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BytheSea
12/15/09

In reply to Robin Hood: Like Gladiator, But With Chain Mail & Horses
It looks cheesy and as ridiculous as the Kevin Costner version (training montage! to Survivor!) but I want to see it anyway b/c I hold out that one day, someone will make all the British folk tales and they will be just as wonderful as the Fairy Tale Theaters on Nickelodeon, except for adults. By which i mean, bloody the fields with Cromwell's men!
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littleliongirl
12/15/09

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The disney Robin Hood was possibly the most favourite of the disney films of my childhood. I'm certain I thought King John was a bemoaning lion and Robin a cheeky fox until I was about 9. Oh the accuracies of Hollywood!
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Dream Pantomime
12/15/09

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Oh, is this supposed to be the "true story" of Robin Hood, just like King Arthur back in 2004 was supposed to be the "true story" of the Arthurian legend? Grain of salt anyone?Nevertheless, I will probably see it. Robin Hood is always a good time. Not in Nottingham is one of those songs I get stuck in my head all the time for no reason other than because I love it so.

P.S. I highly recommend watching the trailer on mute with Not in Nottingham or Oo-de-lally playing in the background.
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thePrototype
12/15/09

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Nothing will beat the Mel Brooks classic!
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Dictator for Life
12/15/09

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I love a good historic epic, but it grates me that every forest in every movie set before the industrial revolution is full of spindly little new growth trees, with no undergrowth. Those forests should be almost impenetrable. Why can't they ever get that right?

Also, has anyone else read Sherwood and Robin and the King by Parke Godwin? Those books kick ass, and they should make movies based on them.
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Grim Reaper of the Forest
12/15/09

@Dictator for Life: True, but I think a lot of European forests were owned by the monarchy and managed for hunting, so there may have been a lot of park-like forests with little understory. But, the trees should be big. Of course, I'm pulling most of this out of my ass.
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aspiringexpatriate
12/15/09

@Dictator for Life: Because those forests don't exist anymore? At least, not anywhere that looks like England. Actually, a miniseries on Channel4 last year called The Devil's Whore was set during the English Civil War. They shot a lot in South Africa in an attempt to get the forests and hillsides right.
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BytheSea
12/15/09

@Dictator for Life: i know! I hike in a preserve that the parks people just let grow wild. Even now, with the overpopulation deer, you can't just offroad or you'll be hip-deep in nettles (snakes snakes snakes I CAN'T SEE THE SNAKES). I hate that every "forest" in movies looks like Central Park.
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BytheSea
12/15/09

@aspiringexpatriate: Yes they do, and it doesn't take more than a summer to let it grow up. For Stand By Me, the company had control over a little area of land for months; that's enough time for undergrowth to grow. Even if the company doesn't want to film in a nature preserve or a nontended section of a park (or the grassy section of a highway), they could create one. They don't want to b/c they can't get the equipment in there and they're too lazy to do something innovative b/c the audience is too dumb to know the difference.

BTW, Ginger Snaps The Beginning is the only movie i've seen in a realistic forest. Blaire Witch is pretty decent, tho they're clearly on a path the whole time.
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aspiringexpatriate
12/16/09

@BytheSea: Yeah, well, like you said, you can't get the equipment in there.
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Mayor Squeakerton
12/15/09

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I've always loved Robin Hood legends, but unfortunately for me I took a Medieval Heretics and Outlaws class my senior year of college. Now things like "the story behind the legend" when "Marian" is involved just makes me giggle. Now I know how my ancient art historian friend feels about Gladiator.

Side note: re-watched the Kevin Costner Robin Hood recently, first time probably since it was released, and had NO IDEA it was so Raimi-esque. Kind of awesome, mostly upsetting (because it wants to be serious).
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hortense
12/15/09

@Mayor Squeakerton: I haven't seen it in probably 15 years, but everyone I know who has watched it recently says the same thing, that they can't believe how campy it is when they remember it being a super serious movie.
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Mayor Squeakerton
12/15/09

@hortense: I <3 Netflix. I got to watch that again, and The Quick and the Dead. The latter was more awesome than I remembered (and actually was Raimi). Robin Hood? Not so much. Did make me realize why Mel Brooks chose that version specifically to mock, however. A good choice, indeed.
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andromache
12/15/09

@Mayor Squeakerton: "Now I know how my ancient art historian friend feels about Gladiator."

yes, try being a classicist and watching Gladiator. can't do it. everything makes me stabby. Troy isn't that great, but they do some things quite well, and I do love me some Eric Bana in greaves. Alexander is way too painful to watch, although Colin Farrell does look like the Great one himself with that hairstyle, and I will never see 300 because I just can't bring myself to watch it.

part of me really wants to do research about King Arthur and Robin Hood, but I know it would just ruin the movies for me!
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12/15/09

@andromache: My husband likes to scream out "There is no such thing as the HOT GATES" whenever 300 comes on cable.
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Mayor Squeakerton
12/15/09

@andromache: yes, it's how I feel about Last of the Mohicans (they are MAhican, and I dated one in college, and Uncas was MOHEGAN, forget it), etc., but manage to enjoy Indiana Jones out of the sheer force of Harrison Ford's awesome.
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andromache
12/15/09

@Mayor Squeakerton: haha! yes I do enjoy some Indiana Jones once I get past everything that is wrong and horrific about his "archaeology"
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Mayor Squeakerton
12/15/09

@andromache: best part? the population at large thinks THAT'S WHAT WE DO. really? we spend all day digging holes. with shovels. pawing through the dirt. then filling them back in. then moving the 10m to the next one.
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Jack_Burton
12/15/09

@Mayor Squeakerton: Alan Rickman makes that movie bearable: "No more merciful beheadings! And call-off Christmas!!"

