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    Precious Is Heartbreaking, Hopeful

    Amelia: "The Whole Movie Is A Failure To Communicate"

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    Image of Rooo sez BISH PLZ Rooo sez BISH PLZ
    11/06/09

    In reply to Precious Is Heartbreaking, Hopeful
    Yeah, but "A Beautiful Mind" and "American Beauty" took home Oscars, right?
    *eyeroll*

    The last couple of movies about which I remember reading this type of rantage about someone's life getting "shoved in our faces" were Thelma & Louise and The Accused. Oh -- and Do the Right Thing.

    I can't imagine any of that is an accident.
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Precious Is Heartbreaking, Hopeful
    Holy shit! I cried watching the trailer! #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Precious Is Heartbreaking, Hopeful
    That review makes me wish I subscribed to Rolling Stones.

    What the heck does "Precious' cavernous inner world" mean? How is an inner world cavernous? #preciousreviews
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    Image of PilgrimSoul PilgrimSoul
    11/06/09

    @yvanehtnioj: She's fat! Get it? #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @yvanehtnioj: I took that to mean her imagination. #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @Penny: But how is an imagination cavernous? It's big but empty? It's hollow? It echoes? There are bears and bats? None of that matches the movie.

    @PilgrimSoul: I know, that's where I went too. It's either a really obnoxious dig in an otherwise positive review, or a case of a reviewer not knowing what words mean. #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @yvanehtnioj: word nerd here. I think cavernous implies large, deep depths (see cave vs. cavern) which I suppose would emphasize the nature of her hidden world, aka vast and hidden and unexplored, like a cavern. Although maybe I am giving them too much credit. #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @clamme: I'll give you hidden, but I still submit that caverns are defined by the lack of content. They're basically negative space. The first connotations I get are empty, vacant, vast. #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @yvanehtnioj: I haven't seen the movie. In the book, we're in her head the entire time, so I can see it applying in that case. #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @clamme: Maybe "expansive" would have been a better choice. #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @yvanehtnioj: Hmm, I think caverns are defined by being large and unexplored. I don't think it's a bad thing to say that she has a large and unexplored inner life, when it's followed in the review with 'fantasy', 'warmth' and 'beauty'. #preciousreviews
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    Image of yvanehtnioj yvanehtnioj
    11/06/09

    @clamme: Most caverns are explored. That's how they got onto maps. #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @yvanehtnioj: Of course, yes people explore caverns. Do most people? No. They're sort of connoted as unexplored (until we explore them) I'm just saying the connotations. Caverns are unlit, they are mysterious. Anyway we could argue about connotations all day I suppose. Sorry for getting off topic. #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @yvanehtnioj: You haven't been to Carlsbad Caverns I take it. It's a large deep place, with lots of beautiful stuff to look at. And yes, there are some bats as well. #preciousreviews
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    Image of yvanehtnioj yvanehtnioj
    11/06/09

    @circlegirl: I surely have. It's explored, it's mostly negative space (give or take a few stalactites/stalagmites), the pretty things to look at are essentially the walls, and there are more than a few bats. According to the tour I was on, it's the largest bat colony in N. America. Doesn't change my point at all.

    Also I went to the dictionary to look up cavern and cavernous, and while the words vast and hollow made an appearance, nothing about being mysterious or unexplored popped up. #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @yvanehtnioj: Connotations, not definitions. I shouldn't have said 'defined by', I mean 'have connotations of' #preciousreviews
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    yvanehtnioj promoted this comment Edited by clamme at 11/06/09 4:10 PM clamme was starred clamme was unstarred
    Image of yvanehtnioj yvanehtnioj
    11/06/09

    @clamme: I know. You might have noticed that I used the word connotation in this thread in the post you were replying to.

    We just do not agree. And that is okay. #preciousreviews
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    Image of yvanehtnioj yvanehtnioj
    11/06/09

    @yvanehtnioj: But just for kicks, you can get at the connotations of a word by looking at its synonyms. In this case:

    alveolate, broad, chambered, chasmal, commodious, concave, curved inward, deep, deep-set, echoing, gaping, huge, resonant, reverberant, roomy, sepulchral, socketed, spacious, sunken, vast, wide, yawning

    And the only antonym? Filled.

    [thesaurus.reference.com] #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @yvanehtnioj: I was referring to your stating the definition in the dictionary as part of your argument for cavernous. I don't think using synonyms is a good way to get at the connotations or the definition, though.

    Anyway, I was sort of stating my point in stupid little tidbits, because my boss was over my shoulder. (Bosses!) I was trying to convey that 'cavernous' isn't always negative, esp. with the context clues. However, you are right, we disagree and that is okay. Farewell, fellow worder. Farewell. #preciousreviews
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    Image of madeofawesome madeofawesome
    11/06/09

    @clamme: As a fellow word nerd, I don't take cavernous to mean "big," but "grand." "Expansive" wouldn't quite work. It's too bland to describe the richness, the vastness, the grandness. "Vast" also doesn't mean "large." It's got a romantic quality to it. The universe is vast. The starry night is vast.

