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    Image of whats_in_a_name whats_in_a_name
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cosmo Puts Down Scrunchies, Picks Up Petition
    It's about time that they (cosmo) got something right in regards to human sexuality/reproduction.
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    Image of Tchotchke Tchotchke
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cosmo Puts Down Scrunchies, Picks Up Petition
    Ok, let's get to the heart of the issue: How is this going to affect my ability to find a man?
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    Image of SomeAuthorGirl SomeAuthorGirl
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cosmo Puts Down Scrunchies, Picks Up Petition
    I fail to understand why you all are debating the merits of politics in Cosmo when you could be determining What His Hug Reveals.

    I'm ashamed of all of you.
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    Image of rodmanstreet rodmanstreet
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cosmo Puts Down Scrunchies, Picks Up Petition
    How come every time you come around that Stupak-Pitts amendment's going down?
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    Image of morninggloria morninggloria
    11/19/09

    @rodmanstreet:
    Get rid of my bumps, my bumps, my bumps, my bumps.
    My lovely baby bumps.
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    Image of karmasutra är svensk karmasutra är svensk
    11/19/09

    @rodmanstreet: Tonight's the night
    Let's get it out
    I got my rights
    But then they shout:

    "Don't go out and kill it-
    Like, it's against my God!
    Jump off the doctor's bed
    Or die die OFF!"
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    Image of morninggloria morninggloria
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cosmo Puts Down Scrunchies, Picks Up Petition
    I wonder if "Fergie's naughty honeymoon surprise" is secret code for "unplanned pregnancy and hasty abortion." You know, to fit in with the new political theme of Cosmo.
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    Image of Jack_Burton Jack_Burton
    11/19/09

    @morninggloria: It could involve singing 'bout "that boom-boom-pow" and a surprise pegging...
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    Image of veronykah veronykah
    11/19/09

    In reply to Blood On The Senate Floor: Majority Leader Drops Stupak-Pitts
    I keep seeing "it would expand coverage to all but 6% of Americans" can someone tell me who those 6% of Americans would be and why they wouldn't be eligible?
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    Image of BearDownCBears BearDownCBears
    11/19/09

    @veronykah: Probably above the threshold for Medicaid but would rather take the penalty than buy insurance. If you let people opt out of programs (even if they incur a fee), you'll have these folks.
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    Image of DutchessOfDork DutchessOfDork
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cosmo Puts Down Scrunchies, Picks Up Petition
    Why the fuck should you pay for it Politico assholes?
    It is because it is a LEGAL medical procedure that should be kept as such. Taxpayers pay for lots of shit they don't use necessarily. I don't have any use for military and think that it shouldn't receive as much funding as it does. I don't have any use for vasectomies, Viagara, prostate exams and penis cancer screenings. But guess what, I pay for it, and I am proud to do so. It's a community for a reason, we are supposed to help one another.
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    Image of morninggloria morninggloria
    11/19/09

    @DutchessOfDork: Politico assholes should pay for it because an abortion is a hell of a lot cheaper than prenatal care, followed by a hospital birth, followed by a lifetime of medical care for an unwanted child.
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    Image of futuremouse futuremouse
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cosmo Puts Down Scrunchies, Picks Up Petition
    I don't know how I feel about this. It's like my grandmother joining facebook, cute but not quite right. I'm on the fence until I know for sure this doesn't involve putting anything up your boyfriends butt or underwear hairties.
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    Image of BabyJane BabyJane
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cosmo Puts Down Scrunchies, Picks Up Petition
    My scrunchie and I salute you, Cosmo!
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    Image of NellMood NellMood
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cosmo Puts Down Scrunchies, Picks Up Petition
    Um, don't read the three comments at Politco, unless you enjoy reading hateful, misogynistic things.
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    Image of Zombie Ms. Skittles Zombie Ms. Skittles
    11/19/09

    @NellMood: Already did. Made note never to sleep with those idiots. One of whom I officially want to follow around all day and say things like, "put down that cheeseburger! I'm not paying for your triple bypass! Get off the computer and go exercise, lazy turd! Eat some veggies, I don't want to deal with your colon cancer!"
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    Image of Elaken Elaken
    11/19/09

    @NellMood: At this point, I think Jezebel is one of the only places I will read the comments.
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    Image of special_boots special_boots
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cosmo Puts Down Scrunchies, Picks Up Petition
    First Harry Reid, now Cosmo? What's next? Heidi Montag holds a press conference at which, clad soberly in a charcoal suit, she explains in a clear, articulate manner that this amendment represents an unwelcome intrusion of the government into a women's personal lives and a major setback for women's rights?