Costener's accent is a fucking crime.
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BytheSea
12/15/09

@Mayor Squeakerton: Omgomg tell tel: what's the deal with Marion? And, in Daria, they hinted that Robin became the sheriff's "special friend." Fer serious, was there gay?
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BytheSea
12/15/09

@andromache: Have you seen the CGI'd Beowulf? I'm an English grad graduate and history lover and I thought it was really well done. Crispin Glover is the beast and he did all his lines in middle English.
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Mayor Squeakerton
12/15/09

@BytheSea: The by-the-book legends do not address any sodomy, per se. But Marion was added centuries later: the original Robin Hood stories take place sometime just after the Frankish takeover of England, which is 2 centuries before Richard I. Monks did all the copying in the pre-Guttenberg world, as they were the literate ones, and they often contorted mainstream versions of old myths and legends led to making all that stuff sound really religious and chivalric (as was the style in the 13/1400s). Hence Marion and the Crusades.
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
12/15/09

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I have a bit of a crush on Robin Hood in general, so hooray! A new Robin Hood! And it doesn't star Kevin Costner!
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quietlygoingmad
12/15/09

@Zombie Ms. Skittles: Me too! I think my loins went all aquiver seeing that trailer. I love a good, grungy brawl with arrows and chainmail!
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
12/15/09

@quietlygoingmad: As long as this Robin Hood has an English accent (ZING!) I'm going to be a happy camper.
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BlondeGoddess
12/15/09

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I just have one big problem with this. I cannot like Russell Crowe.
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pearlsdream
12/15/09

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Even though I loved Gladiator... when I watched this trailer I was feeling pretty "meh" until I saw..... Cate Blanchett! Then I was all like: HELLS YEAH. Now I have to see it.

I do love the disney Robin Hood (who can resist "Oo-de-lally"?) but to anyone who hasn't seen the 1938 Errol Flynn classic: Adventures of Robin Hood, I beseech you! Go now! And rent!

Yes, the men all wear very tight tights and it's Technicolor on crack, BUT the acting is superb, the cinematography is stunning, the music is soaring, the pace is exciting, and Oliva de Havilland and Errol Flynn have some of the most explosive on screen chemistry I've EVER witnessed.

Check it out. It's fantastic. :)
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token_illiterate_commenter
12/15/09

@pearlsdream: You forgot Basil Rathbone as Sir Guy! I would consider the "Technicolor on crack" as a positive. The movie is absolutely beautiful.
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pearlsdream
12/15/09

@token_illiterate_commenter: haha I find the "Technicolor" on crack a plus too, but it's not for everyone. Film making is so moody in color now. :P

And YESSSS I love Basil. My mom actually has a crush on him so I laugh whenever I see his little face.

Have you watched him, Errol, and Olivia in "Captain Blood"? That's another great swashbuckling film. (Same director as well) :)
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
12/15/09

@pearlsdream: This was my dad's favorite movie when I was a kid. I believe Errol Flynn was such an alcoholic by this time, he was filling his oranges with vodka. Either way, good movie!
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BearDownCBears
12/15/09

@pearlsdream: Best swordfight in movie history, with the shadows on the wall and stuff. Rob Roy has the close second, when Tim Roth gets hacked in half by Liam Nielsen, but still.
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token_illiterate_commenter
12/15/09

@pearlsdream: "Captain Blood" put the swash in swashbuckle.
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pearlsdream
12/15/09

@Zombie Ms. Skittles: oh god! How mischievously "Errol" of him. ha yeah, I definitely had an Errol Flynn phase and read a biography on him...

I remember being appalled to find out that when he died around age 50, he had the liver of an 85(?) year old man or something awful. 0_0

But yes- let's not remember him that way- let's remember him THIS way. All bright eyed and nimble. ;)
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
12/15/09

@pearlsdream: He was told he couldn't drink on-set as part of his contract, hence the vodka oranges.
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aspiringexpatriate
12/15/09

@pearlsdream: Also watch the early 90s Uma Thurman one. Great Saxon vs Norman interpretation.
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pearlsdream
12/15/09

@BearDownCBears: YES! That fight scene is fantastic! If you check out "Captain Blood" another Errol/Curtiz film they use that same effect... use of shadows in films makes me drool a little. :D

And actually I have yet to watch Rob Roy, I imagine after that comment though that you strongly recommend it, eh? :)
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pearlsdream
12/15/09

@token_illiterate_commenter: hahaha. too true ;)
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pearlsdream
12/15/09

@Zombie Ms. Skittles: Errol, you dog you! lol

injecting vodka into oranges sounds like an awful lot of effort.... delicious effort!! hahaha...