    So, yes, I agree with you.

    Full disclosure: I'm a writer. Words move me, and synonyms don't always mean exactly the same thing. #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @PilgrimSoul: Jeebus. I wish I didn't.

    Not to speak of how inside every woman there's a yawning maw housing a keening creature who's just ... so violently needy, you know?
    *turns a faint green*

    I think I'm going to start carrying a bucket with me through this film and related review-reading season, so that I'm always prepared. #preciousreviews
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    Image of whynotshesaid whynotshesaid
    11/07/09

    @yvanehtnioj: I thought deep and vast, not necessarily bad things when talking about someone's inner life. #preciousreviews
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    Image of PilgrimSoul PilgrimSoul
    11/06/09

    In reply to Precious Is Heartbreaking, Hopeful
    Fucking Edelstein. Still makes me mad. #preciousreviews
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    Image of Cerridwen Cerridwen
    11/06/09

    @PilgrimSoul: Fuck, I know. "I'm not judging girls who look like Sidibe in life" - except you are, asshole. Sidibe is a real-life woman, she's not some computer-generated cartoon created for this film. #preciousreviews
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    Image of whynotshesaid whynotshesaid
    11/07/09

    @PilgrimSoul: I skipped right over the excerpt. I could not bear to see him refer to that beautiful girl as a zeppelin one more time. #preciousreviews
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    Image of CurtCole CurtCole
    11/06/09

    In reply to Precious Is Heartbreaking, Hopeful
    "New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Atlanta" These select cities are a little too select. I was really hoping it would come to Dallas, hell...I'd drive to Austin to see it. #preciousreviews
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    Image of TubOfTaft TubOfTaft
    11/06/09

    @CurtCole: [www.weareallprecious.com]

    This has a listing of where and when it opens. It opens in Dallas next week. It doesn't open in the Boston area until the week after! #preciousreviews
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    Image of CurtCole CurtCole
    11/06/09

    @TubOfTaft: Thank you! #preciousreviews
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    Image of bluetrain84 bluetrain84
    11/06/09

    @TubOfTaft: When will Boston get on the list of big cities to open a film in? It's always frustrating to me that we have to wait like everybody else. I want to be first, wahhh! #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @bluetrain84: I’m grateful for Kendall Square Cinema. Where else can you watch Zombie Strippers one month and Slumdog Millionaire a few months later on the same screen? #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @bluetrain84: Because ... ah ... Bahstahn is a more ... ah ... intellectual town.
    You don't watch films. You read books.
    *spoken in William F. Buckley cadence* #preciousreviews
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    Image of Lymed Lymed
    11/06/09

    In reply to Precious Is Heartbreaking, Hopeful
    My complaint is that the commercials are about Oprah. I don't want to see this film because Oprah loved it. I want to see it because Push is an incredible book and it speaks volumes about the evil and the strength of humanity. #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @Lymed: Eh, the "Oprah's Book Club" label has gotten more middle-of-the-road people to buy books that otherwise wouldn't have. Middle-aged women are moved by Oprah in ways that few other people motivate them. #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @voteforme: Can't they somehow put the Oprah label on without showing Oprah talk about how moved she was? I'm sure it will get people to see the film, but it bothers me. I guess it bothers me that they probably focus grouped trailers and found that people would not see the movie based on a traditional trailer. #preciousreviews
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    Image of Penny Penny
    11/06/09

    @Lymed: The Oprah shit bugs me too, but they also want to make money. I am sure she's more concerned with motivating the masses to see it, though. In the end, at least she promotes decent stuff. #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @Penny: I've found some of my favorite books where her book club picks. I even read some classics because she brought them back to a new printing via her book club. But as I said in reply to voteforme, perhaps I'm more upset that this is what many people need to go out and see this film. #preciousreviews
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    Image of DannyOcean DannyOcean
    11/06/09

    @Lymed: Think of it as a necessary evil. I think many would agree that the more people who see this movie the better. Oprah helps, and she especially helps get people who would NEVER have watched this type of movie otherwise. It's not perfect, but it's better than the movie being ignored by the mainstream Oprah crowd #preciousreviews
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    Image of thatgirlinnewyork thatgirlinnewyork
    11/06/09

    @Lymed: amen, sister. i usually ignore the things labeled "oprah approved". #preciousreviews
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    Image of Penny Penny
    11/06/09

    In reply to Precious Is Heartbreaking, Hopeful
    Wow. Edelstein's review sounds especially douchey when thrown into the middle of his thoughtful and competent peers. #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @Penny: You want a douchey review? Read this steaming pile of poop from Armond White. And prepare for the shower you'll need afterward.