    Today is just full of surprises.
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    Image of Zombie Ms. Skittles Zombie Ms. Skittles
    11/19/09

    In reply to Cosmo Puts Down Scrunchies, Picks Up Petition
    Well played, Cosmo! Making me hate you all these years when you had this deep in your insides all along. You're like that cheerleader who you hated all through high school until one day she told her bitchy friends to stop making fun of you for being fat because they were just jealous of how cute your outfit was and then you weren't sure if you loved her or you hated her but everyone left you alone after that.
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    Image of Maritsa Maritsa
    11/19/09

    In reply to Blood On The Senate Floor: Majority Leader Drops Stupak-Pitts
    I just read on the NYT that part of the funding is coming from a 5% tax on elective cosmetic surgery.

    [www.nytimes.com]
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    Image of WashingMyHair WashingMyHair
    11/19/09

    @Maritsa: Interesting bit of news. Haven't read the article yet, but I wonder if that means major surgery like face lifts, or does it also include minor procedures like IPL laser treatments to get red of those pesky sun spots?
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    Image of la.donna.pietra la.donna.pietra
    11/19/09

    @Maritsa: I'd say that's smart, given that one of the most common objections I hear regarding health insurance is that "money is wasted on cosmetic surgery!" (Never mind that I've never seen a plan that covers elective cosmetic surgery.)
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    Image of Maritsa Maritsa
    11/19/09

    @la.donna.pietra: I'm LOLing at the idea of my insurance company, which just fought me on a benefit whose coverage is (1) clearly in my plan and (2) mandated by state law, paying for a boob job or face lift.

    #tips
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    Image of angryyoungwoman angryyoungwoman
    11/19/09

    @la.donna.pietra: My roommate used to work in Hollywood. She said that a lot of actor's health plans covered elective plastic surgery as a necessity for their careers. Women would marry actors specifically for the insurance so they could get some plastic surgery done. Weird.
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    Image of la.donna.pietra la.donna.pietra
    11/19/09

    @angryyoungwoman: I have serious difficulty believing that. I've worked for a number of companies managing their insurance plans and reviewing possible new plans, and I've never seen a plan that covered elective plastic surgery. While the Screen Actors Guild does have health insurance, it's notoriously bare-bones. Your roommate sounds a mite naive.
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    Image of angryyoungwoman angryyoungwoman
    11/19/09

    @la.donna.pietra: Well, it's been a long time since she was an actress (or auditioning for shows and dating actors, more accurately), so I could see that a lot of things have probably changed. She's also crazy, so there is that . . .

    #tips
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    Image of Diziet_Sma Diziet_Sma
    11/19/09

    In reply to Blood On The Senate Floor: Majority Leader Drops Stupak-Pitts
    "There is a conscience clause that makes it perfectly acceptable for insurance companies to deny that coverage or health care providers to refuse carrying out the procedure. But the bill also requires each exchange to offer one plan that provides abortion coverage and one that doesn't"

    Can someone help an English expat get her head around this - what is an 'exchange'? And if your healthcare comes with your job, you still get to choose a plan with abortion, right? Or does your employer choose? Also, side issue, this 97% thing - who are the 3% who won't get the option for free healthcare?
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    Image of winner winner
    11/19/09

    @Diziet_Sma: They will have the option but are likely to opt out. They will not be penalized for doing so.

    Here you go:

    c) Exceptions-

    `(1) DEPENDENTS- Subsection (a) shall not apply to any individual for any taxable year if a deduction is allowable under section 151 with respect to such individual to another taxpayer for any taxable year beginning in the same calendar year as such taxable year.

    `(2) NONRESIDENT ALIENS- Subsection (a) shall not apply to any individual who is a nonresident alien.

    `(3) INDIVIDUALS RESIDING OUTSIDE UNITED STATES- Any qualified individual (as defined in section 911(d)) (and any qualifying child residing with such individual) shall be treated for purposes of this section as covered by acceptable coverage during the period described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of section 911(d)(1), whichever is applicable.

    `(4) INDIVIDUALS RESIDING IN POSSESSIONS OF THE UNITED STATES- Any individual who is a bona fide resident of any possession of the United States (as determined under section 937(a)) for any taxable year (and any qualifying child residing with such individual) shall be treated for purposes of this section as covered by acceptable coverage during such taxable year.