Er but... considering the end result that's probably inappropriate to say... my bad! :P
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pearlsdream
12/15/09

@aspiringexpatriate: I've actually haven't seen that one because I haven't heard much about it... but hey- I will have to check it out now since you recommend it and since I'm now in the mood for some Robin Hood time. haha
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RStewie
12/15/09

@pearlsdream: Ohhh, not the one with Liam Neeson, I hope. I do *not* recommend, not at all.
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pearlsdream
12/15/09

@RStewie: hahah I don't know if they were recommending the ENTIRE movie or rather just the particular sword fight... but hahaha I will take your opinion into account. ;)
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BearDownCBears
12/15/09

@RStewie: Oh yeah, oops, "Neeson", heh. To be fair, I just watched the swordfight part. I have no idea what the rest of the flick is about...land or something? Haggis?

@pearlsdream: Maybe you should listen to this RStewie person. I'm barely literate, can't tie my shoes, and to be perfectly honest with you, I'm not entirely sure where babies come from.
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RStewie
12/15/09

@BearDownCBears: It might be that I watched it with my parents, but the rape scene scarred me for life... I will NEVER watch a movie with them without knowing something about the content first.

...basically, though, just watch Braveheart, and you'll get the idea. Without the rape.
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BytheSea
12/15/09

@pearlsdream: I went to school in cletus country where they injected a bottle or two into a watermelon and then ate the watermelon and then threw up all weekend.
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greeneyedfem
12/15/09

@token_illiterate_commenter: And CLAUDE RAINS as Prince John! GOD I love me some Claude Rains.

This movie was a staple in our house when I was growing up. That betamax tape got a lot of miles put on it.
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token_illiterate_commenter
12/15/09

@greeneyedfem: Ah, Claude "I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!" Rains. Greatness.
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jenilane
12/15/09

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Robin Hood is supposed to be suave. Crowe is too much of a bruiser for me.
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wealhtheow
12/15/09

@jenilane: Agreed. He's no lithe trickster swinging down from the trees. Hell, I doubt he could *climb* a tree.
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jenilane
12/15/09

@wealhtheow: Seriously, where is this generation's Errol Flynn?
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hortense
12/15/09

@jenilane: Robin Hood seems more like a James McAvoy/Ewan McGregor type to me.
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jenilane
12/15/09

@hortense: Maybe Jude Law? He did play Errol Flynn in "The Aviator."
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Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.
12/15/09

@hortense: JMac FTW.
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BytheSea
12/15/09

@jenilane: Beg to differ, I'm afraid. In the 1200s, if you weren't an arabian mathematician, you weren't getting too far if you couldnt' throw a stone, log, or axe the length of a stout fishing vessel. Courtly love was more of an idea of the king's entertainers to sing about, no one really married anyone who couldn't build them a house.
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jenilane
12/15/09

@BytheSea: Of course, if we're going for historical accuracy (which I guess they are) you are correct. But, I think that the wit and vivacity of the portrayals of Robin Hood throughout history are what makes him special as a character. He hasn't endured so long simply because he kicked ass. He was a gentleman fighting a guerilla war in his own unique style. It seems that Scott misses the point, to me.
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Rooo sez BISH PLZ
12/16/09

@hortense: Oh. Now there you go.
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Our Lady of the Massacre
12/15/09

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Let's see...generic hard rock soundtrack? Check. 300-esque slow-mo editing? Check? "Historical grungy" feel? Check. Female character being threatened sexually? Check and double check!
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lafleur
12/15/09

@Our Lady of the Massacre: But they had me at chainmail.
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Twizzgirl
12/15/09

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I'm sorry Ridley Scott but you are too late. My favorite Robin Hood movies have already been made. Between Kevin Costner's Robin Hood and Cary Elwes' Robin Hood I'm all set.

Also...I've already seen Gladiator thanks.
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GrummoreGrummersom
12/15/09

@Twizzgirl: As much as I hate Kevin Costner as Robin Hood, Alan Rickman's completely over-the-top and wonderful Sheriff has ruined all others for me.
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Diziet_Sma
12/15/09

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Uh-oh. This is obviously going to be rubbish. Shame.
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pond-side-over
12/15/09

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I don't care what anyone says it's still going to have to go a way to top that classy ol' Errol Flynn.
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token_illiterate_commenter
12/15/09

@pond-side-over: This is the Robin that you're looking for.
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katetastic
12/15/09

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I just checked out the IMDB page for this and noticed that Scott Grimes (from Party of Five) is playing Will Scarlett.
I sure hope that he can do a better accent than Christian Slater.
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Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.
12/15/09

@katetastic: That movie was the first time I ever heard the phrase "Full of piss and vinegar." I loved Christian Slater forever because of that movie.
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