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Rick Santorum Knows What African-American Women Really Need

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Glitterbug (likes life shaken, not stirred)
06/03/09

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My boyfriend thinks a really romantic date is a night at the local pub, when the football's on. As someone who detests team sports in every shape or form, I'd JUMP at the chance to be taken by helicopter to Broadway every once in a while!
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Little Green Frog (Wise Latina)
06/03/09

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Regarding that visit of Obama to the Middle East, did you guys see Romney this morning on the Today show? He basically said that Obama was bending over to the people there and that he should be more macho and should show them who is boss.

OK, I exaggerate but it's pretty close:

[today.msnbc.msn.com]
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Little Green Frog (Wise Latina)
06/03/09

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So, remember yesterday I posted that Chambliss called Sotomayor "that lady". They have not posted the interview on www.wabe.org!!! (I'm calling shenanigans/GOP conspiracy).

My friend said that he was on TV again today on NBC/Today and he called "this lady" again.

I googled him, and it turns out he called Palin a "dymanic lady", so there is a pattern here.

Given that he is MY Senator, I am going to write a letter saying that I find it offensive he talks like that when he talks about women.

I need YOUR help guys. Can you tell me what I should write? I want to make my point but not to go down to his level. No profanity either.
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ellaesther
06/03/09

@Little Green Frog: I'll PM you something!
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gangey
06/03/09

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Anyone else get the feeling that Republicans are going on about the expense of the NY date because they are totally desperate to draw attention away from the fact that our Democratic President is an excellent example of the Family Values they (the Repubs) have insisted for so long they alone possess?
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Devonna
06/03/09

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If the government started to tax health care benefits, I (and the 4999 other people in my corporation)would be so screwed. I hope there is another way to help the uninsured portion of the population that can skip this.
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Little Green Frog (Wise Latina)
06/03/09

@Devonna: OOOOOOOMG, if he taxes those benefits I am going to be SOOOO pissed. I've defended Obama enough (libing in a RED state), but I don't think I could after that.
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Lymed
06/03/09

@Devonna: Health benefits will not be taxed unless it is part of an overall health reform package that shifts the majority of health benefits away from being employer-based. Congress can't afford to pass something that would increase the number of uninsured, which this would do.
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morninggloria
06/03/09

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Man, I had a good streak of not thinking about Sarah Palin going until I read this.
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pond-side-over
06/03/09

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Mrs Santorum's daily life must be simply bursting with romance.
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MissyMcCLung
06/03/09

@pond-side-over: Oh no, he's white. It's ok for WHITE people to go out to fancy places, just not those black folks.

fuck I hate Santorum.
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hkcd
06/03/09

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If, by some terrible twist in the universe, Newt Gingrich was even chosen as a presidential candidate, my dad would probably quit this bitch. When I was a kid Newt Gingrich was the basically the worst curse-word you could say in my house.
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SunburnedCounsel
06/03/09

@hkcd: in my house it was Ian Paisley, then Jesse Helms.
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lilbobbytables
06/03/09

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And, with Tim Pawlenty announcing he won't seek a third term as governor of Minnesota, you have to wonder how far up Senator Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's ass he plans to crawl after the Minnesota Supreme Court rules that Norm Coleman still isn't the Senator.

It sounds like he is looking at a White House run. Well, that, and fleeing my hotdishes of bitter HATE that he inspires me to make.
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NefariousNewt
06/03/09

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I think he has to realize that flying to New York is self-indulgent. Go down to the corner bar and have a drink, a shot and a beer. It does not matter where you go with your wife, is that it's with your wife. That's really the point... I would make the argument, the simpler the date, the more normal it is.

Yeah, I can see the President and First Lady knocking down shots in a bar...
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deitybox
06/03/09

@NefariousNewt: Can we just take a minute to acknowledge, though, that that would be awesome??
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NefariousNewt
06/03/09

@deitybox: Yeah, that would be awesome.
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PaintedTrollop
06/03/09

@NefariousNewt:

What a lucky, lucky girl Mrs. Santorum is!
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Lymed
06/03/09

@deitybox: It would be particularly awesome if I was sitting next to them at the bar.
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Glitterbug (likes life shaken, not stirred)
06/03/09

@NefariousNewt: Well, if they're not going to use them, I'll take the helicopter and Broadway tickets...
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JinxyMcDeath
06/03/09

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I like how people (read: People who didn't vote for Obama) are upset about the President taking his wife on a date to NYC. Something that quite frankly, a lot of couples in the metropolitan NYC area do (I recall my parents doing this and having a babysitter - and we were regular middle class). Now, everyone with an ounce of a brain knows that the President can't just drive a Prius to NYC alone and have a quiet meal at the Times Square Olive Garden. So, obviously the people who are upset (read: the people who lost the election) want the President and his wife to be held hostage in their big Mansion for the next 4 years...despite the fact that our last President (read: the one that those people voted for) went 2,000 miles away to Texas to fuck around for 1/3 of his presidency.