    `(5) RELIGIOUS CONSCIENCE EXEMPTION-

    `(A) IN GENERAL- Subsection (a) shall not apply to any individual (and any qualifying child residing with such individual) for any period if such individual has in effect an exemption which certifies that such individual is a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof described in section 1402(g)(1) and an adherent of established tenets or teachings of such sect or division as described in such section.
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    Image of Lymed Lymed
    11/19/09

    @Diziet_Sma:

    1. An exchange is a system where different insurance companies can sell their plans to people who don't have employer coverage and some proposals will also let small businesses purchase through the exchange. It will have rules limiting what types of plans can be offered and how premiums can be determined.

    2. If your health care comes with your job, you often have no choice at all. Many employers offer just one plan and you take it or leave it. Other employers offer a choice of 2-4 plans that cost different amounts. But your employer is choosing the plans offered and often, they don't understand what they are doing and just taking what the insurance broker tells them is in their price range.

    3. Health reform is not providing 97% of Americans with free health care. Only people with extremely low incomes will get free health care. Everybody else will have to pay or have their employer pay. Most employers only pay a portion of the health premium. It can easily cost people $400 or $500 or even more a month to insure their families through their employer plan. The reform proposals will offer government subsidies to people with low incomes, but many will get subsidies that only pay for part of the cost.

    4. The reason some people won't get coverage is that they still have to pay for it and they won't or can't pay for it, that some states won't have exchanges so affordable coverage won't be available, or they are undocumented immigrants who don't have employer coverage.
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    Image of Diziet_Sma Diziet_Sma
    11/19/09

    @winner: Thank you. But when you say, "They will have the option but are likely to opt out. They will not be penalized for doing so," do you mean employers can choose a plan for you that doesn't include abortion, so that if you needed one, you would have to pay for it? Sorry, am a little confused.
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    Image of Diziet_Sma Diziet_Sma
    11/19/09

    @Lymed: Thanks for taking the time to explain it so well in plain English! If I could heart you again, I would.

    Now I understand it more, I don't get why we're celebrating this. It seems like in many cases, a woman's access to abortion will still be in someone else's hands - her employer's.
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    Image of winner winner
    11/19/09

    @Diziet_Sma: Oh, no. I'm saying that specific people will have the option to opt out without penalization. The religious objection, for example; undocumented workers are NOT included in that 3%.
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    11/19/09

    @Diziet_Sma: Oh, also, 2/3rds of private insurers cover elective abortion. That wouldn't change. Apparently, you can ask your employer for additional insurance options but I'm not sure how often this happens.

    Insurance you have through the military has never covered elective abortion. Through Medicaid, only a few states offer coverage beyond life endangerment, incest or rape.

    This is a great tool, click on the links to the left to see the key difference in the bills: [www.nytimes.com]

    But you're right - we're "celebrating" this because Reid is a Mormon and our expectations were low...
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    Image of sybann sybann
    11/19/09

    In reply to Blood On The Senate Floor: Majority Leader Drops Stupak-Pitts
    So does anyone else think the progress on this is due in large part to the internet and forums just like this that manage to EXPLAIN what these douchebags are doing? Which makes it possible for us to hold their feet to the fire - the first thing I did this morning was respond to an email from one of my reps on this issue.

    Bravo Latoya and Jez.
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    Image of Diziet_Sma Diziet_Sma
    11/19/09

    @sybann: I definitely think the internet is making people more politically aware, informed and active. We've already seen how powerful that can be - I doubt Obama would be president now if it hadn't been for all the online organizing. So, Yay!
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    Image of Cardbross Cardbross
    11/19/09

    @sybann: While I'm sure that was a part of it, remember the President has been out of the country engaging in mostly mostly behind-closed-doors talks and otherwise staying out of the news, so for political news organizations, the health care debate has been literally the only show in town.

    While their coverage may be more inflammatory than explanatory, I think the fact that Congress has been debating this bill in the public eye, rather than as a footnote to news coverage of the executive office, probably had a significant effect on bringing both parties closer to their base in the discussions.
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    11/19/09

    @Cardbross: I refuse to give any credit to traditional media anymore - I think in their pursuit of ratings/profits over truth in reporting they've betrayed their audience/real customers - us - and I'm unwilling to forgive them for it. And I'm IN the media.
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    11/19/09

    @sybann: I'm with you there. I'm no fan of traditional media (does TV count as traditional? what does that make newspapers?). I just think, in this instance, and regardless of what their actual stories where, they were dragged into mentioning the healthcare debate by a lack of other stories, and that probably had a beneficial effect by virtue of creating incidental accountability.

    #tips
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