappointment.
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AthertonMerriweather
03/06/09

@JessJess: COTD nom!
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Evie Havok
03/06/09

@JessJess: I'm of the mentality that money might not make you happier but it does get you closer to it. And anyway, in this world when you have less money it equals to having less everything. So, that's why I feel compassion for those who have less than I do. Furthermore, if you have emotional/mental problems, well, you have the resources and finances to get help for that. This comes from someone who is upper middle class. I used to go to school with people like this. They would scoff at you if you ever gave them a modicum of sympathy. Trust me. They don't need it.
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tscheese
03/06/09

@JessJess: Well, sure, rich and poor people alike can have all sorts of problems. Money doesn't necessarily buy contentment. But it does buy freedom and resources.

For people who are on the brink of losing homes, going bankrupt due to medical bills, or are in danger of being unable to feed themselves and their children: on average, I'd imagine that they have a lot more to worry about than those sad multimillionaires. If you're literally worried about not having a roof over your head, or going hungry, or dying of a curable disease because you couldn't afford the treatments--well, probably the last thing you want to hear is that you're experiencing disappointment too deeply.

If a rich person is extremely distraught, to the point of having suicidal thoughts, there's a much better chance that they can afford therapy and counseling (which can be very expensive.) It doesn't mean that they always will seek help, but they have far, far, FAR greater agency and much more recourse than the poor.

So yes, this is why I feel terrible for people who have lost their jobs and homes and health due to money problems. Sure, there are some people who live on narrow incomes and are perfectly happy--but if things go terribly wrong for them, they don't have many options. Money doesn't buy happiness, but it DOES give you lots of options, and that's why I have a hard time being sorry for people who have lots and lots of resources.
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TakeADeepBreath
03/06/09

@JessJess: I'm sorry, but in these shitty times, I equate what happened to this young lady to a toddler dropping their ice cream cone. Sure, it may be devastating to them, but in the grand scheme of things, they are fine, and they will be fine.

As for your reference to suicidal millionaires, thats a whole nother can worms and doesn't have much to do with this particular story.
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greengrey
03/06/09

@afiunderground: In my experience, if a family is wealthy there's more stigma with seeking help. It's "shameful". Your emotions and feelings belong on the inside. With your ulcers.
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Evie Havok
03/06/09

@greengrey: Well, if they're too arrogant to get help then they need to face their problems and learn how to suck it up. Either that or learn how to let go of the shame and seek help. That's all I can say.
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Evie Havok
03/06/09

@afiunderground: Also, I'm speaking as someone who sucked it up and got help when I needed it.
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greengrey
03/06/09

@afiunderground: I'm speaking as someone who wanted to get help but was told depression is fake and that I just need to exercise.

Drinking FTW.
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Evie Havok
03/06/09

@greengrey: That's what my mother told me but she still sent me to the psychologist/psychiatrist. I've been going to therapy for five years now. :(
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JessJess
03/06/09

@tscheese:

I agree, many problems can be fixed in this day and age with money. I would absolutely rather be rich and depressed than poor and depressed.

I just know there have been times in my life when I had almost no resources and felt fine even though others might have felt sorry for me, and other times when I could buy virtually anything I wanted and inside I was a total mess, so you never know who might need your compassion the most.

Does this girl have it easier than 99.9% of the population? Of course, but it still sucks that her business went under. I don't think we should take up donations for her or anything, I just don't like the fact that people are celebrating the failure of a 16 year old girl, even if she is a rich girl.
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TakeADeepBreath
03/06/09

@JessJess: I dont think anyone was "celebrating" her failure. Although, I do think that this is a very good thing for her. A good business lesson to learn that can only help her succeed more in lide.
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TakeADeepBreath
03/06/09

@TakeADeepBreath: Although it wont help me succeed, because I can spell.