    [nypress.com] #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @growler: You know, I find that review interesting. I'm not sure I agree with all of it and have to think about it, but something like this: "It sells materialist fantasy as a universal motivation—no wonder Perry and Winfrey like it." Well, this is what someone what Edelstein was reaching for, but he got distracted by her "squashed eyes" and we were off to the races. #preciousreviews
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    Image of Zombie Ms. Skittles Zombie Ms. Skittles
    11/06/09

    @growler: He can't be serious. Marci X, Norbit and Mr. 3000 as "excellent films with black themes?"
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    Image of PilgrimSoul PilgrimSoul
    11/06/09

    @Zombie Ms. Skittles: Yes, eventually I realized her also included Norbit and Little Man in that category. mea culpa. #preciousreviews
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    Image of JP Meyer JP Meyer
    11/06/09

    @Zombie Ms. Skittles: Little Man and Norbit! #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Precious Is Heartbreaking, Hopeful
    I'm excited to see this movie but I might wait until it comes out on DVD for fear that I might burst into laughter because I cannot separate Mariah Carey with Glitter. Regardless, I'm really glad that this movie will probably prove some (*ahem* Edelstein) critics wrong and shine some light on pressing/difficult topics. #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    In reply to Precious Is Heartbreaking, Hopeful
    Love Lee Daniel's description of himself: a little Afro, a little homo, and a little Euro. #preciousreviews
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    11/06/09

    @hello.kitty: Afromoeuro? #preciousreviews
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    Image of hortense hortense
    10/23/09

    In reply to Amelia: "The Whole Movie Is A Failure To Communicate"
    Oh, this is so disappointing! I was really looking forward to this. #ameliareviews
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    10/23/09

    In reply to Amelia: "The Whole Movie Is A Failure To Communicate"
    OK. Another real-life female hero shot to hell by a crappy movie.

    But if they mess up a movie on the life of Marie Curie?? A whole lotta ass-whippin' is gonna come down.

    Do NOT mess with Madame Curie, Hollywood. You're on notice. #ameliareviews
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    10/23/09

    @valhalla_i_am_coming: Do you come from the land of the ice and snow? #ameliareviews
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    10/23/09

    @Diziet_Sma: *lol* I come from the land of Viking kitties:

    [users.wolfcrews.com]

    always, always cracks me up. #ameliareviews
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    Image of Diziet_Sma Diziet_Sma
    10/23/09

    @valhalla_i_am_coming: EXCELLENT! I remember this from years ago, and then it got taken down - presumably because The Zep threatened legals. Thanks for the link! Oh, and awesome avatar-name, obvs. Robert Plant can be my overlord any day. #ameliareviews
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    10/23/09

    In reply to Amelia: "The Whole Movie Is A Failure To Communicate"
    Not surprised - the trailer looks dull dull dull. How can you fuck up the dialogue so badly, when you have real words like this as a starting point:

    "You must know again my reluctance to marry, my feeling that I shatter thereby chances in work which means so much to me. . . . In our life together I shall not hold you to any medieval code of faithfulness to me, nor shall I consider myself bound to you similarly. . . . I may have to keep some place where I can go to be myself now and then, for I cannot guarantee to endure at all the confinements of even an attractive cage."
    - From a letter Earhart gave to Putnam on their wedding day.

    This was in 1931. Think about it - how awesome is that? What an extraordinary character. #ameliareviews
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    10/23/09

    In reply to Amelia: "The Whole Movie Is A Failure To Communicate"
    First "The Golden Age", then "The Duchess", and now this.

    Why are biopics about women always about the men they sleep with, not their awesome queenly/political/aviating adventures? #ameliareviews
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    10/23/09

    In reply to Amelia: "The Whole Movie Is A Failure To Communicate"
    I'm sad about this because I love Mira Nair so much as a filmmaker. I was really hoping she'd have a critical hit with this. Just from the previews, it does seem like a very by the numbers movie.

    I highly recommend Monsoon Wedding and The Namesake. Vanity Fair looked beautiful, but the script was awful. Sounds like that's what happened with Amelia.

    And if you are going to have Ewan McGregor in your movie playing a paramour, put him in a steamy love scene, damnit! That is filmmaking 101. #ameliareviews
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    sybann promoted this comment Rosie's Revenge was starred Rosie's Revenge was unstarred
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    10/23/09

    @Rosie's Revenge: I loved both and even suffered Vanity Fair because it was SO gorgeous. #ameliareviews
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    Image of jigglyball jigglyball
    10/23/09

    In reply to Amelia: "The Whole Movie Is A Failure To Communicate"
    Aviatrix? Really? In the movie Variety saw, was Ms. Earhart wearing a Prada pencil skirt and stillettos during her transatlantic flights?

    I guess my trusty travel socks would render me a mere travelista. #ameliareviews
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    Image of HannahBethD HannahBethD
    10/23/09

    @jigglyball: In latin, words ending in -or are give -trix to make them feminine. #ameliareviews
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    10/23/09

    @HannahBethD: I know, and I'm sure it was intended that way. But so often, pop writers go out of their way to label women with some combination of power and sex appreal a "-trix," which is more reference to dominatrix than to good Latin. #ameliareviews
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    10/23/09

    @jigglyball: Yeah, I'm sure that was most likely the intent, but I cling ever so tightly in my faith in good grammar over misogyny. #ameliareviews
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