@Le Kangourou de Kataroo: There are many religious people who they do represent. People have a right to religion and a right to representation.
You may not like it, but taking away their right to debate and argue would be wrong. They aren't the ones making law, they're just putting the religious argument across. More tolerance is needed.
@Agumen: Maybe it's just me but if they want to hold on to their tax-exempt status, they should refrain from spouting off their opinion regarding political issues, period.
Otherwise, I'm sure this economy would benefit quite well from taxing those mother fuckers like every other business.
@Agumen: They are NOT just putting the religious argument across. They are essentially telling congresspeople that they either vote THEIR way or they will pull all support. They're not speaking in a political vacuum.
@Agumen: The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops is one of the most powerful lobbying organizations in America. The Stupak amendment was practically written by Catholic Bishops.
I want my right to pick and choose what my tax dollars fund! I'm gonna start sticking notes to my returns saying that I'm totally cool with this funding abortions, but no wars please.
Ha, it's funny that the guy from the US Conference of Catholic Bishops wants "everybody covered and nobody deliberately killed." That statement encompasses both ends of the political spectrum all at once (liberals who want universal coverage, conservatives who are anti-choice), good luck achieving both of those goals simultaneously. Also, I assume by "everybody" he actually means US citizens, I strongly doubt that he wants undocumented workers covered.
@bluetrain84: Or women, really, when their lives are at risk due to pregnancy complications and they cannot depend on insurance to cover the procedure that will save their lives.
@bluetrain84: I'm really pro-choice, but honestly that sentiment is how I think TRUE christians should feel. Everyone should be taken care of and no one deliberately be killed. I can see why anti-choice people would feel this way.
Of course, I also believe this extends to wars and to the death penalty....
@bluetrain84: The Catholic Church actually supports the rights of immigrants, including undocumented workers. The Church supports immigration reform and some Catholic churches that have opened themselves up as safe havens to undocumented immigrants.
@Lymed: That's awesome and I totally support that. But being as we live in a country that theoretically separates Church and State, I don't want the Catholic Church being part of the discussion on healthcare.
@jemandtheholograms: I don't want the Catholic church involved in the discussion on healthcare either. However, they are actually a huge health care provider in this country. There are very large Catholic health systems that run hospitals and I think that is one reason they are getting so much attention talking about reform.
@Lymed: Fair point. They do have a lot of hospitals. I just wish that there was a way to separate the fact that they are providing health care as a religious institution and the religion (which I guess is sort of opposite of the point, but wishful thinking).
@Lymed: Oh, I didn't know that they had an official stand like that, thank you for pointing it out! I was just commenting that those two ideals are generally on opposite sides of the political spectrum rather than being considered together.
It took me three attempts to watch this completely through, because I felt like it would make me a better person or some shit, but no. It just makes my brain hurt. This is the sort of thing that makes me want to lose myself in a bottle. Goddamn.
The other day in the car, my bf and I were brainstorming what to get his mother for Christmas. I said what she really wanted - but would never ask her liberal sons for - is a copy of this book.
He nearly did one of those angry parent moves: Swerving across three lanes of traffic to squeal to a stop by the side of the road, gravel flying, and say "I'm turning this car around and we're going home RIGHT NOW!"
This is how much he hates Palin: He will not make his mother happy for Christmas if it means giving this political prom princess a red cent. I love a man with principles.
It was a good interview. The only question is: will anyone actually learn from this? If you're a Republican strategist, you're probably quaking, because while Sarah Palin's personality is winning converts to the party, her lack of tangible policies and plans is going to be hard to sell to the middle-of-the-road Americans that must be courted for a candidate to win. If you're a Democratic strategist, you may be laughing to yourself at how "simple-minded" her followers seem, and that would be a mistake, because if the Reverend Jim Jones showed us anything, its that if you get people to believe in you, whether or not what you say makes sense, they will drink the Kool-Aid.
@SomeAuthorGirl: Compromise is for people who are WRONG. And we can't compromise with polar bears. We need to drill for oil, but not just oil. We also need to drill for gas.
Auntrypranureal. She was my favorite. I like that after she said "auntrypranureal" you could see her brain go "ABORT MISSION... ABORT MISSION, say conducive, then run away!!!
@Triana Orpheus: Hey, she's from Ohio, she doesn't have an excuse! :) I think she didn't have a clue what she was talking about, and had to give it a few tries, then gave up.
@DearJamie: I'm from Indiana, I'm hip to the special midwestern accents :) It wasn't so much how she said it, it was the fact that she had no clue what she was saying. That's why she had to say it 3 times. I'm knocking the Ohio accent, I'm knocking crazy Sarah Palin supporters.
You can spend your life educating yourself, becoming a decent human being with a conscience who makes an informed choice...and your vote is worth no more than the vote of each one of these individuals. Depressing thought for the day.
@heykoukla: You just had to, didn't you? Damn, it's only Monday. You could have spared us at least til later in the week when we're full of stuffing and turkey to blunt the impact.
@Maritsa: "It's a real shame, ain't it, that all that time you spend in real careful considerin' don't count for nothin', once my vote runs y'all's right off the road. "
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I did not elect them. I am not Catholic. I am not represented by them. If the media just STOPS paying attention to them, maybe they'll go away.
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You may not like it, but taking away their right to debate and argue would be wrong. They aren't the ones making law, they're just putting the religious argument across. More tolerance is needed.
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Otherwise, I'm sure this economy would benefit quite well from taxing those mother fuckers like every other business.
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And then when they accept my tax filing, thus proving there IS a secret programme? Sweet confirmation, baby. And they won't even realize they did it.
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Of course, I also believe this extends to wars and to the death penalty....
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He nearly did one of those angry parent moves: Swerving across three lanes of traffic to squeal to a stop by the side of the road, gravel flying, and say "I'm turning this car around and we're going home RIGHT NOW!"
This is how much he hates Palin: He will not make his mother happy for Christmas if it means giving this political prom princess a red cent. I love a man with principles.
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Hi, Sarah Palin supporters: This is why the intellectual elite look down on you. To quote Jon Stewart, it's all the... NOTHING.
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To be honest, I also think she probably just didn't know how to say it.
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Perhaps that will come at Lou Dobbs' book signing. #hey-o #hereallweek
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[www.theonion.com]
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"It's a real shame, ain't it, that all that time you spend in real careful considerin' don't count for nothin', once my vote runs y'all's right off the road. "
God, I love The Onion.
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Want some? I've got lots!
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