Lide=Life
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Whiskey and Popcorn
03/06/09

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Aah, this little entrepeneur will land on her expensively shod feet. Just look out for her book in a few years: "Making a comeback after 18" .
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marshmallory
03/06/09

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So...can I have that rug? Can I?
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A Small Turnip
03/06/09

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Well, this sucks. Where am I going to get my bubble-gum-coloured rhinestone-encrusted matroshka-patterned leggings now? M&S?
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A Small Turnip
03/06/09

@ASmallTurnip: But in all seriousness? Totally blows for all the people she was employing. Jobs are scarce as hen's teeth, yo. None of us need more bad economic news.
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Cafezinha
03/06/09

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Yes, but at least the rug really ties the room together.
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VirtuousVixen
03/06/09

@Cafezinha: How many times do I have to tell you that I don't roll on Shabbos?
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Cafezinha
03/06/09

@VirtuousVixen: SHOMER FUCKING SHABBOS.
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Rare Affinity
03/06/09

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I don't feel sorry for the girl as the whole venture smacked of a spoilt child being indulged by her fabulously wealthy parents. However I do feel sorry for all those people who lost their jobs as a result and for any supplier who might go to the wall themselves if they don't get paid.
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coodlebump
03/06/09

@Rare Affinity: Seriously. If this matters to her, she'll have plenty of time and opportunity to keep plugging at it. But she's not the only one affected by a business failure.
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Rare Affinity
03/06/09

@coodlebump: She might as well go off to college for a few years and perhaps do a business degree or art and design, depending where her interests lie. It doesn't seem as if her family are quite down to their last rouble yet.
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tscheese
03/06/09

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Is this the same store that displaced the 5th Avenue Ricky's NYC on like...43rd ish? I feel like this name is familiar or something.

YOU TOOK AWAY MY RICKY'S. THAT WAS THE BIG ONE WITH ALL THE HOOKER BOOTS AND YEAR-ROUND HALLOWEEN COSTUMES. ALL IS RUIN.
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LaComtesse
03/06/09

@tscheese: Eventually, when I start popping out little LaComtesses and move to the country, I think one of the things I will miss most about NYC is the Ricky's. I've tried to explain the store to out of town friends and they just can't get it. "So, it's like, a beauty supply store with everthing. Shampoo, make up, body wash, moisturizer, nail polish, wigs, accessories. I also go there to buy tights. Oh and funny t-shirts. I got my rainboots there. They sell costumes year round, and, in the back, is a sex shop."
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hellosunshine
03/06/09

@tscheese: Hm. KP is in SoHo and there's a Ricky's two doors down! So I'm not sure. I love that place!
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VirtuousVixen
03/06/09

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You know, it's really frustrating to see all the "oh, poor little rich girl *eyeroll*" stuff on here. The girl is 16 - imagine what it would feel like if at 16 something you worked on and cared about failed like that.

Being rich doesn't mean you don't feel disappointment (or any other sadness-inducing emotion).
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LaComtesse
03/06/09

@VirtuousVixen: Disappointment feels the same at any age. Any business owner feels hurt when things go sour. However, my lack of sympathy comes from the fact that, unlike many a business over, she didn't have to work to build her "empire."
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Evie Havok
03/06/09

@VirtuousVixen: At least she can wipe the tears away with her money.
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AthertonMerriweather
03/06/09

@VirtuousVixen: Yeah, I'm dissappointed by the comments here too.
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coodlebump
03/06/09

@LaComtesse: She wasn't the only one employed by her business. Another store/line bites the dust, that's more retail workers/managers losing their jobs and accountants, suppliers, etc. losing money.
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LaComtesse
03/06/09

@coodlebump: Like I said in my comment above, it always sucks when a business goes under.
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TakeADeepBreath
03/06/09

@VirtuousVixen: Let me put things in perspective for you.

My boyfriend and I both just got laid off.

My parents, just got divorced, mother does not have a new job yet, daddy is stuck with mortgage, paying her rent and all bills, so money is tight.

My boyfriend is a trust fund kid, who didn't really need to work in the first place, but did because he's not a loser. His finance are taken care of and his parents are loaded.

Sure, we are both disappointed by what happened with our jobs, but who do you think may have it worse?
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greengrey
03/06/09

@coodlebump: Thank you. The 16yr old isn't the only one effected by her US stores going out of business. She employed people.
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Evie Havok
03/06/09

@greengrey: Yeah, I feel way more sorry for those people employed by her than for her. At least she has daddy to fall back on . What do they have?
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greengrey
03/06/09

@afiunderground: I don't feel "sorry" for her, I just don't understand the spite being directed towards her. Arguably, she did more than any other 16 year olds (or 26 year olds, for that matter) would do in her position.