And Scene.
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deitybox
06/03/09

@JinxyMcDeath: Yeah, I think DailyKos something estimated that Bush spent a total of $17 million on trips to Crawford throughout the eight years. But dinner and a show for the Obamas? Shameless extravagance!!
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morninggloria
06/03/09

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I don't trust public opinion polls, as I think that they must skew toward the grumpy and bitter old incontinent man sitting at home watching Dateline next to his rotary dial phone demographic.
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GayRobotsRUS
06/03/09

@morninggloria: I think you're quite right there - aren't most "official" polls conducted on those with landlines? Which means they're missing the young, the technically savvy, the not-yet-tied down. A large majority of the liberal demographic.
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HarpMadness
06/03/09

@GayRobotsRUS: And it's also SO about how the question is phrased, although in this instance, I'm having trouble envisioning a question where I would respond "yes"...
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Lymed
06/03/09

@GayRobotsRUS: Some polling companies are better than others at adjusting for this. But basically, until they figure out how to reach us on our cell phones, they only reach people who are at home and have a land line.
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PrarieMuffin
06/03/09

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Are you fucking kidding me, Obama? Don't do this; don't be that guy who campaigns on one set of principals and acts on another once he's in power. I know that paying for all of your policy initiatives is going to be tough, but there are a lot of other places you could start that don't hit the lower- and middle-class directly where it hurts. You could even consider, I don't know, ending one of the two wars we're in right now. Might save a few bucks.
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TheJacqueline ValJean
06/03/09

@PrarieMuffin: Pretty much all politicians end up being 'that guy', regardless of what they campaigned on.
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PrarieMuffin
06/03/09

@TheJacqueline ValJean: B-b-but hope! Change! He made me believe!
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Evie Havok
06/03/09

@PrarieMuffin: You just described what all politicians do. Hey, he wanted to win and thought that what he said was what everyone wanted to hear. He won and now he's going to do what is more convenient in his position.
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morninggloria
06/03/09

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I'd love to hear Rick Santorum's thoughts on what limits other women need, based solely on their race and the race of their male paramours. I'd be willing to bet they're something like this:

Biracial man, black lady- A couple of cans of PBR at a local dive, a moratorium on fancy fake nails.

Black man, black lady- One way tickets to Africa.

White man, black lady- Felony charges for crossing racial lines

White man, asian lady- Jokes about Vietnam

Asian man, white lady- lots of money, because he's probably a doctor

Latino man, black lady- A highway built to separate their neighborhood from the neighborhoods of the white people

Latino man, latina woman- English lessons. AMIRITE!?

White man, white lady- fancy diamond ring, a house, sperm, Jesus
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tonightineed is actually Mrs. Ziegler-Spock
06/03/09

@morninggloria: I love any sentence that has Jesus and Sperm in it together.
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Remedios Varo can't see no huevos.
06/03/09

@morninggloria: You forgot about the Homosexuals, but they all need the same thing, right? I'm referring to Jesus.
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emilyanne
06/03/09

@morninggloria: That's my COTD, I don't care what else happens, brilliant.
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morninggloria
06/03/09

@Remedios Varo can't see no huevos.: The homosexuals just need Jesus or one of His messengers to explain to them the miracle of opposite love.
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Laulau
06/03/09

@morninggloria: Also, ask him about any two women (leading roles in a porn flick), or any two men (jail time).
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PreposterousHypothesis
06/03/09

@morninggloria: This has my COTD vote. At this relatively early hour. :)
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tonightineed is actually Mrs. Ziegler-Spock
06/03/09

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Again, I would like to ask everyone who thinks torture is justified: Do you support the torture of American citizens and/or soldiers under any circumstances? Do you believe these actions to, in any case, be justified?

If the answer is no, kindly wander away from your failed logic.
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RisaPlata
06/03/09

@tonightineed is actually Mrs. Ziegler-Spock: One of my more religious cousins started spouting off about how "torture works!" and I asked him what someone would have to do to get him to say that there's no god. I'm not entirely certain that he really got it, but it gave him a chance to talk some more about how much he loves Jesus, and he likes that.
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Slovenly Muse
06/03/09

@RisaPlata: I hate that the debate has become whether or not torture works. Saying it's effective, so we should do it is missing the point in a huge way. Rachel Maddow said it best. If we argue that waterboarding prisoners is justified because it gets them to talk, then where do we draw the line? Why not maim them, or rape them, or kill their children in front of them? If it gets them to talk, why not do it? Don't you love your country enough to do whatever's necessary to protect it?

It's not only a flimsy defense, it's a pretty scary slippery slope.
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RisaPlata
06/03/09

@Slovenly Muse: While this argument is better, it's also much harder. I think that part of the reason why more people are accepting torture now is because it's been proven that we're doing it, so they feel they have to say it's okay so we're not doing bad things. Saying that we shouldn't torture because it doesn't work gives us an out on the fact that we DID torture, because hey, it was an experiment, and now we know better. Saying we shouldn't torture because it's just wrong puts the onus on us for having done something bad, and a lot of people can't deal with that. In the grand scheme of things, it is a better argument, but I don't think enough people can accept it.
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