Not to mention, most 16 year olds have "daddy" to fall back on.
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Evie Havok
03/06/09

@greengrey: Her father gave her this business. She didn't work for it. If she had, I would have been sympathetic. Also, most 16 year olds might have daddy to fall back on but they don't have her daddy's gazillions to do it comfortably.
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margareita metermaid
03/06/09

@greengrey: well, not to be all nitpicky (but here goes!) i don't think 'most' 16 yr olds do have daddy to fall back on. some do, sure, but not most. anyway, that's all, carry on!
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VirtuousVixen
03/06/09

@TakeADeepBreath: I'm very sorry for your current state, and I hope that you're able to get back on your feet soon. But the fact that your life currently sucks doesn't negate the fact that this sucks for that girl. I understand how it's hard to be empathetic when you are, admittedly, far worse off than she is at the moment, but I think it would just be nice if everyone didn't feel the need to dismiss Kira's situation (not to mention the situation her employees are now in) just because she has money and a still-comfortable life to fall back on.
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Samanthrax
03/06/09

@VirtuousVixen: I mean, I guess I was sad when my friendship bracelet business went under. But look... I survived. Disappointment is a part of life.
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morninggloria
03/06/09

@afiunderground: HA
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greengrey
03/06/09

@margareita metermaid: So when an average 16 year old loses their job at the mall, they're out on the streets? I thought most lived with their parents?
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TakeADeepBreath
03/06/09

@VirtuousVixen: As someone with a degree in Business, I know that this is the best thing that can happen to her professionally. It will make her a way better entrepreneur and businesswoman. And since she comes from a rich family, she can afford to live and learn from her mistakes. I see no reason at all to feel sorry for her. She can only soar higher from here.

And I dont think anyone on here expressed a lack of sympathy for her employees.
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margareita metermaid
03/06/09

@greengrey: I guess it depends on what you meant by 'having daddy to fall back on'. if it's simply a matter of having a place to live, sure, some 16 yr olds have daddy's that have houses. if it's daddy supporting a business venture, or providing economic support, a hellava lot don't. And many, many, many just have mommy to provide that.
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TakeADeepBreath
03/06/09

@Samazon: Perfection!
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♥AntiSocialSocialite♥
03/06/09

@VirtuousVixen: disliking someone for being well-off and young is JUST as bad as disliking someone for being poor and old - she was born into money, and from what I can tell (from MTV specials, etc), she's a sweet, well-adjusted kid....
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yvanehtnioj
03/06/09

@BeccaSaurus Rex: No it's not, because unlike being poor and old, being born into wealth carries with it a host of benefits and opens doors at all levels of society.

Is it admirable to feel spiteful toward rich people? Nope. Is it just as bad as hating poor people? Nope.
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LaComtesse
03/06/09

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Only the US business failed. Ukraine, Russia, and Kazakhstan stores are all fine. While it always sucks to have a business go bust, I am having trouble mustering sympathy for the 16 y.o. daughter of an oligarch who was GIVEN a business and had it fail in one of the four countries she has shops.
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greengrey
03/06/09

@LaComtesse: What about the people who worked in her stores and are now out of jobs?
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LaComtesse
03/06/09

@greengrey: Like I said, it sucks that the business went under. Reprecussions of that are never fun. I'm talking about feeling sorry for HER, not for her workers.
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PilgrimSoul
03/06/09

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My sympathy fountain will turn on once I know I am not being laid off and kicked out of the country myself, and not one minute before.

Self-absorption FTW!
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Evie Havok
03/06/09

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Oh, please. This brat has a billionaire for a father. Yes, I feel very sorry for her (*eyeroll*).
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AthertonMerriweather
03/06/09

@afiunderground: Yes, what is she doing being creative and trying her hand at business? Any good brat would be up in the club snorting coke and having sex in bathrooms.
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FourInchHeels
03/06/09

@afiunderground: Can't you instead be sad for a teenager who had the guts and wherewithal to start her own business, and has now seen its demise?

Rich kids have feelings too.
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Evie Havok
03/06/09

@FourInchHeels: I would if she had actually started the business. Her father started it. She was just a pretty figurehead.
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